For my “convenience” and because in this way they can show ads and clickbait
Also: I SET A FUCKING GROUP POLICY THAT DISABLES THE SEARCH BAR; WHY THEY FUCKING IGNORE IT???
“I installed malware on my computer and now the malware does what the author of the malware wants.”
Oh no. Anyway…
Never had anything like that happen to me and I’ve got four windows 11 computers and one windows 10.
I’ve never had major issues with Linux either but I’m a programmer and a professional engineer so figuring out how to make processes work is what I do for a living.
It’s almost like everyone’s experiences are different and you’re irrelevant.
Did I mention Linux or made it about Linux vs Windows?
Well, congratulations, but “works on my machine” is not exactly the best argument when it comes to software.
Neither is “I had a bad experience because I don’t know how it works.”
I agree, but what to do when people give up so easily on Linux when hitting their first bump. 🤷♂️
Why are you talking about Linux in the first place? Nothing pointed to this discussion being about Linux, or maybe you’re so used to Linux users having nothing to talk about except “DAE Windows bad” that you thought you were on the Linux meme community?
Why are you talking about Linux in the first place?
I assumed your last message was about Linux, since it’s not exactly hard to understand how Windows works. 30 years of technical debt with a new UI every now and then, so they can give a reason why they are reselling the same software over and over again, combined with the effort to squeeze every bit of possible profit out of their user base, e.g. through ads, selling data gathered from their user base and possibly even silently postponing fixes for gaping security holes, so e.g. Antivirus companies have a reason to exist.
You can’t possibly believe MS does all the bullshit they do with the user in mind? No user ever said “Please let the next overhyped Candy-Crush-esque game pop up in my start menu automatically” or “Please randomly enable this useless search bar during an update” or “Please give me this piece of software with full control over every digital step I take, but don’t you dare tell me what it does in detail.” And the best part is the users even pay to have this software on their machine.
having nothing to talk about except “DAE Windows bad”
You do realize the topic of this thread is “Windows bad” right? Maybe read the post again?
Read again, I’m saying you assumed this conversation was about Linux because Linux people have nothing to talk about expect how they hate Windows, I didn’t say this conversation wasn’t able Windows being bad, I said it wasn’t about Linux in the first place but just like vegans or people who do CrossFit, you guys can’t help bringing everything back to your own field of interest no matter if people opened the door to it or not.
More like “My computer came with malware and I’m starting to realise that’s what it is” in most cases.
Yeah, exactly. You can help people accept that or be an asshole to people when they start to approach it
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Ladies and gentlemen, a prime example of exactly why people don’t switch to Linux.
The loudest portion of the community are insufferable twats, and you know it’s bad because I’m an insufferable twat and I’m calling this one out on it.
Yeah, but, DAE LE WINDASS WINDOWNS BAD??! LOL LE MICRO SHIT USERS LOLOLOL XD XD EGGS DEE MI$RO$OFT IS BIL GAETS DIK JOKE. Seems perfectly welcoming to me, especially the heavy insinuation that absolutely everything is PEBKAC, even if you’re on a fresh install of something allegedly intended for mainstream - following verbatim, explicitly appropriate instructions. If you’re really lucky, someone might deign to link you an LMGTFY.
This stuff truly has helped make Desktop Linux a force to be reckoned with over the years. So much so that Year of Desktop Linux has been… pretty much every year of the past 20, I think.
On Windows, we all know it’s spackled together shit with shoe strings, spit and duct tape - probably still involving some tech out of the 70s-80s or at least tech debt from back then. We tend to not pretend it’s flawless because no software is.
Most of the Linux communities are the same.
often the content isn’t even related to Linux it’s just tirades of anger against corporations. Doesn’t even have to be Microsoft, any commercial that dares make any move in the Linux space - Canonical, red hat, oracle get derided too.
To be fair, Oracle seems to be ridiculed by everyone.
“Proposers of a piece of free and open source software, an ideology created by an anarcho-socialist software engineer, tend to lean left on the political spectrum. More news at 11…”
Not to forget this is Lemmy which has a development leadership so left leaning that the CIA are likely already working on regime destabilisation
People like OP install obviously shit software and then whine on the Internet about how shit the software is they chose.
People like you cry about that someone points out how it’s obviously their own fault entirely.
I’m pretty sure I’m not the most insufferable twat in this thread. Not even close.
Yup, you are the insufferrable twat. You just keep proving their point. Just move on, life isn’t about “winning” imaginary internet discussions.
Discussion? You think this is a discussion? You might want to freshen up on the definition of discussion, my friend. Neither you nor the other guy even have made a single point yet. None of you even tried to prove to me that I am wrong. All you have done until now is throwing insults at me. Please keep doing that. Please keep not proving me wrong.
Yup, a completely insufferrable twat.
Right back at ya 😘
As someone who just wandered into this thread - yes, you are by far the most insufferable poster on this thread so far. Worse than many other vegetarians in fact.
