That completely depends on what’s updating, and I haven’t seen software updates as frequent occurrences. The frequency may be something I’m missing, of course.

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://youtu.be/Tjpby8jt7jY?feature=shared

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

Fair enough. They can be disabled.

I think you mean firing lines.

I have one car, it’s 20 years old and I’ve had it since 2009. Sometimes I look around and think, maybe it’s time to get one not covered in scratches with a dent in the back? But then I see posts like this and feel incredibly grateful this little banger has kept me on the road for so long.

You should be ok with up to 2018 models

Depending on the country you might not be able to do that. In some countries you have strict emission guidelines where cars older than 5 years need to be certified that they output emission below a certain threshold. It’s good for the environment, but if you live in a place that has shit public transportation it can force you to get new cars and spend much more than required to have a car that suits your needs.

I’m extremely curious what would happen if I just shut it down and left it as usual while it is updating but I’m not ready to test it out yet. Lol

It’s because they don’t want the car battery running flat during installation. Kind of like how your phone requires a minimum battery charge to update

Usually aftermarket ECU means no longer road legal.

I get it, but I don’t feel comfortable putting my car in the hands of an Arduino.

Nothing against the open source software at all. It’s the fact that the Arduino is a consumer experimentation board, not an automotive rated component. I’m concerned for the reliability of the Arduino under the operating conditions of an automobile.

Android Automotive, not to be confused with the entirely separate and unrelated Android Auto.

Or better - build it myself

That’s called a kit car.

Buy a 90s shit bucket if you don’t want a nice infotainment, I guess. Modern software needs updates. I’ve never sat more than a few seconds. They are rare updates, I’ve got 3 in 3 years.

What car model was this?

Power train conversion is reasonably simple. Just throw combustion engine and transmission box away, make brackets for electric motors and attach them directly to the wheels (with axles if necessary). Conversion of controls is (I assume) is also somewhat simple since existing brake system and power steering is quite straightforward to run with electric motors since you just need something which can run a belt drive and gas pedal is most likely already electric. For all the electronics you have plenty of space in where the engine used to be.

But. And there’s a pretty big but. Batteries are pretty big and pretty heavy. On any given combustion engine car there’s just no room for them (at least if you’re after a conversion with similar range/power than a readily built electric car). And even if you cut the floor panel off and modify it to accomodate battery pack (or whatever the route you choose might be) it’ll heavily affect weight distribution, frame stability and many other things, suspension included. Model S battery is apparently 540kg, so if you’ll do a conversion to your corolla you might save around 150kg of weight by removing old engine+transmission but you’d still have additional 300kg of mass to deal with.

For a van which is designed to haul heavy loads from the start it might be pretty simple to just raise floor of the cargo space a bit but for a common sedan that’s a whole another thing.

Swapping an engine is relatively easy if you know what you’re doing… If these kits can connect the electric motor to the existing drive train it wouldn’t be too bad. Messing around with batteries big enough for an electric vehicle can be really dangerous though.

Nah. It’s less profitable.

forced to buy

the real mildlyinfuriating is always in the comments

Don’t worry. You know those car nuts who put 20 spoilers on their cars and mod the engine etc… There will be a point where most of them do it with the futuretech cars and it will be in their way, which means they will circumvent it and ordinary people will be able to hire them to do it to their cars too. It was the same wis “chip tuning”.

You forgot about the programmed obsolescence.

There are some positives and negatives to the desire for old form factors. Secondhand phones from 2018 cost much less than new ones but lack some of the new features like… I can’t think of any.

Aaawwww Man. I hate to admit it but you’re absolutely right. It’s so much work it might not even be worth it.

Spaßbremse!

/s

Exactly. Just slap a few electric motors on those wheels and maybe an inflatable horse for the lulz and you’re good to go.

To be fair it’s a pretty cool way to describe an engine

Because it’s a main source of active power that can be re-directed.

A battery on an EV can be too, in which case the main contactor should be verified disconnected prior to any software update. But typically people don’t refer to that as the ‘engine’.

So prime mover encompasses engines and main batteries.

It’s a safety issue.

Crazy inexplicable things can happen when modern cars have electrical control access to brakes/steering/throttle.

Firmware doesn’t take right, download message emulates by accident another message, random bit flipping that even CRC checks miss.

There’s no reason to risk any of that. Just shut the engine off.