I’m glad to see that none of that was new to me.
It’s a neat website, but it is very America specific.
For example, I’m Australian and I wasn’t taught about slavery or genocide of our native people in high school. Hell, I was taught that the Stolen generation was a misnomer and children were only taken voluntarily or as an act of mercy… I graduated in 2008 so it wasn’t exactly the dark ages. Referring to the planned exterminations of the natives as “battles” and “conflicts” at best was another one. they didn’t even mention the shit that went down in Tasmania.
it’s not just the dumb stuff like food pyramids and taste zones, even in schools today history is being glossed over
I had a history teacher in (US) high school who was not afraid at all to tell his students the whole truth about stuff like this. Its too bad he was the only one not allowed to teach government classes.
I’m also a 2000s Australian high schooler and we had a notorious lack of Australian history taught to us. My school preferred to teach us the histories of pretty much every other country but our own. We didn’t learn a single thing about indigenous history at all, bad or good.
And then we struggle to understand the divide between the yes/no vote on The Voice.
Just FYI. Thanksgiving is the original blatant Cultural Appropriation. Thanksgiving was one of 13 harvest feast that the Native Americans in the area would hold each year. That’s one of the reasons that Canada and The US celebrate it on different days.
We also stole most of their constitution, except the bit about “no law shall be passed that doesn’t directly benefit all the children of the next 7 generations.”
They had existed relatively stabley for 25,000 years, and we fucked it up, stole what we wanted, and trashed the rest.
This is just more misinformation, actually. Thanksgiving festivals were common in Europe before the colonization of America. See Lammas and Horkey. The settlers just continued their traditions in America. The native Americans had similar traditions, but the idea wasn’t anything new to Europeans. Canada’s Thanksgiving has moved around a lot over the years, but its current day was chosen to separate it from Remembrance Day. Its timing has nothing to do with Native holidays.
I don’t who “they” are to really respond to the rest of your comment. You’re kind of painting the Indians with an extremely broad brush. Almost nothing will be true about all the cultures of an entire continent. The Pilgrims primarily interacted with the Wampanoags, but they didn’t have a written language and there’s certainly no evidence their tribe existed for 25,000 years.
There’s a common belief among the Iroquois that it should be considered how actions will affect the seventh generation, but the idea that that’s in their constitution is a common myth. The Iroquois Confederacy itself was only formed about 1450. If you read the Great Law of Peace, it bears no resemblance to the US Constitution. Calling it plagiarism is ridiculous. There are not even any significant references to the Iroquois by Congress in the 1780s. This is another modern myth which originated in the last hundred years. The Iroquois constitution wasn’t even written for a democracy.
Cultural appropriation is as old as culture. The oldest example I can think of is any pagan holidays that Christianity stole.
Pretty accurate. My mom was very much invested in our education and contradicted a lot of this info when I was growing up so I learned the true facts.
“Probably didn’t know we could map the human genome… but in 2003…”
I graduated high school in 2003, and had already heard the human genome had been mapped before entering high school. It may not have been true at the time, but I never once heard that it wouldn’t be completed due to the complexity. lol
Actually quite a few of these were already being taught at my high school before it was more common knowledge. Like the stuff with Columbus and Edison. Which now makes me think my school was actually more progressive than I initially thought.
I went in hoping to learn some cool knew facts and already knew them all. Feels bad man.
Also seemed like more so myths than stuff that was actually taught and then later revised.
Check out Wikipedia’s List of Common Misconceptions.
That was a trip
Yeah, that was my big issue with the sites content. I wanted to find a list of obscure things taught wrong by decade, but all I could track down were a few myths that were shared across many different decades, so it led to the current (and imperfect) result.
I want to try and update the site to be more focused on what you mention - things that were taught and later revised, but the only way I can think to do that so far is track down old textbooks and compare them to what’s known now, which I’m not sure the best/most efficient way to do that, or even where to find textbooks by year.
All this to say, hopefully I’ll be able to improve the site in due time to make it better represent different facts and whatnot
I learned that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. And that busywork and adhering to the rubric is far more important than learning or producing anything useful.
