So this started coming up today. On every video. I can (so far) click the “x” and remove it to watch (still see 2 ads before the video, and one after 4 minutes - ruins music on YT), but did click the “Report issue” only for the dialogue box not to work.
I found a link to a that said 11% use adblock. Thats not a lot.Maaayyyybe there is a problem with the amount of ads youtube forces down our throats for even short videos. 🤷♂️
You probably have antitracking enabled which can trigger this dumb prompt.
I have firefox and adblocker and haven’t ran across this. 11% using adblock is like hundreds of millions of people using adblock, actually a significant margin of loss ads shown
Its probably an exageration by marketing corps tbh.
I cry for the richest company in the world not making more money.
So unfair! /s
Im baffled how 89% can survive without adblock. I would have died by electroshock, if there wasn’t adblocks available. (Hitting (my) pc too hard)
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Ah, I see it’s YouTube specifically not web in general. I must agree, I gave up on blocking YouTube and went to India (von) and together with the family plan I got to about 1.5$ a month (ruf estimate from remembering) for premium Of course, this doesn’t stop YouTube from tracking my behavior. It’s a trade of, I am currently accepting for myself. I still support any action against the monopoly YouTube has on Video hosting.
I have the YouTube app on my phone and when I’m cleaning, shopping for groceries or whatever, I open it with auto-play next video enabled and essentially let it load ads, so Google can be happy.
When I’m actually consuming YT, I block ads because fuck ads.
I found a link to a that said 11% use adblock. Thats not a lot.Maaayyyybe there is a problem with the amount of ads youtube forces down our throats for even short videos. 🤷♂️
Really? The platform you choose to use for “free” that literally funds itself with ads? NO!
It doesnt fund itself. It rakes it in.
A few ads are fine imo. The problem is I can watch a 9 minute video and be subjected to more advertising than the telly.
It doesnt fund itself. It rakes it in.
That’s still funding itself, you’re not liking the deal or your opinion of how much they should make doesn’t change that. That’s just reality.
A few ads are fine imo. The problem is I can watch a 9 minute video and be subjected to more advertising than the telly.
Correct, and that’s their choice, OR you can pay and get rid of them, OR do like most and block them all. DNS and Sponsorblock work wonders.
I’m in the same boat here. I used to be cool watching the ads, but then they just got ridiculous. If I’m forced to watch ads, I’ll just do something else. I can reserve YouTube for only necessary viewing like DIYs that will save me money. I can skip the “entertainment” style videos which are 95% of my viewing and do literally anything else with my time lol.
Ublock Origin and SponsorBlock and Enhancer for YouTube will make the YouTube experience SO MUCH better!
Ublock blocks ads, SponsorBlock blocks sponsorship deals that the YouTuber includes (Clash of clans, Norton, etc), and Enhancer lets you play with the settings on a whole other level, including blocking things like end cards.
Those end cards suck, though it’s usually the creator’s fault. Put them where there is no content at the end, not when I’m still waiting for the punchline!
I’m ok with In-video sponsors though. You can always skip them (unlike YouTube ads) and the money goes straight to the content creator.
It does skip them, just automatically.
Plus you can skip intros, outros, and about a dozen of other things.
It’s great most of the time, but occasionally it will skip sections that are definitely not an ad and instead an important part of the video.
It has non-ad settings, like intro, outro, recap, etc.
Be sure to check your settings, as not just adverts are on by default.
If it’s not that, make sure to “thumbs down” the skip when it pops up as that helps the system as a whole.
Youtube already blocks ublock, it doesn’t work for me anymore.
Seems to still be working for me. At least I haven’t encountered any notices yet.
They are targeting a portion of users, but once you’re chosen to be the test target, you’ll see.
Yeah, I just commented to another user about the same things. Seems they’re doing some A/B testing or something like it. No worries, I understand uBlock has an update available that addresses it already.
Alright thanks for the notice!
You just need to update you filter lists. Go into settings -> filter lists and click on “Purge all caches” and then on “Update now”
I had no idea Sponsor Block was available as an FF addon. Any idea if it works on FF mobile?
You can use it with ReVanced! https://revanced.app/download
I’m in Ohio. Any combination of words that has “Vance” in it and I want too throw up…
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FF mobile currently has a very selected list of available extensions, which does not include it yet.
But that’s about to change before the end of the year. FF mobile is finally opening up add on usability and distribution.
Yes, only the nightly version though.
“not using an adblocker? report the issue.” 🤷♀️
I did try that. It doesn’t work. Something else is clearly going on.
How long ago did you report it?
Itried this morning. It doesnt work. Literally clicked the button and nothing happens.
Cethin is correct. This won’t automagically disable the warning. Otherwise anyone with an adblocker would just push the button.
The button sends a report to google. Then they’ll look into it. If they ever look into it, that is. So your issue may be resolved in two days, one week, six months, who knows…
No, it literally comes up with an error on the screen. The submission box used to go after you submitted.
I’m sure it’s to send a report for them to look at to figure out if there’s a solution. It won’t just disable it surely.
Just use the piped.video frontend.
