My grandma used to say she didn’t give a fuck about climate change because she’s old and she’ll be dead before it destroys the earth. Now she needs the air con to live in summer. I hope she dies of heat stroke.
“A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.”
Because your generation knows only hate. Hate and blame.
Cry some more, bitch
found the old person who feels responsible but unable to handle knowing they’re at fault
Cognitive dissonance is a bitch
Well, we learned it from somewhere old fuck.
So did they. So what’s your excuse to keep doing it? If you think they can choose to be different so could you.
Don’t like hateful shit said to you? Stop saying hateful shit. I can guarantee you’ll experience less.
So why are you out here trying to start shit?
Don’t like hateful shit said to you? Stop saying hateful shit.Follow your own advice.
Did old age slow down your thought process?
No need to lash out just cuz you’re struggling.
Yeah, we had really crap parents. Honestly the worst generation of parents to ever exist in history. Just complete garbage human beings.
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I too blame this mans grandma
Laughs in 1.5 C
It’s so funny how OP and people like him took the bait from the big capitalists and now are complaining about old dudes that never had any power instead of the ones that had and have real power.
They have no clue that in the future they are the ones who will have fingers pointed at
Fight the machine, the ones in power. Protest, demonstrate, do direct actions, vote! I do my part.
But until we did not succeed in changing the system, it is the most dangerous thing to say that consumers are not responsible.
You should have read the other comments I made underneath this post before judging me like this.
I don’t really think future generations are going to blame me. (except in funny memes)
Are they going to blame you?
We all have to stop feeding the machine!
The “okay boomer” era of the internet came and went. Idiotic to blame climate change on an 80 year old person when we know exactly who paid for and then covered up the data suggesting manufacturing and transportation was harming the planet and ourselves.
I don’t blame them for not understanding 40 years ago, but I do blame them for not understanding now. Older generations still contain the majority of climate deniers and other heel draggers, and their votes make a big difference.
Nestle and Shell “yeah Grandma”
October was never cold. You’re gaslighting yourself
Where do you live?
I dunno, I’m pretty cold right now.
Coal shoveling anti vax boomer alert!
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One thing I’m unsure of is whether warming is so bad because a) planet was warmer multiple time in prehistory and it led to abidance of life b) we live in interglacial period and if that perid ends we are going to fight much worse calamity and need much more energy. Even getting out could become life threatening.
On the other hand Venus situation is also not ideal.
disclaimer: opinion here ofc deciding if it is bad depends very much on the viewpoint. But yourself as a human should probably view it from the viewpoint of mankind in general. And then, yes, it is undoubtably bad. It is going to cost humankind an unimaginable amount of money and it’ll increase inequality and unfairness in unimaginable amounts. That’s also why there are so many people denying or not believing it. A lot of humans are uninformed or unable to grasp the issue on a logical level simply because of the scale of the issue.
Is it though? There are scientists who claim golf stream will stop but also that it won’t. There are scientists claiming that warmer temperature will cause horrible food shortages etc but others who say it will also create better enviroment for plants (warm + CO2) which among others are main source of nutrition for humans and animals consumed by humans. It might even extend tropical life rich waters. Human understanding came far but it’s still lacking. I’m all for nature preservertion but is building huge wind plants in middle of mountains forest gonna safe us or have any effect as oppose to negatively affecting nature?
We need reason and not sensationism to drive these changes, IMHO.I didn’t get notification but i cannot let stand your statement. You’re just wrong. Pretty much all of scientists agree that it is unimaginably worse than good. Trying to argue about that is just yourself coping with denying the issue at hand.
Speed of change.
Natural climate changes happen over tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years
Not tens to hundreds of years.
Not always, check Sahara for instance. Went from grass lands with biggest lake on planet to dust dry place within hundreds of years as Egyptians who built pyramids still lived in period before total desrtification. That affected whole world climate BTW.
A green Sahara is the anomaly.
it’s cycle that reapeats itself, I suppose it can seem unusual.
It’s on a 40000+ year cycle, it’s not expected to be naturally green for another 15000 years. And some of the people who study this say that it is dry for the majority of the time (idk the actual breakdown that they claim but it is not a measly 1-2%).
So yes, a green Sahara is unusual.
My point is It’s irrelevant whether you think of it as such, OP point is climate changed in that time relatively fast dispite humans not going through industrial revolution. It manifested among else in Sahara.
Are you trying to say manmade climate change isn’t as bad for us as its being made out to be?
Because if you are, the planet literally doesn’t care and if some of the more basic lifeforms survive, life will go on.
But what we are worried about is whether it is habitable for humans, and we are fucking over our ability to survive at several magnitudes faster than is normal for our little rock spaceship.
But desertification is a different phenomenon than climate change, right? The speed and magnitude of global climate change right now has not been found, too.
