• doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    Apparently American Reddit has been plastered with ads from a billion-dollar Evangelical Christian campaign for months and Jewish, LGBT amd atheist users have been especially targeted

    Religion and Politics were categories you could not opt out of

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      I was eventually banned because I kept reporting people for bigotry, and they just didn’t want to do their job. So they banned the complainer instead of actually addressing the problem.

      Also for some reason I kept getting directed to atheism and skepticism related subreddits, in addition to Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris, and I wasn’t sure why.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      172 years ago

      Religion and Politics were categories you could not opt out of

      Reddit New Atheists (including the CEO) stop being opportunistic hypocrites challenge. Difficulty level: up-yours-woke-moralists

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        I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed the new atheist problem that Reddit has. It became such a bubble, that I thought that the entire world abandoned any pretense of anything mystical or Supernatural

        The idea of them possibly being real has kept a bullet out of my head. I just wish we had proof

  • @[email protected]
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    232 years ago

    As I removed everything from all my Reddit accounts and deleted them, except my porn account for some nieche fetishes, I don’t care. Let it die and save the porn.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      Yup ads and posts on reddit are becoming even more indistinguishable, the “organic community” is just a selling point for marketing because you can embed yourself in it, basically just exploiting their users. The metrics to gauge ad performance is based on things that make the site shitty as well. Reddit, at least the big subs, haven’t been organic in this way for a long time, it’s basically a simulation of an organic online community at this point.

    • @[email protected]
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      222 years ago

      Oh, okay. I had no idea. I was like “How far do I have to scroll to find out what reddit did this time?”

      Wouldn’t affect me anyway, because I use an ad blocker.

    • macniel
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      432 years ago

      Neat, so they are monetising your activities on the plattform. Isn’t that great?

    • verysoft
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      102 years ago

      Why are these people still there, do they just stick around on reddit to complain about it?

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        I think the average person is not willing to take 5 minutes to figure out how Kbin or Lemmy works.

        • verysoft
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          22 years ago

          Kbin, at least, for the end user is just as simple as reddit.

          • @[email protected]
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            62 years ago

            Before I left Reddit, I searched for alternatives and saw that people recommended Lemmy or Kbin. But I didn’t know what those things were. I assumed they were just Reddit clones hosted by someone else. I didn’t know that I could create an account on Kbin and interact with other posts in the Fediverse. I didn’t even know what the Fediverse was. So I was stuck with this decision of “do I try Lemmy or Kbin first?”

            When I decided to try Lemmy, the first thing you need to do is sign up on an instance. People recommended beehaw.org, but that required filling out an application to join. That seems weird, since I never had to apply to read Reddit. I decided to try another instance (sh.itjust.works) but was worried that I was missing out on what people had recommended about other instances. Maybe I chose the wrong one? Maybe I should make an account on Lemmy.world instead?

            It took me a little while to grasp the concept of federation and realize that it made no difference as an end user which instance I chose. I stuck with it, as did everyone reading this, but I think it’s fair to say that the average person has similar barriers to entry. We’ve overcome them, but many, many people will not.

            • @[email protected]
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              42 years ago

              The app situation is getting much much better. The website UI is inferior to old reddit or the apps. I know some servers support the old reddit UI but it’s not discoverable. Stuff like expanding images needs to be easier to do instead of clicking a semi-hidden 10px square each picture.

              Sync and Boost are great, though I’m still not happy with the iOS apps (I like Avalon and Mlem, but I don’t live either of them, whereas the Android apps feel fantastic).

              • @[email protected]
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                22 years ago

                Boost is lovely and polished and you can see that tons of work has gone into it.

                Tell you what though: while I was waiting for Boost, damned if the Voyager (fka wefwef) PWA came out of nowhere with (I think) some of the nicest UX of any of the contenders, plus an insane release schedule because they can just push changes whenever. Voyager is honestly what has kept me here. (…he says, posting from Boost)

            • @[email protected]
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              22 years ago

              you joined early on, you had to work at understanding the fediverse. now there are plenty of places that explain everything.

            • verysoft
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              True, the concept of the fediverse is probably what confuses people, it’s never explained clearly. I hope it’s growth helps spread information about it, how it works and why you want it.

      • andrew_bidlaw
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        62 years ago

        Hating Reddit is the usual Reddit routine, the one you may be rewarded for with Reddit’s updoots.

      • @[email protected]
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        102 years ago

        I was going to ask as well. Doesn’t it like infringe on a law madd by California or the EU or some shit?

