Because those “loving family members” IRL are usually nosy dickheads, and there is no dating scene in small towns. So it’s either marry your cousin, or move to the city.
Not to mention job opportunities…
She had 275 siblings. Getting away from that farm was the smartest thing she’s ever done. She has no hope of any kind of meaningful inheritance. I’m honestly surprised a farm could support that many rabbits and still turn any kind of profit. It must have been subsidized out the wazoo. The last thing it needs is her hanging around, getting hitched to some redneck just out of high school, popping out a couple hundred hungry mouths of her own right before the inevitable foreclosure and declaration of martial law as the farmpocalypse occurs when her parents finally kick it and the tens-of-thousands of children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren raze the countryside in search of fodder. Just ask an Australian what rabbits are capable of.
Also the explicit reason stated that she went away was because of basic empathy for others and duty to others for a positive impact on the world. I just realized that the entire plot of zootopia would be lost on a lot of people purely out of apathy.
I my experience I am seeing how the trend goes on the other direction and more and more people around me actively choose to leave the city and go to rural areas. I think that this tends to happens around the mid 30s,!not exclusively, and might be also related to an specific location. I am central Europe based. It’s just my personal experience tough.
I feel this too. I want space and quiet.
Theres something very soul crushing about decades of suburbanite living. Theres a lot of country/rural folks in the comment section who are singing all the bad parts of that kind of life, but they don’t know what its like to live your whole life in one big cramped giant shopping mall surrounded by hundreds of houses withing a mile. with no nature in sight except the tiny ass overregulated national/state ‘parks’. Nowhere to really go and nothing to see unless you’re prepared to go miles since almost every town is so overdeveloped. The light pollution so bad only the brightest stars can be seen, some people live and die never seeing the night sky in its true glory. The real threat of not enough jobs and homelessness if you cant pay this months ever rising 1500$ rent, or sign up for decades of debt for a mortgage just for a small poorly constructed 2 story house. I want fresh air, and a beautiful night sky, to actually own a piece of land without being in debt the rest of my life, and not be bothered or seen by a single human being unless wanted, and to not worry about HOA bullshit and nosey onlooking neighbors watching me from across the yard. Fuck convinence, fuck 500,000$ homes, fuck middle class suburbanite yuppies who ruin every place they touch with endless gentrification to have a safe place for ‘teh family’, you want it you can have it.
Often the suburbs than strictly rural areas in America, but people moving to rural (especially scenic) locales isn’t uncommon.
Into the Wild was kind of the inverse of this. Obviously it didn’t work out for the guy, but why does it have to? He had an idea he wanted to achieve and followed his dreams
Nothing works out on a long enough time line.
Lol, wtf
We already have that, it’s called the Hallmark channel and exists entirely to aggressively propagandize to rural stay at home moms to remind them that they made the good choice staying behind while everyone else went out looking for careers and how those city slickers are stupid because they can’t ride a horse, nevermind how Karen hasn’t even touched a horse, nevermind learned to ride, evaluation based on real facts is for those liberals and their critical gender theory!
She wasn’t bigoted enough to become a small town cop so she had to become a city cop.
Despite that most incidents of racial profiling occur within the city where a multi-racial ecosystem is more prevalent and the cops don’t even live in the city they police. But sure.
Because these characters are usually young and cities are exciting. Wanting to get away from people tends to happen later in life. That said, I know plenty of people in their 40s/50s who love city living.
Yeah people want excitement from movies and TV and country life is usually quiet and might be considered boring for movies or TV programs or just wouldn’t be considered interesting by most younger people.
It’s not even that complicated… the vast majority of people that make up the consumer market live in urban environments.
Being clear, living in the sticks for 42 years of my life wasn’t ideal. That is unless you like living in a dry county surrounded by narrow-minded, puritanical shitbirds that were working OT to make sure people either went to church, or publicly shame them if they weren’t. There was also the in crowds that held people back or elevated them, depending on which family you were related to.
I do miss the hunting and fishing, though I can head back any time I want to do that. Meanwhile, I’ll stay where I can maintain my chill by having copious resources readily available when I want them, and enough anonymity to enjoy them without anyone asking me where I was last Sunday.
