• @merthyr1831@lemmy.world
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    122 years ago

    The UK also recently tried banning VPNs. It simply isn’t possible. However, it’ll make prosecuting dissidents and people with good opsec a lot easier because they can just say “well you might not have anything incriminating on your hard drives but you DO have a VPN client” and use that to get a tiny victory against someone who would otherwise go free.

    • @r4start@lemmy.world
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      12 years ago

      Russia, China & UAE are quite successful with blocking VPN’s. I wouldn’t be so sure that in near future UK or any EU country censorship or heavy restrict VPN’s.

  • CringyMikami
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    2 years ago

    It’s not a total ban of VPNs, I went to read a bit on the subject (easier since I’m french), it’s just that some politicians came up with a few amendments relative to the bill called “SREN” which very literally translates to “Securing and regulating the digital space”. As you may guess that bill also ticks the “child porn” box as a reason why it came to existence.

    One amendment proposes to ban mobile VPNs that do no comply with European or french regulations in the context of app stores. So it’s only on mobile, nothing about desktops.

    Of course it’s inapplicable in practice.

    Several amendements already failed due to backlash, one was about preventing people from posting on social networks if they use a VPN.

    • @Fjor@lemm.eeOP
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      22 years ago

      Yeah was also just listening to a podcast about this. So yeah not a straight total ban. But from what I heard, it would ban people from using VPNs outside of Europe, which obviously is not OK.

  • spiderkle
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    102 years ago

    If all VPNs are banned, french companies are fucked. Any remote login happens via VPN.

    • iByteABit [he/him]
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      12 years ago

      Any remote login happens via VPN.

      I don’t support this, but you don’t need VPNs for remote logins. SSH exists, it’s just that VPNs are a better solution for companies among other things.

  • GreenBottles
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    42 years ago

    I just wonder how the hell they plan on enforcing things like this

  • DarkThoughts
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    202 years ago

    It’s not just France, it’s EU based politics too. There’s certain liberal & center right parties & politicians that heavily push for shit like this, just like the chat control crap.

  • @HeChomk@lemmy.world
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    1472 years ago

    Literally impossible to enforce. Any business worth a damn uses vpns. Blocking such would be bad for business. Also, ssl vpns are as far as I’m aware, indistinguishable from regular https traffic.

    • TigrisMorte
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      462 years ago

      They’ll ban the known IPs of any well known VPN provider. It’ll not really affect 90% of VPN users that are tech literate, but the 80% of the People that are Tech illiterate shall be punished and the Politicians shall pretend it works. This is how all the Countries blocking VPNs do it now.

      • @loutr@sh.itjust.works
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        212 years ago

        Nah it’s far more stupid than that. They want to ban some (most?) VPN apps from the iOS and Android stores. You would still be able to sign up for any VPN from your browser, and manually set it up on your phone.

        That’s the current proposal anyway, soon they’ll understand how moronic it is and either double down and try to “fix” if or quietly drop it.

  • dinckel
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    562 years ago

    This kind of nonsense is only mandated out of fear, but in reality it’s not only colossally stupid, but also really difficult to enforce. Any proper business uses one. Anyone who wants privacy, and ad network anonymity uses one. There’s plenty of other uses people would want one, obviously

    • Eggyhead
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      132 years ago

      I just think it’s corporate interests, not fear, that’s driving this. Terror and Children are just the easiest excuse to ensure a lot of people go blindly along with it.

      • dinckel
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        32 years ago

        There aren’t any real corporations left in Russia, that aren’t either government owned, or actively circlejerking around the president for any praise. But otherwise you’re right

        • Chaotic Entropy
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          32 years ago

          Oligarchy seems to work out pretty well for the rich elite of Russia, until they piss off Putin.

          • dinckel
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            12 years ago

            Yeah, historically that’s been the case. Climb fast, fall faster

  • halva
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    182 years ago

    Russia isn’t prohibiting the use of VPNs but it is making it increasingly more headache inducing (protocol based blocking, ip bans of popular vpn providers).

  • Tammo-Korsai
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    432 years ago

    I fear that the UK might try to join this list not just out of authoritarianism, but out of a fear of technology they do not understand. Worse yet, the Conservative party once threw around the idea of banning encryption in its entirety and acted like WhatsApp is only used by criminals.

    • GreatAlbatross
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      222 years ago

      Ironic, considering how many members of the cabinet are being served court orders for their WhatsApp messages.

      • Chaotic Entropy
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        42 years ago

        It’s almost like certain members of the cabinet associate encrypted messages with misdeeds because of all the misdeeds they do through these apps. If I were a sceptical man.