@LMAO is flooding the site with random communities because they’re salty about being banned for claiming too many community names. They claim they’re trying to “fuck your entire site up” but I imagine it’s a relatively quick fix to delete all the communities they’re creating, LMAO.
don’t think there’s too much overhead adding spam-check and anti-troll software to lemmy right
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Kick them all out. No exceptions.
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your comment history is suspicious af.
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Thank you for the completely unbiased opinion, Black Conservative.
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@ruud@lemmy.world I’m sure you’re tremendously busy already, just want to make sure you’re aware of this.
https://lemmy.world/post/941618
best option is info@lemmy.world
This is exactly the best option as it will create a ticket instantly. Thanks for pointing this out here
Thanks, sent them an email
Can probably be mitigated by taking some sort of entropy threshold on the level of human language - but then the next step is Markov chain generators or chatGPT spam.
Looking at his profile
Since you banned my main for claiming community names, I’ll just fuck your entire site up instead. Much love, Angled
Yeah can’t imagine why an instance admin might not want this insufferable piece of shit in their instance.
Maybe admins should restrict community creation for a few days.
That would be giving these assholes exactly what they want.
Maybe, but what’s the alternative? Other trolls seeing this vulnerability and just letting it run?
I would venture that these assholes just want maximum carnage. Requiring admin approval for a few days while a fix is pushed would mitigate that carnage.
I mean, purging them likely isn’t taking that much admin time?
One click, and bam, all their communities, usernames, etc. etc. are gone.
Idk, seems like this is quite a pivotal time with an influx of users. Be a shame to have the potential growth in community go to waste.
Idk, seems like this is quite a pivotal time with an influx of users. Be a shame to have the potential growth in community go to waste.
Counterpoint: we don’t need growth if the cost is the destruction of a good thing. Guided growth is smarter and more sustainable especially when users like the subject of this post aren’t unique. There are a lot of small, mean-spirited people out there who will take a dump all over everything the moment they can.
True, but they could limit community creation to, say, five a day. That would be more than the vast majority of people would legitimately need.
Unfortunately that would mean that real communities wouldn’t be created since that would be used up by someone creating spam communities. Though, maybe limiting the amount of communities that could be made by one account in a certain amount of time? What about verification by email (to send a coherent reason) to the admins to create a community.
I was meaning five per day for a given user. That’s why I said that would be plenty for most individuals - most people aren’t legitimately going to want to create more than five communities in a day, and for them it wouldn’t be a hardship to wait a day for another five. But for people like this guy, trying to flood the instance with endless/pointless communities, it would cut that down to a manageable number.
Oh 😅 I’m sorry for misunderstanding. 5 communities per day in a week is 35 communities, which I also thought was a lot. Where do we send our suggestions to the admins though?
I asked that question a while back and was told to use their git site.
Yeah but do you want new users to see this sort of carnage?
An power user in this case still can MP admins, to ask the creation of the community “manually”.
Growth for the sake of growth is why reddit and everything else crashes and burns.
Eeh, federated platforms add a lot more moving parts to the mix. Since there isn’t a single Lemmy that is all of Lemmy, people can always move to another instance if this one goes to shit.
There are always going to be assholes who abuse the system, always. I agree with the other poster that now is a good time to get communities up and running. People like LMAO have nothing but time to be internet douchebags and find ways around the system.
Verifying community creation wouldn’t inconvenience users, though it will place a lot of work on the admins having to sift through spam. Limiting the amount of community creations would essentially mean that it will all be used up by spam communities, though.
He got his fee-fees hurt because others didn’t like that he was trying to be a selfish asshole (shocking) so now he thinks it’s justice to destroy a site and affect multiple people who didn’t even do anything to him. 😂 jfc
I bet it’s really spez, same energy
They need to start email verification. It will slow the trolls down.
Doesn’t help too much, you can generate infinite email accounts with gmail for an example.
