Old.reddit.com, ublock, VPN. Good luck, spez.
Until they kill old.reddit
I think there was some reasoning that this would be a long way off due to technical reasons, but still, until then.
Given that spez went full Elon and negated years of precident with the API, I wouldn’t be surprised if he started unplugging random servers to see if Reddit still worked
You’re exaggerating a little bit. Reddit is more alive than alive.
Need to replace the star with a clown, but I guess it already has a clown nose lol
What happened this time?
Have they implemented it yet? This is literary against EU law
The subtitle of the article literally says some countries are exempt and in the article the author said they are waiting for confirmation that the EU is exempt.
It appears I suffered from “being a dumb dumb and only reading the headline” syndrome
I think it’s for the US.
Oh.
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Yes, it was 2 days ago. What happened? I don’t care enough about reddit to open it and find out myself.
Wait, I am dumb, somehow I though it’s already November…
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All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I saw one that said they would stay until Reddit charges a fee to use the site…like why are they staying??? JUST FUCKING LEAVE
One even said “there are no viable alternatives” when talking about Reddit, like excuse me what the fuck?
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering… Leaving
Reminds me of people who keep voting for politicians they supposedly can’t stand.
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I think because they are uninformed. They are looking for alternatives, and don’t know about Lemmy, or don’t understand Lemmy, etc.
Unfortunately, to understand lemmy is to be on lemmy. You have to be here and experience it.
They have to make that leap of faith. There’s nothing to lose anyway, there’s no requirement to delete reddit to become a lemmy user. So what’s holding them back. Mauve they believe the anti lemmy post on reddit or maybe they just say they want to leave reddit but has no real desire to follow through.
But… what about my 83k karma and 13 year badge!
Gamification is a powerful addictive force.
When Reddit locked down their API and Boost stopped working, I forced myself to do casual browsing on chrome on my phone. It was clunky enough that I didn’t bother replying to comments, and navigation is a bit of a pain on mobile, and that was enough to ruin the game.
What a shame. Imagine if all those users were aware about the Fediverse
It’s exactly this, I only found lemmy through a sticky comment inside a post 2 days ago, and I’ve been wanting to get off Reddit for months
Loki it might help if the special interest boards were more active, also the porn is way more well hidden here than it is on Reddit.
Wait, there’s porn here??
You haven’t encountered them on your front page yet???
Wait you’re getting it on your front page?
How?!? I subscribed to every porn instance I could find and still all I’m getting are politics, programming, and for some reason atheist memes.
I think you should change your default page from All/Local to Subscribed
Just a couple of lame nudes
There are no viable Alternatives because they won’t come here, to the viable alternative. Seriously I would love to be able to go on special interest boards again but unfortunately the crowd is still on Lemmy.
Who’s prostate do I have to massage with a rubber glove in order to get a simple conversation about Dragon Quest going on around here?
They’re used to what they know, and change - even for the better - seems wrong.
I’m a trans woman here, and to be honest change of any kind is so scary that it is unbelievable. Like when I finally got approved for hormone, the prescription stayed at the pharmacy for like 2 or 3 weeks before eventually I decided to call a friend…
I knew that if I went myself I would probably just chicken out or maybe I’d pick them up and just put them aside somewhere, simply because I knew that there would be no going back. I didn’t even want to go back, but the fact that I couldn’t was still scary.
But my friend made me take them right then and there, as anybody would, as he always had a good ability to talk me out of my inhibitions.
It’s been about a decade since then and lemme tell you, life is better on two legs than three.
Hell I had been wanting a Reddit alternative for the longest time because the place was a shit hole from the beginning, but traditional online forums are dead.
It took a Perma ban from the whole site for me to make the switch, it’s going to come sooner or later, it’s a ban happy website it wasn’t even the first time.
Even then I felt like a criminal on the run.
PS: a bunch of right wing trolls have reported my account for threats of violence, simply because I said something about Star Wars that they didn’t like.
I got a permaban, and had to write an appeal letter to get them to look at what I actually posted to realize that there was not even the slightest hint of a threat there.
Ironically the second time was for abusing the report button, something that’s not even listed in their terms of service, because that was easier than actually looking at all of the bigoted things that I reported. I try appealing that too, but never got a response
I’m Trans and had no problems leaving reddit. It’s a cess pool full of bots, trolls and Rupert Murdocks goonies. Reddit would almost never side with the victim of bigotry and even punish the victim for reporting hate speech.
It’s garbage and I been gone for months now. Used that script to change all my posts then went back later and deleted each one manually.