I mean learning to follow a rubric actually was useful for me. Projects have scopes and expectations. Rubrics are those.
Sure, because a margin being off by a quarter inch should be worth more points than the actual content of the paper.
It can cost you a government contract as an adult. Also, it’s learning to format in accordance with instructions. It’s stuff like margins early on, but later it’s stuff like section headings and citations in APA or MLA. The margins are free points that you’re leaving on the table
For most people, yeah. A lot of work is tedious.
When I was in school, Pluto was still a planet. And it still is in my heart!!
You’ve probably seen/heard this song already, but just in case. Pluto is Hot Shit.
Ive heard other songs by him, not this one. Always great tunes.
I’ve never understood this obsession. Odds are you’ve never heard of Ceres, but it was once called a planet. It’s now considered a dwarf planet, like Pluto. Pluto is also less massive than Eris, so if you include Pluto you should also include Eris. None of these have cleared their orbit though.
I understand it’s frequently just a joke, but it’s always rubbed me weird because some people actually became science skeptics because “suddenly Pluto isn’t a planet” or whatever. Really the reason is because the list would get really long if we included everything.
Ceres and Eris weren’t talked about at all when i was in school. They were like a family relative that nobody talks about.
I understand the reason behind the change, its just fun to say that earth kicked them out of the league of planets.
“You heard about Pluto? Messed up, huh?”
Since you seem to be knowledgeable and I’d like to continue discussion, do you think there are “earth like” dwarf planets that could support life?
Probably not. At least not earth like. Planets have to be sufficiently large to maintain an atmosphere.
It may be possible for one like an ice moon to harbor life, but it needs something to generate heat and prevent the ocean from freezing solid.
I suppose there could also be a situation where the planet is sufficiently large to retain an atmosphere, but somehow hasn’t cleared it’s orbit.
Earth like? No. They’re too small to hold any reasonable atmosphere. That doesn’t rule out life, but it’s unlikely. They’re also likely too small to have subsurface oceans or things like that without being tied to a planet and having strong tidal forces squishing it, in which case it’d be a moon not a dwarf planet.
Pluto is still legally a planet in New Mexico and Illinois.
I always thought the holding your head back for a nosebleed was weird. I’d have that awful taste/internal smell of blood in my throat and the occasional gulp of blood clump 🤮
Plus it never seemed to stop it any better than when I’d just hold a tissue to my nose.
Strange. The site doesn’t quite work properly for me. I set my decade, then changed it so I could see my parents and all the myths were the same.
Then I clicked around and they are the same for every decade that I selected.
That’s odd, thanks for pointing it out. I’ll see if I can’t make a fix
I think it’s possible that people are simply confused because the answers are the same for most decades. But one thing I would try maybe is setting the “value” of the different options, since that’s what you’re reading.
As I understand it, if no value is set, the browser should return the name instead, so the way you have it should work, but that may vary depending on browser.
EDIT: I tried to give an example, but lemmy keeps filtering out my explanation even if I enclose it in code tags. Hopefully you know what I mean.
I have a hunch this is it. I’ll try your method and see if it works
Same for me.
Browser is Safari on iPhone 15 Pro Max.
Same
I close the tab and repopen. Same results. It’s like it’s cached and stuck
Same for me. Everything on the list was stuff I already learned was bs so I went back a couple decades and it was the exact same list.
Did anyone else learn that eggs are dairy products? (Meaning, the word ‘dairy’ encompasses both eggs and milk. Not that eggs are somehow produced by cows)
I had attributed that to our fuzzy food categories. Some of which are due to how ingredient usage doesn’t map well to botany, some is just marketing.
I suspect the perception of eggs as dairy could have shifted for practical reasons: lactose intolerance became more visible, and we needed a short way to say milk and milk products, without using the word milk.
Yes! Never really thought to question it though… now I’m re-thinking everything I thought I knew about food clarification!
Yes, and for some odd reason a lot of folks I know who are lactose intolerant are also slightly allergic to eggs…
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Most of the selections give you the exact same outcome. Neat idea, but it needs work.