    • @[email protected]
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      1112 years ago

      Time for a new influx. Everyone still on reddit needs to advertise lemmy.

      And not join-lemmy.org, that’s confusing. Just pick one of the larger servers like lemm.ee or fedia.io and tell people to browse it and click “Sign Up” if they like it.

      • Jay
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        522 years ago

        I’d recommend a smaller community to help spread the load. I originally signed up on .world but they were having some growing pains (And a disgruntled idiot ddosing them) so I moved to .ca which helped tremendously.

      • q47tx
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        162 years ago

        Going to do exactly that soon. Replace all comments and posts.

  • Queen HawlSera
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    172 years ago

    The best part is, the normies are probably going to stay on read it no matter what. Meeting we can have a picture of what the internet must have been like before the endless September, now that’s a boomer ass reference if anyone ever heard one.

    • @[email protected]
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      92 years ago

      It will be like that, plus political posts.

      Because people are addicted to spreading their political opinions like evangelists of old.

      And they never think you mean them when you ask them to stop, becuse then other team is evil, and inserting their political opinions in to everything is their personality now. It’s tut only way they can get them likes.

      Social media changed society and sadly, I don’t think escaping to the Fediverse can out run the political borest.

      • Dave.
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        52 years ago

        Because people are addicted to spreading their political opinions like evangelists of old.

        Luckily that only generally seems to be Americans. So if you could all kindly tag yourselves in your profiles as such it would make it a lot easier to filter. /s

        Sure, there’s always some low-level background muttering about politics in other countries, but the USA has really taken the cult of personality/political party to it’s absolute max.

        Looking from the outside in, I pin the beginnings of this on the pledge of allegiance. Indoctrinated a whole bunch of young boomers into the idea that the USA was at the pinnacle of society, and once you blindly believe that, your eyes are closed to the actual issues. Rinse and repeat for a few generations and here we are, watching a country tear itself apart via a political system stained with polarisation, bias and narcissism.

      • Queen HawlSera
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        12 years ago

        I think we will see the damage reversed, part of that is going to involve finding these places that have become the centralized forces of the internet go under. Something Twitter and Reddit are doing as they drive things off the platform

  • GreenBottles
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    42 years ago

    I just deleted my account because I was inspired by this post this morning. I hadn’t logged in since the last drama here, so fuck them. I’m getting by just fine with Lemmy.

  • I might be biased but I find that reddit has become insufferably right wing in it’s userbase, especially since the last fiasco.

    I just lookevery once in a while and it is full of the most reactionary, nationalist shite

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    All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving

    I saw one that said they would stay until Reddit charges a fee to use the site…like why are they staying??? JUST FUCKING LEAVE

    One even said “there are no viable alternatives” when talking about Reddit, like excuse me what the fuck?

    • @[email protected]
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      I’ll probably get hate, but the content just isn’t there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I’d follow on Reddit just weren’t on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it’s just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn’t much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan

      PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs

      • @[email protected]
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        Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times

        I always assumed that since both upvote and downvote counters are visible, it won’t be the case. But boy I was wrong. The political/news posts are always a constant shitshow reminiscent of T_D.

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        New communities, you’ll just have to yell into the void for a while until people start to yell back.

      • @[email protected]
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        92 years ago

        yeah that’s honestly what I found as well. once I discovered you can patch RIF to use your own personal api token, I’ve been continuing to use reddit. it’s such a subpar experience compared to what it used to be tho

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          I’m surprised they let you use your own API token. During the API apocalypse, Spez specifically said that was “not allowed.”

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            It’s usable for bots and such, I’ve seen reports of some users getting banned for using it in patched clients when detected

    • @[email protected]
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      All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving

      I think because they are uninformed. They are looking for alternatives, and don’t know about Lemmy, or don’t understand Lemmy, etc.

      • @[email protected]
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        132 years ago

        It’s exactly this, I only found lemmy through a sticky comment inside a post 2 days ago, and I’ve been wanting to get off Reddit for months

        • Queen HawlSera
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          22 years ago

          Loki it might help if the special interest boards were more active, also the porn is way more well hidden here than it is on Reddit.

            • XiELEd
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              32 years ago

              You haven’t encountered them on your front page yet???

              • Queen HawlSera
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                Wait you’re getting it on your front page?

                How?!? I subscribed to every porn instance I could find and still all I’m getting are politics, programming, and for some reason atheist memes.

                • XiELEd
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                  I think you should change your default page from All/Local to Subscribed

      • @[email protected]
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        Unfortunately, to understand lemmy is to be on lemmy. You have to be here and experience it.

