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  • @[email protected]
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    332 years ago

    Oh, are we acting surprised because we forgot all the people that got screwed exactly like this on Kindle books in 2009?

    Welcome to digital media. If you can’t play it without some company’s say do, you don’t own it.

  • @[email protected]
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    32 years ago

    This isn’t about games, but Ross Scotts video about games as a service and how companies are able to pull your access from your paid products and my man has even been looking into ways to make it illegal

  • HiramFromTheChi
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    1572 years ago

    It’s easy to scoff at this whole “You will own nothing, and you will be happy” phrase, but it’s really gone too far already.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      I think it makes sense in some areas. For example private ownership of cars is completely unsustainable in the literal sense of the word.

      But when it comes to digital goods, clearly it’s all for the profit of the media cartels. There’s no justification.

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      502 years ago

      I’m really tired of hearing “you don’t own it you own a license to it” like it’s some revelation for people complaining. We’re aware that the system has been constructed to benefit media companies at the expense of consumers.

      To be honest; I never really bought the argument anyway. From a legal standpoint I don’t give half a shit. From a layman’s standpoint it’s bullshit. Nowhere do they use terms like “rent” or “lease”. They explicitly use terms like “buy” and it’s not until the fine print that the term license even comes up.

      They know they’re pissing on you and telling you it’s raining and the goobers doing their legwork by repeating the sentence like they just came up with it annoy me to no end.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      This sounds worse than communism. At least communism said “everyone will own everything”.

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      We’ve been screaming about it for 20+ years now and no one seems to be listening.

      I’m hoping that someone will tie digital ownership rights to a block chain sooner or later and offer me movies, music, games and books that I can actually own resale rights to - but as publishers are already drinking from the rent-seeking model teat where every single license is a new sale I’m not terribly optimistic about that particular future.

      • @[email protected]
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        372 years ago

        Adding blockchain into the mix changes nothing. Whether your digital ownership is stored in their centralized database or a distributed database, they still have control over everything because they’re the ones streaming it to you. They can just as well block your access & block resale.

        The only way to actually digitally own something is to have a full DRM-free copy of it (ianal though this still might not be enough to allow resale).

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          Adding blockchain into the mix changes nothing. Whether your digital ownership is stored in their centralized database or a distributed database, they still have control over everything because they’re the ones streaming it to you. They can just as well block your access & block resale.

          So you push digital goods to a robust public platform like IPFS and tie decryption to a signed, non-revokable, rights token that you own on a block chain. It’s a transparent and consumer friendly model compared to what we accept now. I know people are over block chain hype but this type of publishing model is where it’s actually useful.

          Transferable digital rights tokens and chain of custody are places where block chain tech actually works.

          Edit: People seem really hung up on crypto as currency which I’m not asking for at all. I’m asking for control, ownership and resale rights to digital goods I’ve paid for which isn’t possible at all on current digital publishing platforms. I appreciate that people hate crypto shit, that’s fine, but at least read the content you’re replying to.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          Right, either you have the file on your computer, or you don’t. You still can’t legally resell the file because that’s piracy. Computer files can be copied pretty much endlessly.

      • @[email protected]
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        462 years ago

        block chain

        No. Never. Stop asking. Crypto is not a currency and blockchain is a solution in search of a problem.

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        Keep it in your hard drive and carry it with you, this was not a hard problem 20 years ago, but we’re being conditioned to regression in expectations and functionality. Better than yet another blockchain overkill and works offline.

        PS: just like the creeptobros say: “not in your disk, not your file.” or something like that.

  • m3t00🌎
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    download files and store elsewhere. music mp3s anyway. never tried their vids. mostly crap

  • Phoenixz
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    842 years ago

    Mofos

    Return me ALL my money for that, fuck your girftcard coupon shit! That is the least you can do and still doesn’t change the fact that I can’t buy to own anything there, so why the fuck would I?

    Jellyfin and torrents for the win!

  • @[email protected]
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    42 years ago

    At least you got a refund. I lost count of the number of apps and games I purchased from the Google Play store that got unlisted / removed and I didn’t get any refunds. Granted it’s not Google removing the app but it’s the developers unlisting it for whatever reason. A small heads up before said unlisting would have been nice.

  • @[email protected]
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    262 years ago

    I really hope it’s a surprise to no one. Having full control over the access to any media is the core principle behind any online-only, DRM-based service.

  • @[email protected]
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    502 years ago

    If people suddenly collectively understood they’re paying for basically nothing it would probably spur large-scale revolution.

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    Wow. This is why owning DVDs is better. And if you can’t buy, download via torrents. Imagine these bastards rolling up to your home and reclaiming a movie you physically purchased. We gave them too much power. Time to withdraw it. Convenience is not worth this shit. Get uncomfortable and get your entertainment away from these streamers who don’t give customers what they paid for.

    DVD rental stores could surely make a comeback given these new developments. Libraries still loan movies as well. Remember, Barnes & Noble didn’t run all independent bookstores out of business. And after Amazon savaged Barnes & Noble, Amazon Books suddenly came into existence (2015 - 2022). Greed driven corporations aren’t the answer.

  • LazaroFilm
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    1072 years ago

    You don’t own the video file. You own access to their video file, which they also don’t own, they only own the right to distribute it. If their distribution contract ends and doesn’t gets renewed, then they can’t let you access the file. At least they refunded you. This system is one of the issues with the ongoing writers and actors strikes. Amazon can decide to stop making a video available, which cuts all dividends revenues to actors and writers. So having a video available for you to watch costs money to Amazon (or Netflix or Max…) but not enough content makes users unsubscribe, so they ride that thin line for maximized revenue. This means that older movies that aren’t blockbusters get dropped in favor of new content. Now new content doesn’t means good content, remember, it needs to be as cheap as possible. Aaand this is why steaming companies are spiraling down and everything is going to shit. Filmmaking is an art form turned into an industry. But art isn’t about maximized profit, it’s about art first. But you can’t make that art without millions of dollars and that requires the art to take a step back to maximize profit, but not too far back. It’s a really big issue in the film and entertainment industry.

    — I’m an IATSE local 600 camera operator.