Not in Sahara case. Or to be precise it’s cycle of combinations of titling earth axe, changing orbit shape and maybe some other things like solar cycles that all affects global climate all over the planet manifesting among else in Sahara as cycles of desert <> grassland depending on which phase it is ATM.
That solar cycle itself change global avg temperature every few years.
Also around middle age there was “small” ice age. You see, climate seem stable but it isn’t even in horizont of hundreds of years. It will change regardless of humans. Point is whether humans help it into good/ neutral / bad phase and how long it takes.My other point is that eachtime earth was warmer few degrees than today, life boomed.
Entirely??
Maybe she was some kinda big oil tycoon.
You say that but I currently know middle managers from the gen x and millennial generation expecting people to drive into work when they could be running their businesses from home and should be minimalizing the emissions. Grandma didn’t make them do that.
Taylor swift and her private jet are of the millennial timeline.
I don’t know a lot of grandmas with a private jet.
And grandma isn’t providing you all with the plastic bottle waste. She isn’t forcing Coca Cola down your throat. Which btw is still being enjoyed by millenials who still are keeping these giant assholes in business. Grandma didn’t make you do that.
Grandmas aren’t forcing you to drive a combustible engine car.
Grandmas aren’t calling up to make the oil companies dump into the sea.
Grandmas aren’t releasing c8 into all the water infecting everyone just so you can have some non stick floss.
These are current day decisions. They are STILL current day decisions of the current generation in power of decision to continue to use, take advantage of, build on top of or change.
so don’t shuffle off the blame off yourself and your own generation are doing to your grandma for what these fuck faces are continuing to be doing in the current generations running the show. They have their own free will and choice to fuck us all up with their selfish behaviour.
If anything: grandmas may have even taught a few people how to knit. And cook frugal with little food because some even lived through a war. Those are actually sustainable hobbies believe it or not. That’s not something you can ‘attribute’ to current day generations for all the shit they partake in that isn’t sustainable. /rant over.
And who, pray tell, voted for the populist shitbags that ushered in the capitist coup that perpetuated fossil fuel and consumerist lifestyles at an accelerating rate and borrowed against their childrens’ and grandchildrens’ futures?
Carter tried to warn them, but it turns out boomers didn’t like being called out on their shit, so they replaced him with one corporate stooge after another.
Boomers aren’t entirely to blame, but they are far from blameless.
If you’re talking about Ronald Reagan, he literally won or tied in every age group, except for the 18-21 block, which he lost by 1 percentage point. https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-1980
Friendly reminder that ageism is a ploy used by capitalists to distract from the only meaningful difference between groups: their class. Because the Boomers are gonna be dead pretty soon and posting memes blaming them for societal problems which existed before them and which will exist after the fact is going to do about as much to improve the material conditions of the world and the people in it as it does today. Which is to say: dick all.
The 18-21 year olds in 1980? The Baby Boomers who are 61-64 now?
If Gen Z could do basic math, they’d be very upset right now. Thankfully Common Core made sure that will never happen.
And even then you’re giving genZ too much credit. They don’t legitimately give two fucks about the world. If they did they’d go after Coca Cola / nestle. Not someone’s gramma who has all the power of a pen cap to control the world.
I don’t think any generation is a monolith and I’m sure there are plenty of Gen Zers who both don’t go after their grandmas and who do hate Nestle/Coke/corporations in general. My joke was more about how Gen Z was disenfranchised as a result of incompetent educational policy. Common Core is terrible.
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And look at you talk like no one protested in the 1960s about this same stuff during their generation
PEOPLE STOOD IN FRONT OF TANKS AND ALLOWED THEMSELVES TO GET RUN OVER AND SET THEMSELVES ON FIRE.
ONE DUDE EVEN LEFT HIS ARM UP UNTIL IT DIED INTO A LIFELESS STUMP IN PROTEST.
https://m.jpost.com/omg/meet-the-man-whose-arm-has-been-raised-for-almost-50-years-688399
you didn’t invent the word ‘protest’. You haven’t even gotten your feet burnt on the word yet.
Someone before you invented anti establishment songs that were also popular.
https://www.denvercenter.org/news-center/protest-songs-of-the-60s-and-70s/
There was definitely an audience.
If anything : grandma’s days of protest make you look like the compliant one. You’re entirely compliant. Just whiney.watch out you don’t get any ash on your Pajamas what with all your ‘protesting’ online….making ….memes.
PS: as much as you want to cry about previous president and voting decisions: watch yourself. For Trump was this generation. You can cry all you want about how you didn’t vote him in but being compliant and not voting doesn’t undo it. So prepare yourself for you’re going to be forever blamed in the future for trump having had power to be destructive.