        They have to make that leap of faith. There’s nothing to lose anyway, there’s no requirement to delete reddit to become a lemmy user. So what’s holding them back. Mauve they believe the anti lemmy post on reddit or maybe they just say they want to leave reddit but has no real desire to follow through.

        • Dave.
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          But… what about my 83k karma and 13 year badge!

          Gamification is a powerful addictive force.

          When Reddit locked down their API and Boost stopped working, I forced myself to do casual browsing on chrome on my phone. It was clunky enough that I didn’t bother replying to comments, and navigation is a bit of a pain on mobile, and that was enough to ruin the game.

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      All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering… Leaving

      Reminds me of people who keep voting for politicians they supposedly can’t stand.

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      There aren’t viable alternatives. We don’t have the active niche (and not so niche) communities reddit does. And even if there was somehow a meaningful mass exodus, these little instances would break like wet toilet paper trying to hold a bowling ball.

      I don’t say this to be critical of lemmy. I’m happy here. Just being realistic.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yeah we don’t need to be like reddit. I’m happy if rss usage becomes stronger . So those niche communities can stay wherever they can thrive but still be reachable through rss.

    • lazyraccoon
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      312 years ago

      They’re used to what they know, and change - even for the better - seems wrong.

      • Queen HawlSera
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        232 years ago

        I’m a trans woman here, and to be honest change of any kind is so scary that it is unbelievable. Like when I finally got approved for hormone, the prescription stayed at the pharmacy for like 2 or 3 weeks before eventually I decided to call a friend…

        I knew that if I went myself I would probably just chicken out or maybe I’d pick them up and just put them aside somewhere, simply because I knew that there would be no going back. I didn’t even want to go back, but the fact that I couldn’t was still scary.

        But my friend made me take them right then and there, as anybody would, as he always had a good ability to talk me out of my inhibitions.

        It’s been about a decade since then and lemme tell you, life is better on two legs than three.

        Hell I had been wanting a Reddit alternative for the longest time because the place was a shit hole from the beginning, but traditional online forums are dead.

        It took a Perma ban from the whole site for me to make the switch, it’s going to come sooner or later, it’s a ban happy website it wasn’t even the first time.

        Even then I felt like a criminal on the run.

        PS: a bunch of right wing trolls have reported my account for threats of violence, simply because I said something about Star Wars that they didn’t like.

        I got a permaban, and had to write an appeal letter to get them to look at what I actually posted to realize that there was not even the slightest hint of a threat there.

        Ironically the second time was for abusing the report button, something that’s not even listed in their terms of service, because that was easier than actually looking at all of the bigoted things that I reported. I try appealing that too, but never got a response

        • BuckFigotstheThird
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          I’m Trans and had no problems leaving reddit. It’s a cess pool full of bots, trolls and Rupert Murdocks goonies. Reddit would almost never side with the victim of bigotry and even punish the victim for reporting hate speech.

          It’s garbage and I been gone for months now. Used that script to change all my posts then went back later and deleted each one manually.

      • @[email protected]
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        232 years ago

        People forget how bad reddit was when we all moved from digg.com. It was bad. It would crash every other day.

        Lemmy is far more mature than reddit was during the digg exodus.

        • @[email protected]
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          I wasn’t an early adopter of Reddit, or Lemmy, but this sort of has the same issues of momentum as web browsers do. It doesn’t matter how they started. Where they are now is the standard, and that’s what you have to build to in order to be a viable replacement. With browsers it’s the capability to serve pretty much any page with all the bells and whistles, with Reddit/Lemmy it’s all the posts, comments, and user base. I think it can happen, but it won’t be easy or fast. I’m not worried, though. I think we can rely on spez to send more users this way until a suitable number of users have joined.

    • @[email protected]
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      202 years ago

      these people are the same group of people that won’t leave twitter. some people just live to be miserable and complain about things one hundred percent in their control.

      it’s insane and i can’t wrap my brain around it.

      • Queen HawlSera
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        52 years ago

        It seems to be human nature that people are resistant to change, and it appears that are kombat instincts from when we were monkeys that can only be satiated these days by arguing on the internet and complaining.

        You’re simply have to find a way to take the soul out of the human and put into something better. unfortunately I don’t know that Souls exist

    • Queen HawlSera
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      32 years ago

      There are no viable Alternatives because they won’t come here, to the viable alternative. Seriously I would love to be able to go on special interest boards again but unfortunately the crowd is still on Lemmy.

      Who’s prostate do I have to massage with a rubber glove in order to get a simple conversation about Dragon Quest going on around here?