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Close watchers of the MAGA movement have been chronicling the alarming escalation of both violent intimidation and overt white supremacy in recent weeks. Donald Trump, of course, now begs his followers on a nearly daily basis to murder his perceived enemies. But the rhetoric is spiraling, with people like Fox News host Greg Gutfeld openly calling for civil war. Meanwhile, Christopher Rufo — a right hand man for Gov. Ron DeSantis, R-Fla. — recently hosted a forum that pushed establishment Republicans to build a “bridge” to the so-called “dissident right,” including some open white nationalists. He may get his wish, as one of the top contenders for Speaker of the House, Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., described himself as “David Duke without the baggage.”
The radicalism of the right is growing as the GOP careens swiftly towards nominating Trump as their presidential candidate, despite his 91 felony indictments in four jurisdictions. But, as anyone who has studied cults can tell you, they never limit their escalations to violence or hateful ideologies. There’s almost always a weird sexual component, as cult leaders come up with ever stranger rules and regulations to control the sexual expression of their followers.
The MAGA movement is no different. The cult-like following of Trump always had an unsettling mix of incel-inflected misogyny, coupled with a homophobia that is somehow also homoerotic. But it’s been rapidly getting worse in recent months. Even more frightening is how determined they are to inflict their sexual hang-ups on the rest of the country.
Gutfeld, who claims to be a “comedian,” has long positioned himself on Fox News as an everyman character. He’s meant to make audiences feel that normal people can be Republicans, and not just Bible-hugging weirdoes or camo-clad militia nuts. But, as his civil war rant makes clear, lately he’s been channeling a more David Koresh-esque vibe, and invariably that comes with some sexual weirdness.
Last week, Gutfeld hosted a far-right figure named Hotep Jesus, who is known primarily for being an apologist for white supremacists and anti-semites. Hotep Jesus, whose real name is Bryan Sharpe, was on the show to promote a “dating” blog that is, in actuality, propaganda for domestic abuse. As Media Matters chronicled, Sharpe regards it as a form of adultery if women are “allowed” to work or vote. “Imagine guts, sweat, and tears shed only to watch your woman get dolled up only to prance around another man’s office while he gives her marching orders,” Sharpe writes, claiming, “Women WANT to give up control of their life,” and that they only vote, work, or otherwise make decisions because of “the pressure of modern society.”
This wasn’t a one-off, either. Gutfeld recently joined the chorus of right wing voices defending Russell Brand, after the British “comedian” was accused by multiple women of sexual violence and rape. Gutfeld applauded a teacher who got arrested for having sex with a 16-year-old student. And he claimed men only cry because of “substances in the water that reduce testosterone.”
The jokey tone of some of this is there to insulate it from criticism, but Gutfeld isn’t joking. The party of Donald “Grab 'Em By The Pussy” Trump shows no limits in normalizing extremely toxic masculinity and sexual violence. That much is evident in new court filings in the first big test case for the abortion “bounty hunter” law in Texas. The author of the law, former Texas solicitor general Jonathan Mitchell, has so far shown no shame that his client — who is suing his ex-wife’s friends for helping her abort a pregnancy — displays a long history of abusive, controlling behavior. Mitchell shrugged off reports that his client, Marcus Silva, tried to prevent his wife from working and called her names like “slut” and “whore” in front of her coworkers.
So it’s unlikely that Mitchell will mind a new filing providing evidence that Silva threatened to upload sexually explicit videos of his ex-wife, unless she returned home to clean and do laundry for him. Or that he used blackmail methods in an attempt to rape her, saying he would drop the lawsuit if she had sex with him. The document had a transcript of Silva, this latest “hero” of the anti-abortion movement, telling his ex, “You’re just gonna have your fcking life destroyed in every fcking way that you can imagine to where you want to blow your f*cking brains out.”
It’s not surprising that Mitchell would be fine with this treatment of women. As he argued to the Supreme Court in 2021, women have it coming by not “refraining from sexual intercourse.” But now, of course, Mitchell is working for a man whose goal is to force his ex-wife to have sex with him.
One would think, after the political backlash to the overturn of Roe v. Wade, Republicans would not be so eager to advertise how the anti-choice movement is about controlling women and not “life.” But, as David Kirkpatrick of the New Yorker writes, the head of Alliance Defending Freedom, the biggest conservative legal group in the country, was open about how the goal is to destroy access to contraception. “It may be that the day will come when people say the birth-control pill was a mistake,” Alan Sears explained.
What’s notable is this extremism isn’t just relegated to the world of fundamentalist Christianity. The more secular and more proudly fascist right — which is increasingly cossetted and promoted by the tech billionaire world of Elon Musk and his buddies — has been aggressively promoting pseudo-scientific arguments in favor of extreme curtailing of sexual freedom.