Manual acceptance of each and every user helps, but it’s not sustainable.
Not if you filter out . and + in gmail addresses.
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It has similar function as “+”
email@gmail.com e.mail@gmail.com em.ail@gmail.com ema.il@gmail.com emai.l@gmail.com etc.
In any address. Most email services support + and a few support . as well.
Sure but in gmail addresses, the dots are ignored, and anything after the + is also ignored. You can add as many dots as you want and will still go to the same address.
I use .in my email addresses with no malicious intent
Don’t even need that, 1 click temporary email boxes everywhere
True, but a common thing websites do is block those domains, at least the easier to find ones. Nearly nobody blocks gmail.
You could block using + in a Gmail address.
Some sites do this and it’s annoying. A better check is to compare the part before the + if it’s Gmail.
You can add a
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anywhere in the username part of a GMail address.u.ser.na.m.e@gmail.com
is the same asusername@gmail.com
Yeah, that’s probably better.
That’s what I used… I have no intention of being a troll or asshole, but I don’t want social media like this platform linked to me IRL and never have.
Personally I just use a dumping ground email address. Just an address i use for any website I don’t particularly trust that I never look at unless I know there’s a confirmation email waiting for me
lol what a dork
Why even delete those communities? Just let’em have their three megabytes of database space that gets never used and be done with it.
Because they will show up in the communities list and be propagated (in the list) across federated instances.
I can imagine that in the next few days we’ll discover everything the devs didn’t think about prior to this. Part of the fun.
Moderation on decentralized networks is way harder than otherwise, which was already a constant battle.
I’m sure the devs thought of an attack but it gets deprioritized over fixing bugs and performance. I don’t think Lemmy was ready for Reddit’s collapse the way mastodon was with Twitter.
Hopefully we get the same community of moderation tools springing up that Reddit had. Bonus: they can actually be integrated into the base tooling this time!
Mastodon was far from ready for the first Twitter wave either. And there’s also the question of whether the fediverse model can actually handle this much traffic, there’s a lot of inefficient back and forth messaging between instances that’s essentially baked into the protocol, something that’s the opposite of what you need to do in a distributed system.
Also the things they thought of, but haven’t been a priority to address until it became a problem.
As General Patton famously said: no social media website survives contact with its trolls.
This is who we’re leaving behind at Reddit. Salty little baby
As someone who’s new to lemmy, could someone explain who is in charge of policing and moderating community names like this? With reddit it’s obv Admins but who has that level of power here?
The instance owner/admins are in charge of that. They’re kind of equivalent to the Reddit admins, except if you don’t like the instance admins you can go to a different Lemmy instance but you can’t move to a new Reddit instance. Also, community names are unique to each instance, so !support@lemmy.world and !support@lemm.ee share the same name but are two separate communities in two separate instances.
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Anyone can be the god of their own instance. Doesn’t mean other instances need to federate and listen to whatever it spits out. I imagine some metric of quality will come for instance admins to decide who to federate with. Hopefully with a mechanism to allow small new instances to join and thrive so it doesn’t devolve into only the big servers trusting each other
No. He’s creating communities (formerly subreddits) within the lemmy.world community. Ruud should still have authority over them.
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No,
instances: servers // communities: subreddits
Instances admins have power over communities mods.
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Basically, this guy was spamming communities not instances. Basically he spammed a ton of subreddits. The guys who run the instance are above him and can just ban him and delete all of his communities.
Also the admins for this instance
Every instance has its own admins.
drop * from communities where creator == @lmao
This is the way
delete from
ftfy
And, we presume, ban the originating IP. This doesn’t seem like a sophisticated attack so it’s probably just a single account rather than an IP hopping VPN user. Sucks that Ruud has to play whack-a-mole (whack-a-lemming?) with this idiot.
What a loser, LMAO
Truly, having some spam text in a box in the corner of the homepage “fucks the entire site up”. Truly.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my site is ruined.