Vegetarians? Are you sure you’re doing alright? This is a discussion about software, not beef and lettuce, buddy.
You may not even want to hear it because you’re obviously so far up your own ass that you wouldn’t be able to but:
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Most computers ship with Windows installed, maybe they didn’t “choose” anything
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There are a lot of people who need to use Windows professionally, Linux is not always a viable alternative at all
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People are allowed to prefer Windows for their own reasons and still complain about the shit MS pulls off without immediately being attacked for “installing malware”
maybe they didn’t “choose” anything
They chose a computer with Windows preinstalled.
There are a lot of people who need to use Windows professionally, Linux is not always a viable alternative at all
You misunderstand. I’m not saying don’t use Windows. I’m saying don’t use Windows and then whine about it later. If you have a job that requires you to use Windows and you have a problem with using Windows, go complain to your manager, not some strangers on the Internet, they can’t help you.
People are allowed to prefer Windows for their own reasons and still complain about the shit MS pulls off without immediately being attacked for “installing malware”
People are allowed to prefer Windows no question, but somehow they’re always surprised that an operating system, that is generally known for performing actions from which MS profits, performs actions from which MS profits. And then they go cry on the Internet about it like dealing with this wasn’t the consequence of their own actions. And then they’re surprised they get ridiculed for being ridiculous.
You keep talking about choice even though there isn’t one for many people. And why wouldn’t they be allowed to whine about it? To call out MS for their constant bullshit is absolutely the right thing to do imo.
Your initial comment was not only incredibly condescending and presumptuous but doesn’t help anyone. And it’s also absolutely the last thing people wanna hear who keep getting invaded like that by MS all the time. So you kinda deserve the backlash, sorry you don’t see that.
To call out MS for their constant bullshit is absolutely the right thing to do imo.
The post quite literally says “WHY THEY ****ING IGNORE IT???”. That’s not calling out MS for their bullshit. That’s asking why MS would do MS bullshit, to which the obvious answer is “because they’re MS”, hence my comment
You keep talking about choice even though there isn’t one for many people.
May I point out the part where I said, that if you’re forced to use Windows then maybe you should complain to the people who force you, not random people on the Internet, who are not responsible for your problems.
Your initial comment […] doesn’t help anyone.
Then it was right on topic. 🤷♂️
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If you don’t switch to linux because of some jackass online then you can stay in your malcrosoft shithole and probably save a few forums from your dumbass bullshit.
Your lack of self awareness is disturbing.
Preach, lemmy user was mean to me so ill stick to my os lmao? Enjoy
Imagine being so fragile that you base your actions on internet strangers behavior. Like – imagine typing for other humans to read and being serious.
Yeah, if you want people to try switching you need to understand their use case and nicely explain the pros and cons. Being a dick about it just makes people think it’s some elitist club for computer nerds instead of a tool they may find useful
i agree with your contention, but sadly many are forced to use windows for work or school.
the fact they did this on ltsc as well is insane
definitely insane to do this on LTSC
Or on znls. It’s ridiculous
Makes me worried what Microsoft force onto us next.
Advertising in the explorer, personalised by the files you’re looking at
Fuck you for being right
I doubt that they would go that far for ltsc. But maybe windows store?
they don’t care, they will put it everywhere they can.
While that is true for normal user versions. But do you really think that for enterprise?
Not to mention that ltsc is enterprise with less features for stability. We don’t have windows store, Cortana or even edge.
if it can add an extra buck to the enterprise profits they will go the extra mile to get that buck
The funniest thing is that people complain about Windows, but at the same time are afraid of switching to Linux. Linux has improved so much over the years that it is capable of doing most of the same things as Windows can do (and I don’t mean restoring the search bar every update)
The enshittification of Windows continues apace.
My next gaming PC’s gonna be Linux.
Windows: You will use Bing. Resistance is futile.
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There are ways to make the search bar useful
O&O shutup 10, get it and use it, you’ll love your windows machine once you disable the bullshit
I just spent more than an hour fixing this shit, everyone was right. It forced search bar on LTSC also. Which I thought was against Windows 10 LTSC policies for Enterprise editions? Or at least, against it’s very core functions? lol
You didn’t read that pop-up above the search bar asking if it should stay disabled or not?
Almost like Windows caters to the average user, who might have disabled the search bar accidentally and doesn’t know how to turn it back on …
Yeah, same shit happened on my (W10) laptop today (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
Luckily, I rarely have to deal with this shit since I daily drive Fedora on my desktop PC, and only dual-boot into W11 when I want to play games on Game Pass.
Why all my window machines use ltsc fucking “feature” updates
As someone running a windows 10 update right now that I procrastinated to let install I am now having a bad day already. Can’t wait for this to happen to my pc!
Is it hard to get two monitors running on Arch w/ i3wm? I can’t really read another bullshit thing about microsoft again and thats all I am worried about for the switch.