The most prominent example is Costin Alamariu, a self-declared fascist who has become an “intellectual” darling on the right for putting a faux-intellectual gloss on some of the most evil impulses of the MAGA movement. He’s been blogging for a long time under the name “Bronze Age Pervert,” which makes him sound fun, but of course, he’s anything but. His book, “Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy,” has become an Amazon bestseller because he’s promoted by the grossest people on the internet. He proposes strict control over human “breeding” on the facetious grounds that it’s necessary for the betterment of humanity, which he mostly understands in extremely racist terms. In his newsletter, John Ganz quotes Alamariu’s writing:
I make the case in this introduction that this same matter of selective breeding, whether sexual selection, or various societies’ management of marriage and reproduction, constitutes the most important part of morality, legislation, or of the “lawgiver’s art,” and that a sharp awareness of this reality is what led, again, to the discovery of the standard of nature and the subsequent birth of philosophy.
As Graeme Wood at the Atlantic pointed out, on his blog, Alamariu dispenses with the faux-academic language for an earthier version of the same arguments. “He considers American cities a ‘wasteland’ run by Jews and Black people, though the words he uses to denote these groups are considerably less genteel than these,” he writes. Christopher Rufo has publicly praised Alamariu.
The sexual weirdness of the MAGA movement is deeply intertwined with the racism and the violence. Alamariu’s writings are just saying the quiet part out loud: Sexual control, especially of women, is largely fueled by notions about “breeding” future generations, especially to look a certain way that racists want them to. Normalizing violence against women is part of that scheme, since, as fascists long have understood, women often don’t go along voluntarily.
Because this is so weird, it’s tempting to ignore it as the chattering of a fringe group of men are still mad they didn’t get laid in college. But that would be a mistake, and not just because some of those men have become wildly powerful:
As the Dobbs decision by the Supreme Court shows, Republicans are never content to keep their massive sexual issues to themselves. They are determined to make everyone else suffer, not only by rolling back reproductive rights but by aggressively normalizing sexual and domestic violence. The throughline here is a belief that women aren’t full human beings, but a sexual resource to be put under male control, by violence if necessary. It’s a view they’re getting increasingly less coy about publicly sharing.
Women don’t want to fuck conservative men anymore. So they’re trying to punish women for it.
There are like 5 lies in the first paragraph. Why would you read further?
selective breeding, whether sexual selection, or various societies’ management of marriage and reproduction, constitutes the most important part of morality, legislation, or of the “lawgiver’s art,” and that a sharp awareness of this reality is what led, again, to the discovery of the standard of nature and the subsequent birth of philosophy.
These people are fucking idiots. Zero logic, feelings only. And then they claim they, as men, only cry because there is something in the water artificially lowering their testosterone. Just when you thought they can’t get any dumber or less mature…
I feel great after a good cry. Clear headed, focused. Crying is great.
selective breeding is birth control.
Feelings for these ‘men’ are ok, as long as those feelings are anger and machismo. Everything else is too effeminate.
Or they just hold it on and take it out on women and minorities.
What a bunch of fucking degenerates.
The old hag was actually right “basket of deplorables”
I disagree about the cause and effect here. It’s not that they’re promoting sexual abuse to get control of breeding, they’re demanding control of breeding to justify their demands to have the right to abuse women sexually.
These are people who really exemplify that Wilde quote: “everything’s about sex, except sex that’s about power”
You make a good point. The power and control are their goal, sexual repression is the means to that end.
Yeah they want to never have to earn a woman’s love and loyalty as a fellow human being. In part because that’s hard, it takes a lifetime of hard work to keep another person willingly loyal to you. You have to treat them with kindness, respect, loyalty, etc and even then there’s still a chance that they break your trust. What these people want is for none of that. And they’ll hurt anyone to get it
They always have been pretty weird about sex.
Mostly about the parts that have to do with imbalances of power. They love those. Two+ actually consenting adults living their lives openly and honestly is threatening to them, though.
Let’s not pretend that imbalances of power aren’t an enormously popular fetish for all kinds of people. I have never met a woman who wasn’t into it to some degree and I suspect the vast majority of men are into it too.
If you’re talking about a kink or a fetish like BDSM, that’s very very different from, say, criminalising reproductive rights and education. No safe word’s going to get you out of that one.
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Recently, my Nanna said, “Those young rich women think it’s so cool to get their abortions and have sex.” It took a while to unpack that with her.
Thank you for your service.
The cult-like following of Trump always had an unsettling mix of incel-inflected misogyny, coupled with a homophobia that is somehow also homoerotic.
Fellas, is it gay to be homophobic? lol, do yall think we could get that question into the next GOP debate? There’s no way someone wouldn’t fuck up royally answering that question.
Homophobia is pretty gay, they spend a lot more time thinking about gay sex than I do lol
Bigotry is such a waste of time and effort.