One thing that’s kind of funny to me about this is the 1940s, which has a lot of the ones from modern times…
You were probably taught at some point that we’d never be able to map out the entire human genome due to its complexity. However, in 2003, we documented the first 92%, and in 2022 we documented the remaining 8%.
I could be wrong (and I’d be super interested to hear if this was the case), but… Were we teaching kids about the human genome before we even knew the structure of DNA and before we knew that DNA carried genetic information? I know we knew DNA existed, and it was probably hypothesized that it could play a roll in genetics before the Hershey-Chase experiments in 1952, but I’m not sure whether most schools would talk much about anything resembling the human genome in the 1940s? What would have been in the curriculum then? It’s actually kind of wild how much the scientific landscape has changed since then.
From what I could trace, the 1940s myths were most likely spread around then (a lot were circa 1930s), just perhaps less commonly. I can definitely attest that at least in the scientific literature then, that was a common enough idea to be inaccurate since, so I’d assume that it was taught to students when approaching biology too. If I’m wrong on this though I can remove this from the site
The human genome one was the one that stood out to me. I’d be curious to see a source from the time if you’ve got one!
I graduated in the 2000’s and the only falsehood from this list I remember being taught was the one about taste buds.
I have definitely been told by nurses to tilt my head back if I had a nose bleed.
Honestly I don’t recall my schools ever having a “school nurse”. I assume most of the teachers were trained in first aid. I went to school in Ontario. Are school nurses an American thing?
Yea I feel like a lot of these came from friends or other sources, and not necessarily from school.
You were probably taught at some point that people in the time of Christopher Columbus all thought the world was flat. However, this is a myth that pervades history - most people knew the earth was a globe! (Source)
Goddamnit! I’ve heard that so often already.
And then I learned separately that even the Greeks already knew not only that Earth was round, but even its circumference at a pretty good accuracy.
These two ‘facts’ genuinely had me thinking we must have lost a ton of knowledge from the Greeks…
The Renaissance was fueled in part by the fall of Constantinople and all of the Greek texts that came with those who fled to Italy.
The real truth is that the catholic church purposefully wanted people stupid and uneducated and that’s why people started believing in the flat earth even after the Greeks. but they don’t teach you that in school!
A lot of their knowledge was from the Sumerians and other ancient civilizations anyway. Sumerians were doing trig thousands of years before the Greeks did; the Greeks’ records were just the ones that were preserved.
There’s a good chance when you were younger, you heard classical music in the classroom to try and make you smarter. However, this is a myth - there is no such link between music and intelligence (or that we can measure intelligence for another matter!)
I’ve never heard anyone claim classical music makes you smarter. I have heard people say it makes you focus better, which is true to some extent. This was one of the first things my therapist recommended I try after being diagnosed with adhd. I can’t imagine it isn’t applicable to people without adhd, although probably to varying degrees depending on the person.
The only thing I take issue with is the specification of classical music. Some people have told me this is because classical music doesn’t have words in it, which would distract you instead of help you focus. Not only can classical music have lyrics, but every other genre of music is perfectly capable of not having lyrics. I’m not sure if its even true that the lyrics would distract you in the first place.
Its pretty clear to me that the only reason people play classical music specifically for this purpose is because it makes them feel smart. You could argue that feeling smart might actually help you get things done, but I dislike the perception of classical music as smart people music in general. It’s just a style of music, like every other. There’s nothing that makes it superior or more sophisticated, its just what Europeans liked a few centuries ago.
They used to sell classical music CDs that claimed to make babies smarter.
I guess its more prevelant than I thought, or at least it used to be. Its very confusing to me how people could fall for that. How little do you have to know about music to think a specific type of it will literally increase your intelligence.
I don’t think it’s completely ridiculous on its face. Obviously we have some connection to music (as in, we like rhythms, we like making specific sounds with instruments or our voices, we seem to get into the beat etc.), so why shouldn’t it be possible for music known for its complexity to have an effect on us?
It seems it doesn’t, but I don’t think it’s something where you know so “little” about music if you consider it a possibility.