Your spiel reminds me of Dylan Moran’s stand-up bit about country life.
There is a good amount of evidence that the US government contracts some of the bigger studios and makes deals with them so that they portray things how the government wants them to be.
A big example is any movie involving the US military. They’ll rent out all the military equipment for free as long as they get final say over the movie.
Not sure if something like this would fall under that, but I wouldn’t be shocked.
Isn’t that a good strategy though if you’re trying to project soft power by using your domestic film industry to your advantage?
American culture is one of its big exports, and you can gain a lot more cultural influence around the world by making cool movies with multimillion weapons systems by cooperating with filmmakers when they’d otherwise be sitting at the ready or in storage.
But also, the US government didn’t have a hand in Zootopia’s plot.
I love the common American boogeyman known as “government”. I like to imagine the president or any other of the fuckers in high positions going to the film studios and explaining to them what the government has chosen and what they’re gonna show in the movie. Instead of their more common leisure time - coke, hookers and moralizing.
Some military movies are sponsored by the military (not the government), but as much as you’d like there to be some conspiracy, it’s dead simple - the marketing guys decided it’s a great opportunity to recruit people and the director got to make an expensive movie for cheap.
“Stadtliche luft macht man frei” is an old German saying. City air makes you free. Life in a small town can be stifling. That close-knit family wants you to be just like them. God forbid you want to do or see anything new. The moving-to-a-big-city trope is as old as cinema, and has strong roots in reality.
In the middle-ages in at least in what is now Estonia, if you ecaped to the city and lived there for a year and a day you would be set free from your serfdom. “Linna õhk teeb vabaks” same frase was used for that.
I agree with the sentiment, but Germans have a horrible track record on what makes you free.
Came here to try to make this joke. You did better than I could have, I was trying to create a Germanic folk hero named Arvid McFry
The prefix “Mc” or “Mac” is Celtic anyway, not Germanic, so you failed in that sense too.
And Arvid is Scandinavian. That’s why I didn’t do it.
“Stadtluft macht frei” but yes, everything else is spot on.
The background back then was, that citizens of towns weren’t owned by anyone in the feudal system unlike people that lived outside the walls.
There were free peasants outside cities. The specific reason is a serf could run away to a city, and if he managed to stay long enough, he stopped being a serf and became a citizen.
Eh, my friend actually did that. I assumed that she had some sort of awful family she was running from, but actually they’re nice and she visits them on holidays. She just wanted to be in the big city so much that she was willing to rent a single room in a bad neighborhood and constantly look for odd jobs rather than live out in the countryside with her parents.
I understand the draw. It’s boring in the country for most young people. At least there’s always something to do or something to see in the city.
I was a city kid that ended up in the country, and it’s like a different world. It took me years to slow down to country pace. Now that I’m older I enjoy it, but it took a lot of getting used to. There’s things I miss about the city but I prefer being out here where I never have to lock things up for fear of it getting stolen, cleaner air, and all the other issues city life brings.
The biggest issue I have out here is keeping the deer out of my garden.
A tip I got from an orchard owner is to use human hair clippings. They just got them from a barber shop and stuffed them in cans attached to the trees. Aparently the smell helps keep the deer away.
Also cat or dog urine can help keep them away. If you have an indoor cat then you can “mark” the area with used cat litter and that should keep them out. You can also just buy straight up bobcat urine online for that purpose. I’m not sure if it works any better than regular cat or dog pee, but it is available.
I’ve tried the hair clippings and these guys don’t seem to care. I’m a hairy guy, so maybe I smell too much like a sasquatch?
Haven’t tried the cat thing tho… there’s strays that live out back but I’m not sure if they do their business there so I may give that a try.
Put in some big T-posts around the border, like 10 ft ones, one on each of the four corners. Once they’re pounded in, string up some fairy lights around 9 ft off the ground and then another set around 6 ft off the ground. Assuming you have a ~4 ft fence with chicken wire for squirrels, this light configuration will keep them out–even if you don’t keep the lights on overnight, since deer hate jumping into stuff they don’t see ahead of time.