Indeed, there is also nothing manlier than gay sex
I know you’re joking but internalized homophobia is a real thing
Right? I know someone who would probably feel a lot better if he just accepted his own feelings. Absolutely hates gay men, specifically. Says they are a temptation.
That’s fine, be tempted by hot sweaty men. Don’t hate yourself and all gay men because you’re worried it will be fun.
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Spoiler alert: they’re not getting weirder in a fun way.
This thread’s existence appears to be an attempt to keep power where it currently is, with the elites of our society. People here are hating a group of people that barely exist (a super-minority). It’s the same on the right; they pick the loudest, craziest leftist groups and say that all people in the left are like that. This is crazy! I voted for Trump and according to many in here I’m essentially a Nazi that wants a fascist dictatorship.
It’s pretty disheartening, but at the same time I know there’s basically a bunch of bots in here that are trying to pit us against each other. The people in power (government and corporate elites) are scared of us becoming allies and realizing THEY are the ones responsible, not MAGA Republicans, and not extreme leftists. They WANT us to question free speech even though we know better. They’ll even reply to me to make it SEEM like there are people that want to limit free speech, but the only people that want to do so are the elites.
Please people wake up. I am not your enemy. The government and corporate elites are scared! They are the ones that need to answer for this. Stop fighting your brothers and sisters and LOOK UP!
I voted for Trump and according to many in here I’m essentially a Nazi that wants a fascist dictatorship.
Yes, voting for a fascist dictator is literally a defining characteristic of someone that wants a fascist dictatorship.
How do you feel about the failed coup by Trump, do you think he’s a traitor or that you made a mistake voting for him?
I don’t think I made a mistake, and I don’t think Trump had anything to do with January 6th. The FBI/CIA had many operatives involved with the Jan. 6th riot (that had infiltrated some of the extremist groups) that pushed those extremists to do what they did, but didn’t disclose any information to the head of capital security ahead of time preparing them for the riot that THEY instigated. In my opinion this was just another attempt to take down the populist movement of anti-authoritarianism that has gathered behind Trump. Those in power are scared, and created this event just like they do in other countries to spark conflict. They want us fighting each other.
Edit: Here’s my source on this by the way: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/24/us/proud-boys-fbi-informants.html
I don’t think I made a mistake, and I don’t think Trump had anything to do with January 6th.
In other words, you’ve placed ourselves as our enemy without admitting you’ve done so. Until you can admit your error, there’s nothing more to discuss.
Who is ourselves? I’ve not said anyone but corporate and government elites are our enemies.
Everyone who cares about democracy and the rule of law. You’ve declared yourself on the side of fascism, and there’s nothing more to say to you.
Is this an AI response? I really see no logic to this claim.
Deplorables usually don’t
He said he did and all of the people there said he did, why don’t you believe them?
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Lmao, using that article as a source is hilarious. Pretending to be a trump supporter, you got me.
You think the maga cult is a “populist movement of anti-authorianism”? That’s cute.
There was nothing “populist” about it. It was more astroturfed than the NFL. His candidacy was a joke that people like you were too ignorant to understand. His presidency was turned into the biggest grift in American history. And his “anti-authorianism” cult want a civil war and to install him as a Putin style emperor for life.
Sorry you got duped, but dude… Just admit you got duped and try to do better next time.
The extremists you’re talking about are less than 1% of the people that voted for Trump (almost half of all voters). Call Trump supporters what you want, but they are by-and-large a populist anti-authoritarian base of individuals.
They are a cult. He is a criminal. You are a fool. The rest of the world can see this. Too bad you can’t.
This clown is a self-professed Trump voter. Just downvote, block, ignore.
I think there is more we have in common then we have differences, but I view Trump and every single one of his lackeys and sycophants to be an existential threat to the United States. I don’t consider myself a Democrat, but I will vote for nothing but until the pro-racism, pro-fascism, pro-authoritarianism wing of the Republican party is buried. I swore an oath over thirty years ago to defend this nation against all enemies foreign and domestic, and only now have circumstances made it necessary for me to act on that oath.
You want to work together against the rich? Great! Me too! But first things first. Let’s save democracy.
I’ll happily vote for RFK if you will. I only voted for Trump because the establishment hates him, but I don’t think he’s the solution. That being said, imo Biden and the neo-democrats (as well as the neo-cons) are even worse.
RFK can get fucked, sorry. I’m 100% anti-Trump and I will vote for any democrat in any race against a republican who refused to denounce him. When they are all gone, and my daughters have their rights back, and my queer friends and family can live their lives without fear or discrimination, then we can elect the person with the best plan for taking some of the last fifty years of economic growth back from the rich assholes who stole it from us. Until then, I want nothing but to keep Trump and his ilk as far away from the mechanisms of power as we can.
