• magnetosphere
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    92 years ago

    As tired as I am of hearing about Twitter and Musk, stories of his costly failures always entertain!

  • @[email protected]
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    202 years ago

    At the point if time, we’re just generating free traffic for him by continuously reminding they exist.

    Just let Twitter die.

  • 👁️👄👁️
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    2 years ago

    Twitter Blue was a failure, and they want to double down on it? Hopefully there’s a mark on their profile so they get bullied again.

  • @[email protected]
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    162 years ago

    Honestly, I don’t know what Jack Dorsey is waiting for. The instant Bluesky leaves its closed beta, basically everyone on Twitter is gonna jump ship, and Twitter’s transformation into Truth Social 2.0 will be complete.

    The iron has been hot for a long while. What’s he waiting for?

    • Zeragamba
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      112 years ago

      Infrastructure I think. The last few waves of invites have brought instability to the system if i recall

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      Only reason I have twitter is there isn’t a bot feed to mastodon for the POTUS account. All my other feeds (nfl, ESPN, etc…) are being copied or are publishing directly there.

      Note, I don’t reply, like, comment or do anything to the feed, I just want to get the news “breaking” or otherwise

  • @[email protected]
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    492 years ago

    I can’t see why you’d pay for a service that still had ads? It’s why I’ve never gotten cable - if I’m paying, I don’t want ads.

      • @[email protected]
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        You look at it backwards. It’s ‘watch ads to avoid paying’.

        Paying is the default way to buy something.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          Well, it’s the default way of paying for physical objects and professional services.

          It hasn’t really been the default way of paying for online services.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            That’s the problem if you want professional online services. Being the product should be the weird option.

      • Optional
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        42 years ago

        It’s the pinnacle of modern media. Why w- nevermind.

      • @[email protected]
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        222 years ago

        Why? Ads are one method of payment, cash is another. The weird model is paying more to remove ads. There should just be two tiers, free with ads, or paid without ads. If t former doesn’t make sense, only offer the latter.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          Ads are one method of payment, cash is another.

          This might be true if the cash payment was equal to the ad revenue per person, but it isn’t.

          Ad-revenue per person would be a few cents per month, but even if it were $1 per user month, paying $4 or whatever to remove the ads means the ads are punitive. Pay the subscription or we will drive you nuts with shitty ads.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 years ago

            And in that case you probably have an argument against using that service, or perhaps monopolistic practices if they are a natural monopoly. For example, if your energy company charged you $1k to remove ads on your meter, I would completely agree that it’s an abuse of their position because it’s unrealistic for you to switch to another provider and there’s no way the ads are saving you that much off your bill.

            My point is that ads should be allowed as a substitute for payment for services. Ad-free tiers should be an approximation of the cost to provide the service to you, with a reasonable amount of profit on top, as should the approximation of ad-revenue. In other words, those two numbers should be largely in-line with each other.

            The main issue I have with ad-supported services is that they’re frequently a complete violation of privacy. In order to increase the value per impression for ads, they need information about you to serve relevant ads, which means they’re likely selling your data to advertisers (or a third party that handles ad personalization). IMO, there should be strict laws around that form of data sharing since that can present a very real security risk to the customer. That’s why I’m interested in projects like Brave (just an example, I dislike Brave) that seek to provide ads without the personal data leakage (i.e. Brave could do the personalization inside the browser, and advertisers would only know how many impressions they got and the level of personalized matching for those impressions).

            I’m not against the idea of ad-supported tiers, but there should be strict rules surrounding them.

            • @[email protected]
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              32 years ago

              That’s fine, your position is reasonable and I can accept that.

              Over the years I’ve become more and more opposed to advertising of any form. It makes me very grumpy - probably unreasonably so.

              I understand that services need to make money but $10 / month for something like twitter just seems absurd to me.

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                12 years ago

                Oh absolutely. I think Twitter should be free for personal use and funded by commercial entities that use it since their posts are essentially ads themselves.

                Basically, if you want to be authenticed (the blue check mark or similar), you should pay some recurring bill, like a payment per tweet or a monthly bulk cost. And in return, Twitter will periodically verify that you are you and notify you if your account is likely compromised. There can be different tiers for different types of users, from journalists to politicians to influencers.

                I don’t use Twitter currently, and I certainly won’t start when they introduce subscriptions.

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          12 years ago

          I want to see a service with ads that has a subscription and at the end of every month they distribute all ad revenue to the subscribers.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Hulu has somehow gotten away with it from the start, plenty of people don’t seem to mind. In my mind, if the network with greys anatomy has it in their contract that they are exempt from ad-free, what’s stopping other companies from leveraging their shows for that sweet ad rev?

  • @[email protected]
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    52 years ago

    Musk wants to create a super app like WeChat. He needs credit cards first. He is turning Twitter into his old X.

    It’s the Apple app ecosystem without people willing to hand over credit card information for iTunes music. Apple won the mobile phone market because they had customers willing to pay for apps.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      All they can do is take features away and charge users to put them back. I can’t wait until it dies.

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      I prefer not using X at all, which is free and improves my mental health. That strategy worked well before Musk bought it too. I recommend trying it.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        If it’s about my mental health it’s lemmy I need to quit. My twitter feed is entirely a positive one and I spend less than hour a week there anyways.

  • katy ✨
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    1112 years ago

    this is basically the equivalent of “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    42 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    According to Bloomberg’s source who attended a Thursday call with X and debt holders that helped Musk finance the acquisition, the company is currently testing Basic, Standard, and Plus variations of the existing premium plan, which currently starts at $8 per month.

    However, according to details previously discovered in the X app, the entry-level Basic plan will not reduce the number of ads that users see on the platform, while the Standard tier will show half as many ads — one of the benefits that premium subscribers currently enjoy.

    X has not revealed when these new membership tiers will be rolled out in testing or general availability, or what additional benefits (blue check, edit, etc) each plan might include.

    During the call, X CEO Linda Yaccarino said that the company’s advertising, data licensing, and subscription revenue is growing quarter-over-quarter “in the high single digits,” and repeated claims from last week’s Code event that around 90 percent of X’s top advertisers have returned to the platform.

    X’s finances have been a hot topic for discussion since Elon Musk purchased the company for $44 billion last year (it’s been valued at just a third of that price since).

    Musk previously announced plans to boost revenue and eradicate bots by moving to an entirely subscription-based service that would charge every user on the platform.


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