• @[email protected]
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    52 years ago

    Fuck Palestine fuck those terrorists, they show their evil faces again. Israel needs to eradicate those terrorists.

  • Gazumi
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    292 years ago

    This is a tragedy, but similar to the invasion of Ukraine with Isreal being Russia.

    • BabyWah
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      Wow, no one is going to mention what Israel is doing to these people? I don’t agree with terrorists, but the replies should be more nuanced than ‘bad Palestines’.

      In my eyes, as an outsider following the news, Israel has pushed Palestinians to the brink by killing Palestine civilians, seizing more of their land AGAIN and having a dictator for a president that just changed the constitution…

      If you take people’s land, your military kills children, films and laughs about it, push them into poverty, and then come for their homes… Sometimes this is the only way to say ‘enough’.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        I think the tragedy is that this goes both ways: if a group of people that just escaped a genocide, gets attacked by all its neighboring countries as soon as they have a state of their own, are explicitly threatened with extinction and are attacked over and over again by military actions and terrorist attacks… sometimes people will try to assert absolute dominance in order to try to ensure their own physical safety above everything else.

        Note: I am very much not justifying any of the above. I just think that it’s not very surprising that people act this way, and that Hamas & Co of course know this - just as the Israeli government & Co know how people react to their actions. In my opinion neither the Israeli government (and orthodox settlers etc.) nor the Hamas (and similar groups) are honestly trying to unfuck the situation.

    • @[email protected]
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      152 years ago

      Hamas’s missiles directed towards Israeli civilians and you choose to compare Israel to Russia. Your propoganda is showing…

      • ???
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        72 years ago

        Even if Hamas is wrong (and they are wrong to attack civilians), the comparison between Russia and Israel in terms of being an occupying power is still a totally valid comparison. I think this is what your point is missing.

      • @[email protected]
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        132 years ago

        Do you consider Hamas the aggressor in the overall context of the Israel- Palestinian conflict?

          • @[email protected]
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            32 years ago

            Is it amoral? Yes, for sure 100%. But as a global community, we barely punish those who engage in this kind of tactic, and when we do, it’s for some kind of political theater. More Palestinian civilians will die in this conflict by a factor, if you’re going to criticize Hamas for this, I’d like to see the same standard applied to IDF.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 years ago

              I’m not saying either side is innocent, but you cannot compare this to the invasion of Ukraine since Ukraine does not deliberately target Russian civilians.

              • @[email protected]
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                12 years ago

                Wow. I apologize for the confusion. I absolutely do not believe these two situations are comparable. My bad.

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              So if Native Americans fired rockets on e.g. Corpus Christi, Texas, they would have no responsibility at all for this action?

              I am not denying the responsibility of “the colonizers”, I think other people can also have some responsibility.

              • @[email protected]
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                92 years ago

                They’d be justified.

                The point is to not condemn the oppressed without regard for their oppression.

                • BraveSirZaphod
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                  52 years ago

                  So just to be clear, if a Native American went up to you, told you that he was going to shoot you because your ancestors stole his land, and then murdered you, you have no qualms about this?

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                  2 years ago

                  Where in this thread did someone “condemn the oppressed without regard for their oppression”?

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                  They’re not being oppressed if they choose to live the why they do. At some point the drug addict needs to come to terms with the fact they are the ones causing their self harm. They could compromise and stop their killing/ bloodshed to build a peace but they don’t. Continuously attacking is one of the most dumbass moves they keep making. I’m out of sympathy and patience for these idiots. Keep crying but do nothing. Other parts of the Arab world have moved on and made peace with Israel. The Palestinians only have excuses and children to sacrifice at this point.

    • MeanEYE
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      42 years ago

      Never seen rape and beheading of children to be part of “defense” plan of any country.

        • MeanEYE
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          22 years ago

          You do realize there’s no “trying” part if they wanted to? Just look at previous conflicts between these two sides and see how disproportionate the power is.