And you still didn’t protest anywhere near the previous generations did when someone got voted in they didn’t like. So good luck explaining that to future generations. You can say it’s the NRA. You can say it’s the proud boys. But so long as we all use the generational argument you’ve gotten all cozy and latched onto: Trump is going to be considered to be all on you. That is the exact logic you are using after all.
Protesting has evolved. Protests of the past, of standing on a street corner with a sign, have repeatedly proved to be a waste of time. We have learned that you must protest with your wallet and by teaching the ignorant. No one responds positively or changes their mind on something because a rando on the street yells something at them and waves a sign in their face. Making a significant impact in the cultural zeitgeist requires a different approach. Like it or not, memes like the one in this post resonate with the younger generations. This is far more effective.
Correct that Protests are supposed to be about motivating everyone in your current situation on what to do.
What it is not: it is Not blaming and sitting back on your ass while someone does it for you.
So I disagree this post was motivating. This isn’t even a protest. This is whining at best. it’s non productive shaming at it’s worst.
Capitalism is to blame. Not individuals or generations…
That’s isn’t what the OP posted. So just sharing some of that blame so they know it.
First, it’s a meme. The context is the grandma is of the generation since the meme is a known thing. It’s not specifically calling out grandmas. That seems a bit lost on you.
Second, they did make the decisions we are currently in and fought to make it conventional knowledge. They allowed the mechanisms of balance within the government to go so far off the scale that coming back it so daunting I am not sure how it can get there.
And third, it’s a joke. Jokes have hints of truths and hints of fiction. They should provocative healthy discussions. It comes off as super aggressive at some meme. No one is attacking you personally by posting this.
If you are pissed at the situation, I understand. I’m pissed too.
If you dish it, take it, hypocrite.
Good talk
Unprompted Attacking people and groups online isn’t discussing or communication. It’s abuse. It’s you. You are you’re problem. find a better therapist.
Fucking swinging for the fences on the prairies.
Attacking? I think it’s you that needs the therapy. Angry person.
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Ok Boomer
Ok Trump lover. He is after all what your generation allowed into power. Good luck on explaining that one to the future generations.
Lol ok boomer
Ok bigot.
Listen smoogs, untwist your panties a bit. I didn’t vote for Trump, but I do know people in my millennial generation that did. I’d call them boomer, too. That’s how I take this meme, not as a slight against baby boomers, but the mentality of people that vote in ways that harm us. If you want to blame me and call me bigot for doing everything I can to prevent shit like that, by all means boomer, you’re doing a bang up job helping.
Shell is currently releasing pure death into the air and water (biggest oil spill 2010 - Barack Obama was a voted in president at this time ) and nestle charges for water use (flint water disaster 2014 - - Barack Obama was a voted in president at this time) baby formula was 1974 - (Richard Nixon ) and dupont released c8 into water supply in 1984. - (Ronald Reagan).
This could have been reversed any time in the last 60, even 15 yrs.
Calm down, find a better therapist and Get educated.
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Loool triggered ya eh? Imagine weaponizing therapy and education. Just go vote boomer.
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And depending on who’s doing statistics it was overwhelmingly white millenials voting for trump. Either way you get to wear it for the rest of your life cuz you’re the generation he was president in. It is after all the logic you’re using for everyone else.
And depending on who’s doing statistics it was overwhelmingly white millenials voting for trump. Either way you get to wear it for the rest of your life cuz you’re the generation he was president in. It is after all the logic you’re using for everyone else.
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And depending on who’s doing statistics it was overwhelmingly white millenials
Finally your bias starts to show its true colours.
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What do you mean what do you mean used to be cold? It’s been getting warmer for years. I remember playing in the snow in October.
It’s getting colder in Michigan earlier
Almost as if the climate was… I don’t know, different now.
Grandma must pay for her sins. We might not be able to save the world, but maybe we can avenge it.
Too many superhero movies for yall.
She gets the “You will go to sleep or I will put you to sleep” retirement home.
Now in cinemas: The Avengers vs Climate Grandma
Rather ‘The Avengers vs Climate Activists’
Hilarious, but in all seriousness let’s leave grandma alone.
The world is getting what it had coming. Fuck the earth!
I wish she would. But nooooo they are just gonna die while guzzling down her payments, for which I have to work 10 years longer for and will get less no matter what.
I AM SO SICK OF IT
Edit: I don’t want to avenge anything anymore. I am just so tired of this hopeless situation, where no one who could do something, does anything to prevent it.
Maybe avenging some stuff will make you feel less tired.
I wish. People are getting called ecoterrorist already, if they glue themselves to the street and hold up traffic a little. I would have to blow up the government or sth to really make a point. Thats nothing I can do.
Counterpoint: It is something you can do on smaller scope. I hear billionaires are extremely flammable
And tasty… why else does everyone scream “Eat the rich!”?