People forget how bad reddit was when we all moved from digg.com. It was bad. It would crash every other day.
Lemmy is far more mature than reddit was during the digg exodus.
👍 100% agrreeeee I was there
I wasn’t an early adopter of Reddit, or Lemmy, but this sort of has the same issues of momentum as web browsers do. It doesn’t matter how they started. Where they are now is the standard, and that’s what you have to build to in order to be a viable replacement. With browsers it’s the capability to serve pretty much any page with all the bells and whistles, with Reddit/Lemmy it’s all the posts, comments, and user base. I think it can happen, but it won’t be easy or fast. I’m not worried, though. I think we can rely on spez to send more users this way until a suitable number of users have joined.
Realest answer here. Truly a reddit moment
There aren’t viable alternatives. We don’t have the active niche (and not so niche) communities reddit does. And even if there was somehow a meaningful mass exodus, these little instances would break like wet toilet paper trying to hold a bowling ball.
I don’t say this to be critical of lemmy. I’m happy here. Just being realistic.
Yeah we don’t need to be like reddit. I’m happy if rss usage becomes stronger . So those niche communities can stay wherever they can thrive but still be reachable through rss.
these people are the same group of people that won’t leave twitter. some people just live to be miserable and complain about things one hundred percent in their control.
it’s insane and i can’t wrap my brain around it.
It seems to be human nature that people are resistant to change, and it appears that are kombat instincts from when we were monkeys that can only be satiated these days by arguing on the internet and complaining.
You’re simply have to find a way to take the soul out of the human and put into something better. unfortunately I don’t know that Souls exist
I’ll probably get hate, but the content just isn’t there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I’d follow on Reddit just weren’t on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it’s just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn’t much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan
PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs
New communities, you’ll just have to yell into the void for a while until people start to yell back.
Ehh, I’ll just wait and check back in a few months or so.
Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times
I always assumed that since both upvote and downvote counters are visible, it won’t be the case. But boy I was wrong. The political/news posts are always a constant shitshow reminiscent of T_D.
yeah that’s honestly what I found as well. once I discovered you can patch RIF to use your own personal api token, I’ve been continuing to use reddit. it’s such a subpar experience compared to what it used to be tho
I’m surprised they let you use your own API token. During the API apocalypse, Spez specifically said that was “not allowed.”
It’s usable for bots and such, I’ve seen reports of some users getting banned for using it in patched clients when detected
I was banned several times. Now i moderate a private subreddit and it’s fine.
Americans confused at what month “27” is
It’s the second marchcember of the year!
Quinvigintember of course.
I just realized that September 7,Oktober 8, November 9 and December 10 is a thing. I feel a bit dumb now. Then I got mad cus it’s screwed up. Was it some Romans squeezing in extra months or something?
I was just reading about this a little while ago. Basically the year used to start with March, and they didn’t have names for January and February since not much happened in winter. Eventually they got named and turned into the first two months.
I love the thought that January and February were so boring they didn’t even get names.
I don’t understand it they go through the same Bumtober as the rest of us
I’m American and confused by what the 2023 day is. YYYYMMDD ftw
ISO8601 all day, every day
This is a reddit or even Twitter level shit comment. Please take your ignorant self back to either of those platforms. The dumb American trope is overused, largely inaccurate, and tired. Steal some new material from someone more witty and try again.
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Different date format: day / month / year; as opposed to the US standard: month / day / year.
Which drives me nuts! The month doesn’t change for 4 whole weeks! Why is it first? I want the info that contains the most variation displayed first so my eyes don’t have to glaze past useless info every time.
It must be tiring at work waiting for the clock to finally strike 00:5pm.
See? Now I dont have to skip the hour when looking for the minutes that constantly change.
Or, as millions of people have done, you could learn to read from right to left.
Now that is what I call optimization.
Then this must be the year 3202 for you.
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Year/month/day is superior when reading full dates, because it’s the least ambiguous. If I only need day and month, I’d rather use month’s full or shortened name (like 27 Sep). Ambiguity is the real enemy here, not any particular order
RFC-3339 gang gang
I scanned through this and my takeaway is that it’s just defining a formal grammar for iso 8601. Did I miss anything important?
True, thats how my laptop displays the date. It never even mentions the month because I see that enough on other sources. I guess I just hate how month first is the default where I live more than anything. It perfectly sums up the subpar optimacy of the USA. Shit could be better, but its just not.
¿And don’t you hate how US punctuation is at the end? ¿If you read an entire sentence, but you don’t even know it is a question until you’re at the end, then how do you know which intonation to use? ¡English is subpar and something should be done about that!
