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Democrats this morning were shown a clip of McCarthy on CBS over the weekend trying to blame them for shutdown chaos, Rep. Gerry Connolly, D-Va., said, calling that a clarifying moment for those in the party who might have voted to save him. McCarthy’s decision to blame Democrats on TV this weekend was “one of the most crushingly stupid things somebody could do on the eve of your survival vote,” he told NBC News this afternoon.
I saw that interview clip - the reporter actually started laughing when he tried to blame the Democrats. It really was a stupid thing to say.
Former Fairfax County Commissioner Gerry Connolly? The man who never met a defense contractor he could say no to?
Do you recall where you saw that video?
I don’t remember the exact link I watched, but here’s a clip: https://youtu.be/6sAFFDWaNtY?si=wUaBjyiPv1o8SWzJ
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Man, McCarthy is such a hilariously stupid little bitch. I’m honestly mystified that he thought that gaslighting approach was going to work.
I mean, hasn’t he always been kind of dim? I’ve always thought of him as kind of an older Eric Trump, tbh.
Everyone wants to act like he wants to be speaker…
He gets zero out of it and no matter what happens it hurts his chance retaining his seat or moving up to a higher office.
He probably can’t be happier to step back in the shadows.
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Woke up to see no ones ever heard about a dog that spends it whole life chasing cars, then when one stops realizes it doesn’t know what to do
Speaker is usually end game. For politicians who want it, that’s where their career peaks. Party leaders pretty much always end up unpopular. That’s why Paul Ryan was reluctant to do it and now his career is tanked. John Boehner is a full time lobbyist now. Pelosi will probably never leave Congress.
But no one has ever wanted to be speaker more than Kev. He’s not really smart or popular enough to get any higher anyway. The fact that such a dim witted sad sack got as high as he did is a miracle by itself.
He desperately wanted to be speaker. He was pissed off when it took him many votes to get the role, actively negotiating for the job he should’ve been a shoo in for.
Then even once he had it, he was doing anything he could to appease the freedom caucus, including the unilateral impeachment investigation and the shutdown threat.
In averting the shutdown he essentially resigned, but at that point he was a broken man who was tired of selling his soul to appease the far right. Lets not act like he didn’t do everything’s short of shutting down the government to avoid this.
He’s been trying to get that speaker spot for years, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
The Democrats were discussing working with him. Then he basically told them to fuck off with that interview. So he lost with 8 republican votes. Such bad strategy. It just makes you think, aren’t you supposed to be a politician. You ever politiced in your whole life?
I guess this is the kind of stupid, horrible strategy you can expect from the current Republican party. They don’t have to make deals are negotiate. Their entire platform is scream Democrats bad.
They already made their deal, with Putin.
You’re crazy if you think it’s these guys cutting deals with the big P directly. It’s more like the NRA, the Heritage Foundation, the Carlyle Group, some Koch org, or other billionaires.
The politicians are just the mouth pieces and button pushers.
That 14 republicans went to see Putin is the exception, not the rule. Normally they don’t expose that relationship and keep it going via middlemen.
He eas trying to get the most radical reps back by showing “hey i am one of you, i also wanto to own the libs” But fascists hanging their own to try if they are not radical enough is a story as old as fascism.
He was trying to throw the democrats under the bus because the threat from Gaetz was that he was working with the Democrats. But he forgot the Democrats aren’t complete pushovers, just mostly pushovers, and ended up falling under the bus instead.
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Thoughts and prayers
Please change the title of this post to match the title of the article so that I don’t have to remove it for violating Rule 4. THANK YOU!
This is the title that NBC put when I shared it. It was the title of the post at the time of sharing. I see now that they’ve removed the portion that says “pushed by conservatives”. Is that the part that you would like me to amend?
Yeah it looks like they keep changing it. No worries then. How strange.
Call me old and cynical but I see the inevitable conclusion of this game that the conservatives have been playing being a civil war. This is what they are pysnigb for, this is what they want.