With this configuration, our garden has been deer-free in an area that has a ton of them. I see around 20 unique deer literally every day on my property, and I’ve never seen any of them in my garden, nor have I found any deer-eaten veggies.
I may try that. Some people down the road put a 8 foot chicken wire fence around theirs to keep them out, but I kind of wanted to avoid looking like a prison yard.
Another issue is that LBGT people often have to flee hostile rural towns for a city where they can be free to live. We’re currently in the middle of a refuge crisis as trans people flee red States for mostly cities (small towns in blue states can be scary too) in places like Minnesota.
I mean I can imagine the dating prospects are really terrible in the countryside, noone talked about that yet.
Dodging accidental incest is basically the most popular sport where I grew up.
Joking aside, where I grew up there were certain “clans” as we only somewhat jokingly refered to them. Basically large interconnected family units that were usually dominated by a single central family with smaller branch off families on the periphery. Dating someone within your clan wasn’t necissarily off limits because that person may not actually be related to you, but if you were in the same clan then you knew your families were very closely linked and you have to be careful. If you wanted to be safe though then you just date someone from outside your clan. Basically if you mention the last name of that central family and they don’t recognize it, then you’re usually good; if they do recognize it then you need to do some more digging.
It’s a sense of adventure and wanting to try new things. I grew up in a very small town, lived in a couple large cities (not Chicago, but you would get robbed every once in awhile and hear some gun shots). I currently live in a medium size city a few states from where I grew up and it’s depressing to me than going home and seeing the people who have never even tried anything else.
in a bad neighborhood
If it’s not built after 2000, then the only reason it is bad is because people think it is.
how does anon quite literally live in ancapistan?
rural life can not be austainable.
move out of city for cheap house etc - than complain about no wifi, no doctors etc - force government to have fiber internet - yadda yadda
people who advocate rural areas are just big egoists and ignorant
rural life can not be sustainable.
Cities need farms to feed the inhabitants of the cites, farms can’t exist without farmers (yet) and there’s plenty of types of businesses farmers need to visit fairly frequently in order to live. This creates and sustains the small farm communities the dot the rural landscape between large cities
move out of city for cheap house etc - than complain about no wifi, no doctors etc - force government to have fiber internet - yadda yadda
Farmers need services too. Are you just saying everyone unlucky enough to be born outside of a major metropolis must go without medical care or access to modern services?
Also fiber is literally cheaper in the long term. It has effectively infinite bandwidth, requires no maintenance except repairing damage by excavation/natural disasters/wildlife (which any kind of utility line requires) and can run literally hundreds of kilometers without any repeaters or anything else to maintain the signal inbetween.
ISPs were (and still are in many places) utilizing worn out, sometimes over a century old telephone and cable television infrastructure to deliver internet to places that hadn’t yet gotten fiber, and it perpetuates a digital divide that prevents kids growing up on farms from accessing services that might help them be the most productive members of society that they can be
people who advocate rural areas are just big egoists and ignorant
I think you’re the ignorant one in this case
assumptions assumptions.
look at the facts.
co2 -> rural homes cause way more emissions
…so does their commute.
they cost, we pay
internet…extremely expensive to get fibre everywhere. …so is public transport.
the cost, we pay
i do not see how a planet with growing numbers of ppl could allow rural areas really
assumptions assumptions. look at the facts.
I literally provided facts and linked on the ones that are not common knowledge
i do not see how a planet with growing numbers of ppl could allow rural areas really
WHERE WILL THE FOOD BE GROWN THEN?! WHERE WILL THE RESOURCES TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN THE CITIES COME FROM?!
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/vertical-farming
all caps does not make anything right
internet…extremely expensive to get fibre everywhere.
Fibre cost per kilometer is much cheaper than copper. Fibre is cheapest way to get internet everywhere.
starlink not cheaper?
the point is that it costs money to get infrastructure anywhere. and those ppl that just want to live out their fantasy to build their own ugly home somewhere in the woods just care about themselves.
Starlink is actually extremely expensive and slow. About $600 for the dish and about $100 for speed slower than my cable plan in 2003 as slow as 25Mbps. Worse even though rural areas are spread out a good chunk of people tend towards smaller clumps close enough to be sharing the same bandwidth. The entire constellation doesn’t scale to supporting a reasonable experience to even a fraction of rural America let alone planet earth.
