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why is this so hard to understand
It’s likely not financially viable to have separate teams for their many products that all have similar features. Consolidating makes more sense because they can actually afford to maintain development.
Honestly, they should just roll YouTube Music into the default YouTube app, as well. And they probably will at some point. It just doesn’t make sense to have these services - which are basically all the same, functionally-speaking - spread out across multiple apps.
Honestly, they should just roll YouTube Music into the default YouTube app, as well.
I don’t think I could disagree more. I use both and listening to music and watching videos are entirely different activities for me and I want the apps to do different things in different ways.
It’s likely not financially viable to have separate teams for their many products that all have similar features.
Clearly Google doesn’t follow that logic because they have numerous competing chat apps. Even Google Maps has chat…
The UI and use case for a video platform and a music app are very, very different
My phone makes phone calls and browses the Internet. There are things that can do multiple things.
The use case is not different. There is already music on YouTube. I rarely watch YouTube but I listen to it a lot. You’re not actually upset about the new app, you’re excited to shit on a company with harmful practices and you’re grasping at any argument you can find.
No, I use both YouTube and YouTube music and they need different UIs and ways of navigating. While you could cram all of YouTube musics UI into a subsection of YouTube, it really doesn’t make sense to do so. I’m not just shitting on Google just because, I’m saying that the needs of music listening and YouTube video watching are different for many people.
Honestly sounds like you don’t even need youtube, just YouTube music if all you ever use it for is listening.
They “need” different UIs? Really you’ve never used an app or device that can do 2 things?
Come on, that’s obviously a silly opinion. You’re just grasping at straws and I don’t really understand why.
Just use AntennaPod. You don’t need Google spyware to listen to podcasts.
It’s so wild that Google would rather weaken their own brand than just keep a secondary frontend around. It would require minimal maintenance cost (given the size of their company, just have 1-2 fulltime devs working on keeping it in shape and updated), and it could access the exact same backend as the Youtube Music app.
Weird.
And don’t misunderstand me, I really don’t like Google Podcasts for podcasts, but I also admit that having a separate app for podcasts is superior, as you listen to them very differently than you listen to music. Spotify amiably shows how their recommendation algorithms absolutely cannot handle someone listening to both, anyways.
I actually don’t think it’s a bad decision. I think merging it with YouTube is a good thing. They could integrate tightly with YouTube since they already added a “podcast” feature and you could seemlessly switch between Video and Audio.
Sooner or later I expected that to happen.
But to a user, what would the benefit be? Would the UI also change depending on content played to expose the controls specialized for each type of media?
It combined two apps I already use. The UI of YTM is better than the podcast app anyways. Not a crazy huge benefit, but there’s no detractor for me because I already use YTM heavily.
You could listen to an epsiode on YouTube then pause and listen to it on YouTube music.
Would the UI also change depending on content played to expose the controls specialized for each type of media?
They already kinda do that on YouTube (with YouTube premium). When you watch a music video, you have music controls in the normal YouTube app and a button to switch to YouTube music
Tbh, they should rather make a new app called "YouTube Podcasts)
They probably want to monetize on podcasts too, in the same way they do on videos and music. At the moment, Google Podcast is completely free and ad-free.
Goad I never jumped onboard.
Podcast Addict for the win
In my case Pocket Casts, but yes.
Before you get used to YTM and they drop that too, just use AntennaPod
Before you get used to YTM and they drop that too,
Sure they will integrate YTM into YT, using just a tab to switch.
They already do this on my google TV. The YTM app just opens YT with a music tab. Won’t be long before the mobile apps follow.
Awww for fuck’s sake. Why do they always cancel the good apps???
Google podcast is an awful app (also it was pretty expected that they will kill Google podcasts and replace it with YouTube music since that was hinted in the last few years)
That’s your opinion. I really like that app.
Why? There are so many better podcast player out there
Such as?
edit: nvm the next comment string answered my question
Hopefully it will be better for when it comes to Android Auto, as GPM is my go to in the car.
That’s just the Google way… still didn’t get over the RSS reader disaster… Anyways, I tried the app a couple of times: it’s not a great app for listening to podcasts. If you like podcasts, try Antennapod, Pocket Casts or Podcast Addict (and please stay away from Spotify).
