• @[email protected]
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      It’s a default on some distros, unfortunately, and changing it without updating the necessary env vars will break a bunch of stuff.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        It would be a default on almost every distro that follows XDG specifications to have stuff like Downloads, Pictures, Videos in the $HOME folder. One of the first things I do as part of an installation is to modify ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs and set a specific folder, say /data/downloads or ~/downloads, for every XDG base directory.

  • @[email protected]
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    Reasonable and sane behavior of cd. Just get into the habit of always using lower case names for files and directories, that’s how our forefathers did it.

    • @[email protected]
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      Lower case directories?

      Eww

      ILikeMineInAWayICanReadThemProperly, instead of ilikemineinawayicanreadthemproperly

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        If a directory has multiple words in it I usually do kebab case: i-like-mine-in-a-way-i-can-read-them-properly. Both easier to read and type than pascal case.

        For more complex filenames I use a combination of kebab-case and snake_case, where the underscore separates portions of the file name and kebab-case the parts of those portions. E.g. movie-title_release-date-or-year_technical-specifications.mp4

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      I remember having that when I used OhMyZsh, but after going back to a more bespoke config it doesn’t work anymore. Also tried using zsh as a different user to ignore my own configs, that doesn’t work either.

      tldr, it’s not default zsh behavior.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s not default in zsh maybe, but it’s default in the oh-my-zsh config most people use.

        I ran zsh for a while without that config and manually configured everything and it also works, but takes quite a bit of web searching to find all the knobs to turn.

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          I don’t think most people use oh-my-zsh. It’s very popular, and a lot of people use it, but I think most is a stretch.

          Either way, it’s just a set of plugins and configs so of course you can get it to work on any setup. Just saying that it’s not inherent to zsh, and you can probably get similar behavior in most shells with a similar config.

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        The only thing that annoys me is having to wrap wildcard expressions in quotes when using e.g. the find command.

        But then it looks more correct, so it’s hard to argue with.

  • GollumOP
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    I seems that I have triggered something, but keep that going, it’s quality content generation. 😬

    • @[email protected]
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      Everyone on any Linux thread ever: you are a moron, obviously and you’re doing it wrong. Why don’t you install another distro, or better yet: modify and recompile your distro to match your desired experience, the code is open source ffs! What do you need? 4 years of work maybe? Come on.

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    echo ‘set completion-ignore-case On’ >> ~/.inputrc

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      also idk does zsh do this automatically? don’t think i’ve ever had this problem except on legacy AF servers

      i mean… unless you don’t tab complete, but then who doesn’t spam tab 30 times every keystroke?

      • MerfMerf
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        Or up-arrow a bazillion time because you probably have it SOMEWHERE in the buffer, surely.

    • UFO
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      Shit yo. How come I only learn this now? Thanks!

    • @[email protected]
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      How does that handle languages that have different rules for capitalization? For example I and i are not the same letter in Turkish.

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        I believe that type of stuff is specified in your locale, so it’s possible that it would do the right thing if you’ve set your language to Turkish. Please try it and let us know though :)

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        Don’t know actually, never used a language like that. But should be easy enough to undo should one test it and end up not liking how it handles it.

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    I don’t get it… “D” is a complete different character than “d” is.

    It’s like wondering why “file1” is not opened when I typed in “file2”.

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      that’s not how language works though, in human language (i know this can be confusing) d and D are the same letter just in different forms.

      It’s one thing to have case sensitivity in programs doing data manipulation, that makes sense because you don’t want the program to accidentally use the wrong files without supervision.

      But when you have an interactive prompt you know what you’re doing, you can see if you entered the wrong directory, and you’re generally going to be working in directories that you have yourself organized.

      • @[email protected]
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        Doesn’t tab completion solve this if there are no alternatives with matching case? sounds like a PBKAC

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      People want their computers to magically know what they want these days. :)

      This specific problem doesn’t exist in oh-my-zsh config though. It will find the directory even if spelling it like this.

      • PupBiru
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        “magically know what they want” aka occasionally set you and your files on fire

        i prefer not fire

    • @[email protected]
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      On Windows filenames are case insensitive at least usually, some people are used to that. But that is poor design for so many reasons, Turkish I being one of them.

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          TIL, thanks. I wonder why they chose to do it this way.

        • @[email protected]
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          One of the most pointlessly annoying things I’ve had to deal with was trying to move a process made for Linux onto a Windows MINGW/cygwin-type environment where one of the scripts would generate “.filename” AND “.FileName” files. :|

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      You could also say that down should not complete to download since those are completely different strings and you shouldn’t expect one to get you the other.

      • FeyterM
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        Sorry, down is a substring of download I don’t get your point either?

          • FeyterM
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            down matches down* because * also includes empty string. Also download matches down*

            D matches D* but d is not matching D* because D is a different character than d.

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              but why do we have to match specifically against substr*? it’s not a law of nature, we could also match against the regex (?i)substr(?-i).*

              not saying that one option is necessarily better, but I don’t see a good reason for which any one of these options would be terrible

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                Because usability. If you have the files down down1 down2 downxyz and download and the user only knows that it was “something with down” it’s best to show the user everything matching “down*” and let the user decide what’s the correct one.

                Also I’m not sure but wouldn’t your expression show everything if only one character would be entered?

                And again I don’t see this solving anything if the entered string actually contains other characters then what’s in the file (D != d)

                Yes one could argue that some form of advanced algorithm or even AI could be used to identify such use case like download and Download but this is programming Humor, not linguisic Humor.

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                  would it not be usable to have completion be case insensitive? I seem to be able to use that… if I only remember “something with down”, I could just as easily forget the capitalization of “down”. maybe I have downloads and Down? why not show everything matching case insensitively and let the user decide what’s the correct one?

                  I didn’t really understand what you thought the regex did incorrectly, but I think the regex works fine, at least for most implementations, anyways what I meant is just a case insensitive version of the regular substring completion, which shouldn’t be too difficult to make.

                  The only thing it solves is the frustration of having to look for a file/directory twice because you didn’t remember it’s capitalization. again, those are different characters just like a do and downloads are different strings, but it can be easier for users if they can just press tab and let the computer fill the part of the name the don’t remember (or don’t want to type).

                  you don’t need an advanced algorithm or and AI, there are many easy ways to make completion case insensitive (like that regex for example). Issues involving names are inherently somewhat linguistic, but either way interactive shells are meant to be (at least somewhat) usable to humans, and as seen by the post, some people would prefer completion to be case insensitive.

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    This is completely unrelated to the meme at hand, but the title just reminded me that for a while, Merriam-Webster mistakenly included the word “Dord” to mean density - because an editor misread the entry for “D or d” as an abbreviation of density.

    Wikipedia

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      I am regularly disappointed that the word games I play on my phone don’t accept ‘dord.’ They should, damn it! One of them accepts Jedi, ffs!