The reason they want this is because, well, they are extremist Christian terrorists and they’re plain evil. Dunno how else to say it. They don’t want gays to have any rights, they want gays converted or dead. They don’t want trans people to have rights and have a remote shred of happiness, they want them dead. They don’t give a shit about abortion, they want more babies in poor and breken families who are easy to manipulate into voting for them. Hell, they don’t want democracy, they want a theocracy.
They watched the handmaid’s tale and thought they were watching an awesome documentary. It contains all the elements that gets them hard; being able to force their religion upon others, being able to control others, rape others…
Imitgt be having a tinfoil hat on right now but I see these extremists come up with a document that wants to do away with democracy and have an all powerful
presidentdictator, that outlines a plan to prohibit porn and even simply books that talk about transgender issues and jail anyone who produces or possesses such evils…These are not nice people, at this point I think it’s safe enough to say that these are dangerous terrorists
I think the US is in much bigger trouble than most people see
For the voters you maybe right. For the leaders, follow the money… It’s as simple as wealth and power.
Keep us “plebs” fighting on stupid shit so we don’t eat the rich. Terrorism recruiting strategy 101. Get people addicted to hate so it can be channeled against the opposition.
At least those are my insights.
Do we actually have to eat the rich? Can we just use them as fertilizer instead?
I mean, I’ll take their cake and share it around to be eaten, lol. Could care less about their bodies.
What really fucked up is the shit in handmaud book that was left out of the show
I never read the books. Is it that bad?
They banish black people to a radio active waste land to kill them off.
Could be me but I thought that was in the show too, no?
I only the first few episodes so they probably added it in latter
I’ve straight up had people say that in the wake of a birthrate crisis, Gilead would be completely justified.
I’m not an anti-natalist, but if the choice really was between Gilead and humanity dying out, I might reconsider.
Let humanity die out.
Imitgt be having a tinfoil hat on right now
No thank you. Literally every holocaust survivor was screaming deja vu with Trump, along with all their descendants who got the bed time stories.
You sound like Marjorie Taylor Greene lol. Things are nowhere as bad as you are projecting, we are all literally laughing at the Republican party (Republican party included).
If anything, this whole ordeal probably just saved us from going to civil war because it showed the country how dangerous this type of MAGA thinking in just 8 representatives can be.
I’ve seen many rather too prominent R party members talking casually about civil war. If that doesn’t at least make you frown then I think you might be a bit naive. Hitler too was a funny guy until he suddenly burst on the world stage. Trump too was laughed at a year before he was president
Elect a clown, expect a circus
What was McCarthy’s plan?
He spent the last week daring Gaetz to file the motion, and once it happened, that was it? No political maneuvering or deal making? Just let the chips fall where they may?
Deep down I don’t think he wanted it anymore. Trying to wrangle this shitshow of a party for 8 months has probably taken a decade off his life.
The same reason Trump couldn’t keep a press speaker for more than 6 months at a time.
I mean, its not actually clear this leads to a good outcome for Gaetz yet. I suspect it doesn’t.
I don’t know about other people but I am hooked into this story and I don’t totally understand why. Been much better about avoiding US politics but this and the indictments are occupying me.
Can’t say that it’s good for my wellbeing. tbd.
That’s just the coming election finding new ways of appealing to you.
I don’t know about other people but I am hooked into this story and I don’t totally understand why.
Well looking in from outside it just is really funny to see the Republicans fight against them self. But that’s much easier when I don’t have to suffer from their incompetence.
We gonna get a carousel like the Conservatives in the UK last year? Will our next speaker outlast a cabbage?
“Will the next Speaker outlast this McDonald’s BigMac Value Meal?”
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No, because those things are so full of salt and other preservatives they’ll last forever.
Are we talking about burgers or republican politicians here?
Some US politicians certainly do look like leathery old salted meat.