In the end: good riddance.
Why did you say “stay away from Spotify”?
Because Spotify uses (not their own) podcasts to generate revenue, but doesn’t pay the creators.
Source: trust me bro
Also, there is this wonderful specialty toy, I think it is called Google. You can search for things and find answers to urgent questions, all by yourself.
So it actually does pay the creators.
It pays the creator if the creator offers pay to view content. So technically, it takes money from the creator’s subscribers.
You might actually hear a podcast host say that if you listen to enough podcasts. I have heard it in the Bits und so podcast, directly from the host.
Also, Spotify bought their own studio (Gimlet), for that they are obviously paying the creators.
Every podcast does that.
Also they host many podcasts and have their own advertising service which can insert ads dynamic ads into the podcast from which the Podcaster is profiting too
AntennaPod is the best.
Hell yeah, AntennaPod is so good. It’s better better than most paid and ad supported alternatives I’ve tried and the best part it’s FOSS.
Antennapod + Gpoddersync FTW
I never found a single use for RSS because I always found myself just going to the site anyway to read the full thing because 99.999999999% of RSS feeds are trash and it’s easier to just page through the site itself anyway. Podcasts… it feels like a massive waste of time listening to someone discussing something, usually poorly, with tons of exposition, diversions, and other BS. I’d rather just read something instead.
Good riddance to both.
One use for RSS feeds is to distribute podcasts to multiple apps. I believe most podcasts apps are just RSS readers combined with an audio player.
Using IFTTT to send starred RSS items to pocket is really useful even still!
I use RSS to help decide if an item is worth reading or not based on the title
Oh boy, can’t wait for Youtube Mail and Youtube Maps next
Let’s just rename Google to Youtube and get it over with
I wish this were more implausible, but at this point I’m getting worried.
Seriously. Fewer and fewer people are using Google as a search engine anyways. I know it’s miniscule, but people are aware of Duck Duck go, and aware of Google’s spy apparatus, hence why in any survey or poll they conduct they ask the user’s opinion on how well they think Google is doing with their private data. I always score them the lowest possible.
What we should be concerned with is how many websites and third party logins use Google.
it’ll all end with YouTube Search
Youtube is basically their entertainment brand. So that really doesn’t make sense.
People are just resistant to change because the GPM to YTM transition sucked when they released a half baked app
Yeah I guess so. YTM sucked ass when it came out. But now I would say it’s better than Spotify.
2 of the original big 4 for us podcast folks down! Stitcher what? A month ago?
Stitcher died?? I hadn’t even heard that news.
Yeah like 1-2mo ago. Very recent
It is both funny and sad that Google has more or less trained me to never use their apps.
At this point, I purposefully don’t use them because I assume they’ll soon be cancelled.
About two weeks ago I thought about this in regards to google podcasts.
“Well this one will probably stick around long enough that I’ll have moved on by the time google shuts it down. They don’t even host the episodes anyway. They source the metadata and audio files from elsewhere. All they really host is my listening history, queue, and subscriptions. Certainly this is less likely to get the axe anytime soon.”
*two weeks later*
It really does suck though. I genuinely like the google podcasts app/website. Best one I’ve found so far that works how I like my apps/services to work.
Man I recently switched from podcast addict after years because podcast addict put an annoying nag about permissions changes in Android, plus I always had issues with the playlist/queuing. Guess I’ll go back to it soon
I have never used it. Always used Podcast Addict for podcasts. Spotify made it all clunky
At least from everything I’ve read they’ve thought about migration and will actually let you use RSS, I was worried they weren’t going to add that functionality to youtube music
Man they really want me to switch to Spotify
Use Antennapod instead
Spotify sucks, but it doesn’t suck as bad as YouTube music does. I lost a few tracks in the conversion but it works so much better that it was worth it.
I ended up hitting YTM, then Spotify, then settled on Tidal after Google Play Music shut down. Nothing beats what GPM had
This sucks. I use it a lot. I picked it over other apps for a reason. Don’t make me change my habits!
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaame.