Don’t even get me started on the three languages in a trench coat we call English.
Year-Month-Day is also my go-to for naming files (at least in systems that don’t have file versioning) because it allows Name sort to list things chronologically. Just have every version of the same file have the same name, then append Year-Month-Day to the end.
I work with a lot of bespoke systems that use proprietary files, so file versioning with something like Google Drive or OneDrive goes right out the window. But Year-Month-Day makes it easy to maintain some semblance of organization.
I- I can’t understand. Can you please explain it in pounds, pints, and miles?
I once saw my buddy Miles pound down 27 pints!
I’m gonna need it in stone, pecks, and hands.
Other folks say The 5th of November instead of November 5th
There’s no reason the written sequence needs to follow the verbal sequence.
Obviously, because you’re not even writing 11th/5th/2023
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/16tqihd/settings_updateschanges_to_ad_personalization/
Reddit just decided it was a good idea to REMOVE the option to disable ad personalisation. Good job u/spez. We know what you’re doing.
Neat, so they are monetising your activities on the plattform. Isn’t that great?
Corporate does corporate things.
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I’m surprised you’re surprised that others are surprised… because no one is surprised about this.
For-profit company exploits userbase for profit. More at 11:00.
They’ve always been doing it, they’re just gonna stop hiding it now.
reddit has ads?
Yea, ublock always blocks them on old Reddit. So this technically won’t affect me.
I’m sure old.reddit is on its way out in the near future.
Reddit is ads.
This really doesn’t sound legal.
I was going to ask as well. Doesn’t it like infringe on a law madd by California or the EU or some shit?
I hope spez has good GDPR lawyers!
Time for a new influx. Everyone still on reddit needs to advertise lemmy.
And not join-lemmy.org, that’s confusing. Just pick one of the larger servers like lemm.ee or fedia.io and tell people to browse it and click “Sign Up” if they like it.
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I’d recommend a smaller community to help spread the load. I originally signed up on .world but they were having some growing pains (And a disgruntled idiot ddosing them) so I moved to .ca which helped tremendously.
You need to know the special password for .ca
I’m Canadian anyway, so I have it memorized.
Hello Canadian, I’m maple syrup!
We may be related, I’m 40% maple.
I see! I’m actually 33% polar bear and 66% maple, we may be not so distant cousins!
Is it “sorry”?
„Eh“
Dot see eh?
I went to iusearchlinux.fyi and came back to .world about a week ago. It seems to be doing very well now.
I really disagree. For learning lemmy for average people, big instance is best.
There is a point where people who stick around are likely to make a new “real” account on a different smaller server, after they know what they want to browse.
Basically big instances should be like training wheels.
Yeah tbh this is how I did it and I consider myself tEcH sAvVy - still started with .world because I didn’t know where else to go.
Don’t forget lemmy.fiftyfifty.one , ani.social, programming.dev and lemmynsfw.com
Also Canada and Germany have fairly large servers. Politely promote whatever fits the context and let people know having multiple accounts on different servers is 100% cool 😎
Going to do exactly that soon. Replace all comments and posts.
Oh, okay. I had no idea. I was like “How far do I have to scroll to find out what reddit did this time?”
Wouldn’t affect me anyway, because I use an ad blocker.
It still means they’re selling your info to advertisers
I think this is the removal of the opt out of selling my data to advertisers?
Yup ads and posts on reddit are becoming even more indistinguishable, the “organic community” is just a selling point for marketing because you can embed yourself in it, basically just exploiting their users. The metrics to gauge ad performance is based on things that make the site shitty as well. Reddit, at least the big subs, haven’t been organic in this way for a long time, it’s basically a simulation of an organic online community at this point.
Why are these people still there, do they just stick around on reddit to complain about it?
Because other people are there
Network effects are real
Hating Reddit is the usual Reddit routine, the one you may be rewarded for with Reddit’s updoots.
I think the average person is not willing to take 5 minutes to figure out how Kbin or Lemmy works.
Kbin, at least, for the end user is just as simple as reddit.
Before I left Reddit, I searched for alternatives and saw that people recommended Lemmy or Kbin. But I didn’t know what those things were. I assumed they were just Reddit clones hosted by someone else. I didn’t know that I could create an account on Kbin and interact with other posts in the Fediverse. I didn’t even know what the Fediverse was. So I was stuck with this decision of “do I try Lemmy or Kbin first?”
When I decided to try Lemmy, the first thing you need to do is sign up on an instance. People recommended beehaw.org, but that required filling out an application to join. That seems weird, since I never had to apply to read Reddit. I decided to try another instance (sh.itjust.works) but was worried that I was missing out on what people had recommended about other instances. Maybe I chose the wrong one? Maybe I should make an account on Lemmy.world instead?