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Where I am it’s 35 deg C. It’s second summer going on. Had to start using AC again in the night to be able to sleep.
Where tf is that?
A friend told me some trees are blooming in Milan
It’s cold in Canada too, well about 10 degrees. Not quite frost but definitely chilly. The dog needs his coat this week. Hello to you in Poland.
You live in Poland, why do you even need a car?
This makes no sense.
I really miss warm weather
We need to punch up and stop infighting.
Seriously. It’s infuriating. It’s exactly because people are so divided by wedge issues that we don’t have progress on this. Governments will keep ignoring climate change (and the global extinction event associated with it) as long as voters don’t make it a high priority.
These kids do not actually care. they do not give a shit about what the establishment is doing.
Shell is currently releasing pure death into the air and water (biggest oil spill 2010 - Barack Obama was a voted in president at this time ) and nestle charges for water use (flint water disaster 2014 - - Barack Obama was a voted in president at this time) baby formula was 1974 - (Richard Nixon ) and dupont released c8 into water supply in 1984. - (Ronald Reagan).
these genZ dumb fucks just sit down and whine how their grandma somehow retroactively voted for it with intention back in 1960. Meanwhile this could have been reversed any time in the past 60 years (even the last 15) since but they are intentionally pretending like that was never an option so they can continue their dumb ass dog pile on ancient shit.
No one was expecting grandma to know this in 1960. Grandma had plenty of chances to vote for fixing it any time in the past 60 years but she didn’t give a fuck because she’d be dead anyway. Gen Z didn’t have the votes to fix it, but they have to live with it. They have every right to be upset.
Look at you talk like whatever grandma voted always won. It’s been a bipartisan joke since the beginning and neither side succeeded when they had the chance. Proof that it didnt EVER matter what your grandma voted. You could have had vote pink or purple. Doesn’t matter. Both won at different times, and this shit still happened. It’s a misnomer to even pretend she had the power of vote to change that.
Go back to school and finish your maths.
I’m obviously talking about the grandmas who voted in the wrong direction. And they were very much part of the problem. Saying otherwise is taking away their agency. And yes, that includes primaries. It wasn’t a binary lose/lose choice, the people did and do have influence on who ends up on the final ballot.
Chill and stop taking out your stresses on others.
You first: stop taking your shit out on the elderly.
I never said anything about the elderly, maybe stop listening to the voices in your head?
It’s quite "comedy " because in some places governments are obsessed with green policy which led to closing many nuclear powerplants but now only alternative is fosil fuel because renewables are so inefficient. And also make people to pay renewable fees for ever wat of energy they use. It’s not driven by reason but by feelngs on both sites.
Old people need to stop first.
boomers didn’t make this post.
Evidently they’re susceptible to the propaganda, and it’s near impossible to change. At least they’ll age out but we can still try
Idk assholes seem to live forever I mean, look at Kissinger.
Are you stopped consuming animal products? Have you stopped consuming plastics? Have you sold your car? Have you stopped flying? Have you divested from companies that do those things? Then how is it all Grandma’s fault?
I stopped consuming animal products nearly 20 years ago. The last time I owned a car was 15 years ago. I go shopping with a backpack and put food packaging into recycling bins. Many products I choose to buy have a organic and fair trade certificate and are not owned by pepsico or nestlé. I fly long distance about once a year. Trains for short distance.
Thanks for asking, how about you?
Someone’s grandma just self identified.
Sophistry and ad hominems provide poor cover. It’s just intended to manipulate your own feelings, and avoid unpleasant thoughts you don’t wish to process.
Entered the comments looking to correct the narrative. Looks like that work is already done :)
I like Lemmy
Edit: blame the system, not the people bound by the system.
This comment sounds super pompous.
Right? "Entered comments to pass responsibility and blame to someone else.
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And who, apart from those who came before us created the system?
The generation before us also had a class divide, and a good deal of them fought against that divide. The average boomer is no more Diane Feinstein than a millennial is Skreli.
I see they allowed it to get wider.
Grandma was likely no different than you when she was younger. Just trying to live a decent life and make things better for her and her family. She wasn’t the mastermind behind big oil.
In 60 years there will be shit happening now that you have nothing to do with, that those born in 2065 will be complaining about. Every generation blames the ones that come before. It doesn’t solve anything. We are where we are, all we can do is try and figure out the best way forward.
No. You blame the people for not fighting the system. Not for being complacent.
Except They did fight the system and protested and in ways and with fortitude like you’ve never seen or heard of in this day and age.
Burning bras was the light part of it. And there’s many anti establishment tunes people still listen to today that we’re made in the 1960s.
The dark part of it was people allowing themselves to be run over by tanks, setting themselves on fire, purposely deforming their bodies by holding an arm up until it dies for 45 yrs.
They weren’t complacent.