No matter what you think about Biden, America’s going to be pretty much the same as we’ve always been under him. Maybe better in some ways, worse in others, but nothing that’s going to undermine the nation. Unfortunately the same can’t be said for Trump.
I don’t want things to be the same, that’s exactly my problem with our current society. We’ve become a society that supports forever wars, and lacks any and all compassion. I’m just here doing the best I can in this world with all my flaws and all the tools I was given by this society, and I voted for Trump. Does that mean I should be labeled a Nazi and a fascist for doing so? Maybe, but what does that say about the society that led to me being this way? Where is the compassion? Where is the discussion? I can tell you FOR SURE that it’s not in this forum where I’ve already been called a fascist Nazi for trying to bring us together.
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If the drastic change you’re looking for either doesn’t contemplate people besides yourself or actively seeks to harm them, please don’t complain about being called a Nazi. If you would prefer a fascist regime to a center right one, I don’t know what you expect.
There are a lot of nutters on the left I disagree with, but I will vote to take away every gun in America and redesigning cities to be anti-car and eliminate the suburbs, and even minimum income—all positions I disagree with—i will vote for every one of those things before I allow a fascist to take over this country.
Note that Biden isn’t endorsing any of those positions, so my sacrifice is only theoretical in any event. This is what I mean by nothing really changes—we are still recognizably the America I’ve lived in for fifty years.
I think one of the things I struggle with is: how much should I be concerned about this?
Like, it’s wildly concerning, but aren’t these just the same people that always thought this way saying the quiet part out loud?
I kind of personally feel that it’s the death throws of the more gentrified version of this brand of politics. The women are more family focused, men are goal oriented demographics reflect reality while ignoring systemic issues brand. It’s kindly thought of as old fashioned, but increasingly described as ignorant or unsophisticated.
It feels more like the violent lashing out of a cornered animal that knows it is about to be lunch.
The money behind it is worrying, but it feels like these people are kicking and screaming because they’re being dragged forward.
Idk
they’re lashing out, hoping the liberals amongst us go to their defense. They want a fascist dictatorship, it’s spelled out in the 2025 plan. You should be concerned. But we aren’t done fighting yet. Join protests, punch fascists, vote, and volunteer at election sites to fight the wave of fascism heading towards our country.
I would agree if they hadn’t controlled the country for 4 years and hadn’t made huge strides like overturning roe v wade. The fact that you see them as fringe kind of works in their favor.
The problem is that no one is saying they can’t continue to be family-focused or goal oriented, old-fashioned, or ignorant and unsophisticated. They can choose those things for themselves and no one is going to try to stop them. The problem is that they insist that everyone else conform to their values and are trying to drag the rest of us back to the Dark Ages with them. And they’ve made a good start with the rights they’ve already rolled back.
So yeah, I’d say there’s good justification to be concerned. If they were only dangerous to themselves I wouldn’t be too worried, but they’re a danger to everyone.
Yeah I do agree tbh, people find a weird bit of right wing craziness poking through the wall and panic but the reality is you can find popular republican’s with crazy hateful ideas all through time and in every direction.
The regressive right has been pushing back against progress, playing the long game, since the civil rights era. Fifty years or more.
It seems to me their power has only grown since then. They’ve stacked courts, gerrymandered the shit out of many places, and managed to get Bush and Trump elected.
If regressive politics is in its death throes, how did Republicans gain control of the Senate? How is it that so many anti LGBTQ laws have been passed in* so many states? How is it so many boards of education have been taken over by the right?
If the right is almost done how did they have the power to overturn Roe v Wade? How did we end up with the Shelby County v Holder decision?
Conservative* regressivism and the bigotry that undergirds it is a fact of human nature. Don’t be naive and think we will be done with it so easily.
And pay attention to who is exercising power to enact their visions. That should disabuse you of any false hope that the fight against regressivism is over.
There’s danger in the fact that they’re comfortable saying it out loud. It means they don’t fear the consequences of saying this, and thus they’re much closer to not fearing the consequences of doing it
So you ain’t wrong that they are lashing out because they see the march of social progress on the wall and see that as a threat. But they are very much still dangerous maybe more than ever. They know that if they don’t take extreme measures to drag us backward they will die out and “lose”, which is why what they hope to achieve is a dictatorship where they can force the country to fit their desired reality. I am very much afraid and I live in a very solidly blue state
I’m pretty sure these cunts got a pizza shop in DC where they rape & torture kids in the basement.
As much as they project it I wouldn’t be surprised.
I don’t think the right can get any weirder. They’re already psychotic in general.
I have literally seen very notorious white supremacists on Facebook tell people they vote for Joe Biden to ‘kick off race war’. They’re bizarre.
I haven’t seen that, but then again, I tend to not follow or friend people on Facebook who are white supremacists.
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