It took me a little while to grasp the concept of federation and realize that it made no difference as an end user which instance I chose. I stuck with it, as did everyone reading this, but I think it’s fair to say that the average person has similar barriers to entry. We’ve overcome them, but many, many people will not.
True, the concept of the fediverse is probably what confuses people, it’s never explained clearly. I hope it’s growth helps spread information about it, how it works and why you want it.
The app situation is getting much much better. The website UI is inferior to old reddit or the apps. I know some servers support the old reddit UI but it’s not discoverable. Stuff like expanding images needs to be easier to do instead of clicking a semi-hidden 10px square each picture.
Sync and Boost are great, though I’m still not happy with the iOS apps (I like Avalon and Mlem, but I don’t live either of them, whereas the Android apps feel fantastic).
Boost is lovely and polished and you can see that tons of work has gone into it.
Tell you what though: while I was waiting for Boost, damned if the Voyager (fka wefwef) PWA came out of nowhere with (I think) some of the nicest UX of any of the contenders, plus an insane release schedule because they can just push changes whenever. Voyager is honestly what has kept me here. (…he says, posting from Boost)
you joined early on, you had to work at understanding the fediverse. now there are plenty of places that explain everything.
They should come to Lemmy to complain about Reddit, like the rest of us.
Don’t forget to donate to your chosen instances to keep them going.
Self-hosters donating to themselves
And the Lemmy devs
50-50 shot lemmy devolves into a fascist hellsite
Well, its a federation. So the instances that wish to be associated with such, will be. And the ones that don’t, won’t be. Your language is limited by your concept of a website. Reconsider the concept if you wish and update your language accordingly. It will make your comments more clear.
Lol, I knew this post wasn’t from my home Lemmy. I find that your people’s customs are strange and endearing.
in the scenario I imagine, and am seeing definite signs of, the ‘federation’ will fragment into 2 camps: one that tolerates fascists and one that doesnt, and the one that tolerates them will become a new reddit except this time its not directly run by the FBI/spez etc but has the same bad habits and same bad apples
It’ll become walled gardens. I mean, I’m not that worried easy come easy go in my view, hexbear will continue to truck along whether the lemmiverse falls to fascists or just becomes fractured due to their influence.
can i be in the one without hexbear
Liberals pounding on my door screaming “yes I would like to sit at the nazi table please!”
With the sheer number of @[email protected] liberals that get mad at the existence of people more left than them in federated spaces but go out of their way to “dae both sides” justify the presence of nazis, I’d say the chances are higher than that.
Missing the whole point. Companies will not stop serving ads or selling data. Setup custom dns from somewhere like nextdns or a private pihole computer on your network. It works in windows, can get a micro pc from eBay or Amazon for <$150, then block ANYTHING you don’t like.
I don’t see ads at all anymore at home, in fact it’s jarring when a page takes 2x time to load because of ads and shit.
Get these plugins at bare minimum: Ublock origin Sponsorblock Bitwarden or similar (not LastPass) for strong password management.
Stop crying about companies and take some steps to protect yourself.
Installing uBlock is so easy, it blows my mind when people won’t do it. You set it and forget it, and no more ads. WTF, people.
Why not both. Protecting yourself from shitty behavior is important, but so is calling it out when you see it.
wheres the crying
i don’t know why people act like complaints aren’t valid and useful
If you’re just going to complain, then just stfu and move on. There are a number of fixes that anyone who can follow directions can implement.
If you’re complaining but doing nothing to fix it, you’re wasting your time.
That’s not going to stop Reddit from tracking your interactions with their site if you use it. They will sell your activity to whoever wants it. Updoots, posts read, subscriptions, saves - all potentially valuable data about a potential customer’s interests.
If everyone starts blocking ads, who cares where my “data” goes.
What is wrong with last pass?
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All vault data has been stolen in the past, and while the data is encrypted, apparently the encryption is not strong enough and there are reports that some of the vault has been decrypted by hackers: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/09/experts-fear-crooks-are-cracking-keys-stolen-in-lastpass-breach/
Which you recommend then?
using passwords you can remember instead of An8sdfd8h4indf!id8 just because it’s harder to brute force
Passwords you can remember is a problem if you have multiple sites.
While I love XKCDs HorseBatteryStaplerOkay! strategy… that works well for 4-5 passwords, if you have 20+ passwords you’ll pretty much wind up re-using, and if it turns out one of the 20 sites had garbage protection and gets fully hacked, any sites you used the same is also going to be vulnerable.
