Things have gotten better and progress has been made from times past, it just seems worse now because we have more access to information. We’ve come far, and have further to go!

  • Queen HawlSera
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    32 years ago

    I think that things are going to be okay as long as we allow them to be okay

  • ShaunaTheDead
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    92 years ago

    It really is easy to lose track of how far we’ve come until we look back. Thanks for this!

    • @[email protected]OP
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      272 years ago

      Yep, and now there’s not a deluge of dead children dragging the average down, which is objectively pretty great

    • JackbyDev
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      112 years ago

      Look, I feel like “children dead before 10” is a pretty upsetting and relevant statistic.

      • @[email protected]
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        2 years ago

        I have noticed lately people on the Internet starting sentences more with “Look.” Is it just me or is this becoming more of a trend? (Not trying to judge or anything, just wondering if I am going crazy)

        • JackbyDev
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          12 years ago

          I feel like you’re just excited to share a fact about a common misconception rather than actually paying attention to what’s being said. Infant mortality is still a bad thing. While it’s true folks lived about as long less infant mortality is still a net improvement.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            I’m paying attention. I feel like you just want to point out that it’s a common misconception rather than engage with the fact that dying at 51 is very different from child mortality.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Yeah if I had to choose how to bump up the life expectancy, reducing child mortality would definitely be my first choice.

      • @[email protected]
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        02 years ago

        Yeah, in particular the “average age of death” might be 51 if the average includes a lot of people who died as children. OTOH, the average person dying at 51 is fundamentally different in how you think of it.

        • @[email protected]
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          Life expectancy at, is used by academics when relevant. Average at birth, adulthood and even once they’re over the hill have utility. Like identifying outliers.

          Regardless, the average person is going to use average as a nebulas concept occasionally informed by science but hearsay and superstition on an average day.

  • @[email protected]
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    122 years ago

    It’s not like we don’t still have problems to fix, but always only focusing on them doesn’t show just how far we’ve come.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      The real problem with ignoring progress we’ve made is that it gives the false impression that what we’re doing is worthless, leading to demands to tear down everything we’re doing.

      People are constantly clamoring to replace our systems with new ones “that actually work”. This is a result of being blind to the ways our current system works.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          I’m not arguing for good enough. You’re framing this as a false dichotomy between completely ignoring all the accomplishments of past generations and all the valuable aspects of our current system, and completely giving up.

          What we can do is decide to recognize that parts of our current system work really well, and stop always talking about trying to uproot what we have and replace it.

    • BolexForSoup
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      2 years ago

      The problem is that the line between “we’ve come a long way” and it’s corollary “therefore why are you upset/why do we have to address [insert issue]?” is razor thin.

      Celebrating success is great. Using it as a cudgel to stop further success is not.

  • @[email protected]
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    92 years ago

    Im as cynical as they come and I want to see more posts like this.

    I still have an urge to be cynical, but less so.

  • @[email protected]
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    222 years ago

    Refreshing to see this instead of the usual screeching here on lemmy. I really need to stop looking at 99% of this bullshit on here.

    Atleast for 2 minutes I believed the average quality of content will not go to the shitter like reddit.

    • BolexForSoup
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      2 years ago

      What’s the 99% of this site that is bs to you? And why are you hanging around if it’s that terrible? Genuinely asking.

      • @[email protected]
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        2 years ago

        99% of lemmy is: bashing and memeing rich, companies, conservatives. Posting outrage and celeb articles. Honestly these issues are not even on my mind a fraction as much as it is for most guys here.

        Im mainly hanging around for my preferred topics to reach a critical level so that it will be enjoyable.

        As of right now, even main lemmy sites like technology is not even about technology but this bullshit “how Musk fucked over twitter at this moment”. And look at that. Wasnt this trend taken 1:1 from reddit. I cant clean up properly because this spam keeps leaking into my feed. I cant subscribe to my only preferred communities as they are too small.

        • @[email protected]
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          172 years ago

          … So it’s a lefty/progressive space and you don’t like it, so you claim that the platform is derangedor some shit.

          What do you think would happen on a platform where most people are just fed up with late-stage capitalist enshittification?

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            I grant you the being left/progressive part, but I never said a word about that being an issue did I. I am heavily left leaning if you want to put a badge on it, but I have nothing to do with character assasination attempts and bashing certain people all day. That is just shitty conduct. Celeb news level of bullshittery.

            • @[email protected]
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              82 years ago

              I never encountered any character assassination attempts. At least not on the memes community (where you commented, after all).

              As I said: people being fed up with late stage capitalism is a valid reason for class conscious comedy.

          • @[email protected]
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            2 years ago

            Does a site like that have proper communities for things like spirituality, Zen, audio equipment and drugs?

            I think its pretty self explanatory that we are already in an echo chamber since I never fucking said anything about what my political beliefs are. The current lemmy community is kind of okay to keep up with the events in the world, but still dogshit. And I want to look at the conservative bullshittery even less.

            I have high standards.

            • @[email protected]
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              42 years ago

              I never fucking said anything about what my political beliefs are

              Lol you absolutely didn’t have to

              • @[email protected]
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                22 years ago

                Nonsense. Don’t read something that was never said. Really simple. If you need to bring it up, formulate a passive, neutral question.

              • @[email protected]
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                52 years ago

                That never worked out for me. People feel attacked regardless. They might not comment (in any meaningful way) as they have no way of reflecting on my argument, but they still downvote.

          • JackbyDev
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            22 years ago

            Truth Social is technically a Mastodon instance! lol

  • @[email protected]
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    182 years ago

    The extreme poverty one is laughable especially when criteria to define extreme poverty is ridiculous. Extreme poverty in places where you earn less than $1.90 but can still have subsistence farming and community doesn’t make sense - also if living in San Francisco and earning $2/day isn’t extreme poverty… I don’t know what is.

    Poverty shouldn’t be tied to capital but to standards of living - that would be a completely different story.

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    1102 years ago

    the last two are easily debunked. I hate shit like this because it reinforces an idea that time = progress. There are influential and powerful people alive today who would reverse any of these trends if it meant money in their pocket.

    • oce 🐆
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      It’s not about time = progress, it’s about showing that there was progress even if feels like we’re in a shitty downward phase currently. I don’t validate the numbers, just the intention.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        It’s fair to want to be optimistic and to want to fight against doomerism. I think OP was misguided at best.

        To be fair, I don’t think I was as clear as I could have been either. It’s just that post just has smells of neoliberalism has fixed the world propaganda. These are the same kinda statistics they use to justify an immoral and unethical economic system. I think a lot of people agree and get slightly triggered seeing these same untrustworthy statistics paraded around.

  • terwn43lp
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    92 years ago
    1. humans are an invasive & overpopulated species

    2. people can read but still choose to be ignorant

    3. Americans working til their 60s is sad

    4. Because of the rising population, there are more homeless people than ever before