Yes
I’m uh… not sure?
On this side of the pond we use Scaramuccis
Conversion ratio, for reference: One Truss is equal to exactly four Mooches.
Americans will use anything but the metric system.
I am absolutely horrified that I know exactly what this sentence means.
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Anyone know who are the 5 most liberal republicans in the house are and if they want to just come over to the side that wants to govern?
Edit: According to a list I found online, those would be: -Fitzpatrick, Brian (PA-1) -Van Drew, Jeff (NJ-2) -Lawler, Mike (NY-17) -Chavez-DeRemer, Lori (OR-5) -Smith, Chris (NJ-4)
I’m never heard of any of them.
Van Drew ran as a Democrat and then flipped parties after Trump’s impeachment. I wouldn’t trust him as far as you could throw him.
Must be why he had a high history of voting with democrats.
I’m never heard of any of them.
That’s probably a good thing Do you want any that you have heard of to be speaker?
As the current situation stands, I’d be suspicious of anyone who would willingly take the job.
Interesting tidbit of information, in Britain the leaders of the Government and Opposition will drag who was ever voted as Speaker to the Speaker’s Chair.
It was the Speaker’s job to tell the Monarch what the House of Commons wanted. If the Monarch didn’t like what the Speaker said, no more Speaker.
Maybe the US needs to adopt that tradition.
Or go the way of the Wicker Man, just burn some random congress member to appease the Speakership God.
Now they’re a complete set of failures!
The Speaker position was but a mere stepping stone to their true calling of being wealthy k street lobbyists.
What happened to Eric Cantor?
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What happened to Paul Ryan?
Saw the first two years of Trump and bowed out before it went full insanity. He may be playing it smart and letting the whole Trump thing go away before running for president. We’ll see.
Paul Ryan is absolutely going to try to step back into politics once Trump is gone, and act like he’s a return to sanity.
He isn’t.
I’m not forgiving Paul Ryan for torpedoing the Hearing Protection Act at the one time in recent decades it had a chance to pass.
Is that the ridiculous bill to legalize silencers? It will never pass. Has zero chance. Hey want to save your ears, here’s an idea, stop setting off explosions near your head as a hobby. The report is a feature not a bug.
What would that bill do?
Lost his primary in 2014 then resigned before finishing the term.
9 years ago… also Boehner. Didnt think politics could get crazier. How young and naive I was.
Man, the GOP have really let themselves be gutted by their most extreme members.
Yeah man. I’m running out of popcorn here.
pulling every control knob they can find on the Titanic
Oh no.
Anyways…
Could have consequences for many people in the US. McCarthy at least wanted to keep things running even if he was extreme. The next guy may not.
He wanted to keep things running about as much as any other Republican. He was literally blaming Democrats when shutting down the government is pretty much a normalized annual thing from the Republicans at this point.
In the long run, that will cost the GOP and they will lose more power.
Hate to say it but I doubt it. The people voting republican bought heavily into the idea that McCarthy was some kind of traitor and started calling him a RINO. They seem to live for this kind of chaos. They want things their way, and if they can’t have it the only alternative is burning it all down. Compromise is completely unacceptable to them hence McCarthy’s ouster.
I hope so but that’s far from certain. Unless the chaos from this is particularly memorable AND it causes relatively little harm to the American people, I don’t think that’s likely.
We’re still over a year from the election. People will barely remember this and it probably will factor minimally in their decisions in 2024.
This will all be forgotten next month, what won’t be is Donny’s endless court cases. Anything the rest of the republicans do will be overshadowed by Trump’s legal antics. Their only hope is to detangle themselves from him, but that ain’t happening.
Maybe. It remains to be seen how much impact those court cases will have. Polls right now show a dead heat which is concerning. But maybe voters are just not paying attention yet.
I don’t want to get overconfident because the numbers are still scary, but I am not sure how much I trust polls. Most of them are unsolicited phone calls that just ask you who you plan to vote for and some basic demographic details. Young people tend to not answer calls from unrecognized numbers.