You still basically need to run fiber into every town however small.
thanks. i hoped it was faster really.
Also housing in cities is artificially expensive because it’s illegal to.built dense housing in.most of it.because of suburbanites who wanna play pretend farmhouse
paris.
dense enough? considered worth living? because if all ppl would live i a terrible terrible city like paris, we’d have a shitload of nature back.
anyone who thinks one deserves to live rural just says his/her personal choice of lifestyle is more important than a future for the kids. rural areas destroy so much nature and take up way too much land.
Worse yet is when people claim to want to live rural but just end up in some distant suburb instead
Suburbs are part of the spectrum between rural and urban. Some population density and some open space.
The main problem with suburbs is that they are exclusively residential instead of a mix with commercial.
Suburbs are worst of both worlds. And american suburbs based on what I know about them are worst type of suburbs.
I lived in a suburb that had shopping and a city park in easy walking distance as a kid and it was pretty awesome. I now live in one where the nearest business is 2 miles away and it sucks. Both in the US and with wildly different experiences.
I also lived in a fairly dense residential area that was great as there were businesses in walking distance that were fun to go to, and another where there were businesses, but they all sucked so I had to drive somewhere else.
The real problem is the separation if residential and business zoning to such a degree that going to any business requires transportation.
it.because of suburbanites who wanna play pretend farmhouse
And don’t pay for it
You literally cannot grow sufficient food to feed the population of the city within the city. Every city requires massive rural areas for sustenance.
Rural areas have sufficient abundance to both sustain themselves and the cities.
But there’s no jobs in rural areas. That’s why they’re emptying out
Why is “a job” considered so essential to life?
Everything costs money for some reason
When you understand that reason, you’ll understand why it doesn’t need to be so.
can you give me any source for that?
i heard paris is considered a beautiful city. if all humans lived in a city as dense as paris we could all live in an area the size of germany.
growing population says it is impossible to feed the world with conventional farming as this will further reduce nature.
rural areas are whats destroying the planet.
also, were i lived the farmer has an ipad and the machines do all the work. nobody really needs to live there anymore as you can easily check from the number of employees in farming. constant decline. it is bs to think people need to be in thos rural areas but you can wait till it is 100% machine made.
Rural areas provide food and raw materials for the cities. That’s their entire purpose.
If all people lived in a city as dense as Paris, they would all starve: Paris does not have a single farm producing food.
If all people lived in a city as dense as Paris, every manufacturer would be out of business due to lack of raw materials: Paris does not have a single mine.
If rural areas are destroying the planet, it is because the cities are demanding from those areas more than the planet can provide.
the cities
It’s not cities doing that, it’s capitalism.
Socialist cities make the same demands on rural areas that capitalist cities do. It’s primarily a function of population density, not economic model.
At best, a square mile of farmland can feed about 6000 people. That’s under ideal conditions and assuming vegetarians. Want a little meat in your diet, and 2500 is a more realistic number.
A square mile of Chicago contains about 12,000 people. That’s 2 to 4.8 square miles of farmland for every square mile of city. Chicago is about 230 square miles.
A square mile of New York contains about 30,000 people. That’s 5 to 12 sq miles of farmland for every square mile of city. New York is about 300 square miles.
A square mile of Paris contains about 53,000 people. 8.8 to 21.2 sq miles of farmland for every square mile of city. Paris is about 40 square miles.
You know, after leaving the country: I really don’t mind losing connection with my racist family members joking about how “dropped nickels stay on the ground since picking them up is worthless.”
And I certainly don’t miss them and others bashing my gay friends for being different.
The open country has a lot of potential, but unfortunately a lot of people outside of the metropolitan are dumb and shit and stay prejudiced out of comfort and having no reason to learn.
I’ve lived in high urban, low urban, suburban, and rural. They all have pros and cons.
If you’re dating tho, the city is way better, but good luck finding practice space - if you’re into that sort of thing.
There are dating practise spaces?
Haha, yeah, it’s called the bar.