Personally still gotta say go with keepass or bitwarden (selfhosted if possible).
It’s not just about the password you can remember it’s being able to patch your securities in case of a hack/malware or attack; Remembering a password is low on my list at that point
If you are worried about people getting ahold of your vault if the company has a breach, then keepass and come up with you own system of syncing the file. It’s a local file so is always under your control.
I have migrated to bitwarden years ago, but still curse myself why I didn’t immediately delete my lastpass account back then before the breach.
Then I shall go to bitwarden
Bitwarden, or vaultwarden if you want to self-host it
I’m interested in vaultwarden, what do you think about self hosting it?
I’ve never tried it, but from what I’ve read it isn’t too difficult; it is something I’d like to eventually get set up. I expect you’d want either a static IP address or a dynamic DNS service to access it remotely.
You can also self-host the main bitwarden implementation, vaultwarden is just generally preferred because it’s much lighter-weight, mostly because it’s written in Rust instead of Typescript
It’s super easy to self host (assuming you’re familiar with docker), doesn’t take too much server resource, and will give you access to features normally gated behind bitwarden subscriptions. Way better then the official self-hosted version. The main disadvantage is while it’s open source, the code hasn’t been audited yet, which might be a deal breaker for people obsessed with security.
Yeah I read it’s a bit double edged but would anyone ever want to audit a open source software that can Take over a paying one?… might just take the jump.
Just about every centralized service will be breached at some point. At least they have a cybersecurity team and everybody got notified and can act accordingly. If you choose another just because they haven’t been hacked, it’s just a matter of time. I think they’re still a viable option, just be ready to react to notices like these.
Personally, I chose the self-hosted route, but that comes at the cost of maybe never knowing if you get breached until its too late.
Normally I’d agree with you, but in the case of lastpass, I have to disagree. Ever since they’re bought by LogMeIn, not only they significantly increased the price, they also have security incidents after security incidents, with the worst one in 2022, not to mention a bunch of vulnerabilities that seems so basic it shouldn’t be a problem on other password managers. There were also shenanigans where they seemingly intentionally broke data export to slow down exodus of their users to other password managers.
They were recently spun off as a separate company from GoTo/LogMeIn, but at this point I have lost faith and would not recommend lastpass at all.
Fair enough. Thanks for the extra context.
Repeatedly have data stolen and data leaks. Fuck them. Also bait and switch to a one device or pay.
jfc do not use LastPass. They have a proven track record of shitty security practices and multiple breaches.
1password, bitwarden, keeper, even chrome but not LastPass.
We have also KeePass for a local/non-internet solution
I assure you that the average userbase doesn’t care about such things. (Lmao - Privacy? I got nothing to hide -type of people) As long as functionality doesn’t break massively there won’t be an exodus.
Absolutely, though to be fair I trust the anonymous random people running the thousands of fediverse instances and communities far less than a legitimate, traceable company that gets third party audited and has to, at least, follow national laws.
I don’t love Reddit’s owners obviously, but yeah. When it comes to privacy, I don’t have any misconceptions about Lemmy being private in the least. Unfortunately :-(
The US has zero privacy laws and, as far as I know, Reddit follows zero audit frameworks (eg SOC 2). Additionally, Reddit currently does not follow its legal burden under state laws.
I’m not saying your mistrust of the fediverse is wrong. I am saying your trust of corporations is completely unfounded and very naive. Trusting the US to do anything is equally naive (see Yahoo, Experian, and multiple alphabet agencies).
The difference is advertising. Lemmy has no incentive to sell you out. A company like reddit will squeeze every legal penny out of your personal info and then some more illegally if they think they can get away with it.
That is unless the instance owners enters into an advertising deal with a company.
To keep the instance “afloat”
just wait 5 years, the fediverse will either be dead or swallowed up by meta. the only two things it has to go for it is the decentralized nature and the absence of open advertisements.
They didn’t figure on Reddit making it 5 years either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ve heard that about FOSS projects before they really blew up. Good things do happen sometimes.
So at any point a community can defederate from meta and only federate with the likeminded free communities.
That is the strength of the fediverse.
yeah, maybe, it will just keep staying under the radar and at some point someone will have to spend some cash to keep the lights on.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if fb or Reddit started their own Lemmy instances, which they would use to post ads, and have some user-transparent integration with their native platform.
But I bet a lot of instances would de-fed them like you say.
What happend to reddit? I only know that most 3rd party apps shut down because of the API costs
as if
Fuck spez, man