They generally adjust for that kind of thing. It’s always possible the polls are off but it’s tough to predict which direction. They’re usually only a little off so right now it’s safe to conclude the race is close-ish. But a lot can change in a year. It’s hard for me to believe people won’t reject more Trump insanity when the time comes. But people do lots of things I find hard to believe.
Well, it will only be forgotten if we get a swift resolution.
Next month, there needs to be another vote to avert another government shutdown, as the recent resolution was only a 1-month stay of execution. If the house is still busy arguing over who the Speaker should be until the 11th hour, there will be no way to avoid the shutdown.
Time will tell I suppose, this is going to be a long year.
I want to keep this as civil as possible. The world would be a better place without Republicans in it.
Delete conservatism and religion.
If you deleted religion would conservatism even survive a few generations?
There are always going to be people who like how things are or who preferred how things were, regardless of whether it was actually good for them or not.
That isn’t what political conservatism means though. Political conservatism is running the government into the ground infavor of private business interests while also villifying minority groups and idolizing authoritarian.
It has nothing to do with being conservative about changes.
Well, it’s supposed to be about conservative changes.
But instead it’s exactly as you described.
You are describing Neoconservative and/or Trumptard “conservative” policies. In the political textbooks, Conservative does mean the ones who want to preserve traditional ways of doing things, conserving money by reducing wasteful spending, conserving our military forces by not engaging in wars of foreign intervention.
That type of textbook Conservative is a lot harder to find in government since 9/11 happened and turned America into the shit version that we have now.
But it’s religion that brainwashes a huge portion of them to blindly follow and obey even when it hurts them or isn’t good for them.
Take away religion and the conservative base vanishes. They wouldn’t be able to win elections.
Religion no longer blocks the way to progress, things improve, people don’t get sucked into the conservative rabbit hole the same way.
Slowly but surely, at least what we consider conservatives today and in the past would cease to exist.
I wouldn’t be so confident that the removal of religion would be such a panacea for humanity. These social structures developed for a reason and things would likely appear to fill the vacuum. People already raise up companies and cults of personality in place of formal religion as it is. Even just being a republican party supporter has a certain degree of cult like devotion.
If your view of a conservative is a person of deep religious conviction, then sure, I guess.
In other words, humans love to simp.
Humans collectively have a lot of pent up craziness, angst, and existential terror… and it’s got to go somewhere.
I don’t think all conservatives are deeply religious, but it’s the religious that prop them up. So much hate and death in human existence stems from religion. That hate breeds hate even outside the religious, quickening its spread.
If it was gone, humanity would finally be able to begin the healing process.
I have no qualms about the dissolution of religious structures, but I feel like you’re underestimating humanity’s ability to self-sabotage when envisioning such a rose tinted portrayal of a post-religion society.
It would be a serious blow at minimum
Have you like looked at Japan or any communist country. Japan is 62% non-religious and is highly social conservative. Czechia is the least religious country in the world but they also obviously have a conservative politics.
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I love that quote, that’s so accurate. Especially with how many funerary schools are primarily Buddhist in Japan along with the vast majority of their burials. It’s actually uncommon for a mortician to prepare a body for a wake.
I had a Japanese boss tell me the state religion of Japan is “being Japanese”. That struck me as being so very true during my few months living there.
It’s a very regimented culture, isn’t it? Everything guided by ceremony and tradition, you’d think half of it was religious in nature.
Could be remnants from past religious values and teachings?
This says Japan has at least 70% of the population following religious practices in 2019?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/237609/religions-in-japan/
The majority of Japanese adhere to Shintoism, a traditional Japanese religion focusing on rituals and worship at shrines. In 2019, around 70 percent of the total population of Japan participated in Shinto practices.
They can take a long walk off a short pier for all I care
Without all authoritarians in it, in fact.