That instance is slow, and anyways it’s bad to recommend one instance. Here: https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances People on Lemmy probably understand instances
I didn’t even know about the others, thanks :-)
Here’s something that I “don’t allow” Google:
Letting corporations use MY computer equipment and MY Internet connect to conduct their business. I’ll block whatever I want and if Google and YouTube don’t like it, they can take their advertising machine, roll it up real tight and cram it.
Google can suck it
Google, people telling you this, is devastating. You’re devastated.
To put it another way, a shitty business model on their part does not constitute an obligation on yours.
Ah, enshittification at its finest.
Somehow you’re using something that Google thinks it’s an adblock. Maybe it’s a cookie blocker or tracking blocker. Disable all plugins and then try YouTube.
Their detection script is probably trying so hard that it hits false positives.
Ironically, with an up-to-date uBlock Origin, you wouldn’t see this popup.
Sooo…, you’ll literally need to use adblocker to use YouTube. Interesting.
It really is given that they’ve willingly entered a game of cat and mouse and chosen to assume the role of a blind, limbless mouse.
As others have said before me, I feel for the poor engineers who have to implement this stuff as any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.
I’m not sure what you mean by “short of DRM”, because YouTube already does what it can to prevent unauthorised clients accessing it. (Have you seen how unreliable “YouTube downloaders” can be, especially for very long videos or in resolutions above HD?) But ultimately the flaw in any DRM-style solution is that the end result still needs to be able to be played back on client-controlled systems, and that is always going to provide an avenue for exploitation. It can’t be avoided.
I use an automated YouTube downloader as part of my media lab and have had a 100% success rate for downloads over several years, so, sincerely, I don’t know what you mean.
And yes, my argument wasn’t that DRM is flawless, just that it’s a feasible next step in Google trying to achieve their purpose.
any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.
Don’t give them ideas.
They’re way ahead of you, they already started implementing it in Chrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Environment_IntegrityIt’s bullshit like this that made me give up all Chromium browsers earlier this year. I used to be a complete Google simp, but those days are well behind me. They’re motto these days might as well be “Do evil.”
I went from loving Google (had the HYC Dream, the first Android phone!)
Many years ago I cut em out. Now I have no google products and do not use their services.
I also had the HTC Dream (called the TMobile G1 in the US). Only google product I haven’t been able to ditch is gmail.
They already have plans to DRM the entire fucking web. That’s why I am currently cutting google out of my life step by step.
Yeah, YT is the last holdout for me. It’s literally the only Google service I willingly sign up for. I’ve tried Piped/Invidious, but they don’t match YTs quality.
No problem, quality will continue to degrade, until you will be happy to switch.
Yeah the lack of playlists is an issue
So, give me a heads up if you find a reliably working alternative for their FCM that enables common apps to … work, e.g. mobile payment (not crypto), alarm messaging for emergency forces, e.g. firefighters. I’d say one can easily step back from google if you rely on independent apps and services (done that for a couple of years). But without FCM some shit simply doesn’t work.
DRM isn’t effective on its own, it needs law with severe punishment to survive
I feel for the poor engineers who have to implement this stuff
I don’t. They had every opportunity to do the ethical thing and refuse to implement it, but didn’t.
On a related note, the industry norms need to be changed such that software engineers should be licensed Professional Engineers, should be unionized, or both.
(I say this as a software engineer myself, by the way.)
I also work in industry as a software engineer, tech lead, and occasional eng manager and haven’t seen anyone do this over several decades.
I don’t think many people, software engineers included, are troubled by YouTube wanting to monetize their platform or defending their right to do so. It’s opting for such an easily bypassed method that makes this such a chore for the implementor.
It’s also bold to assume they might not have suggested, prototyped or specced other solutions to this problem but were still tasked with this one for whatever reason. Either way, I’d rather assume good intent and high locus than assume they are “trapped” in to implementing software that defies their own moral beliefs.
as any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.
Oh, that’s why WebDRM.
Sooo…, you’ll literally need to use adblocker to use
YouTubethe internet. Interesting.
I got this popup today on Firefox with ublock origin.
Are you sure? Or is it because you’re not in the test group?
I’m on nightly/up to date ublock and i see it.
I’ve been wondering if it’s uBlock Origin or me not being part of the test yet. Sounds like the latter. Shit.
I got the pop-up too, but I can just kick the X and continue watching without adds. Got unlock origin.
That’s phase one. At one point, a timer will appear and you have ti wait until you can click the X. Lastly, the video will stay locked and cannot be watched.
You seeing the popup means you need to update the uBlock filters and disable other add-on’s ad filters like Enhancer’s Block Ads feature.
I got the pop-up too, but I can just kick the X and continue watching without adds. Got uBlock origin.
Good to know! Thanks!
Yeah I’ve had it sporadically happen to me but last night was the most effective. Fully updated Firefox and ublock on windows and I could only watch 3 videos before getting locked out.
Previous to last night, I hadn’t seen the pop up for at least a week.
I actually had it about 20 minutes ago. Forgot to post here. But when I Xed out of it, it played normally.
Did you update your filters?
I had the pop-up today, updated my filters then reloaded the page, and the warning was gone.
There’s no test group, it’s available now. Instructions here
https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/173jmog/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_09_2023/
There’s no test group
They are almost certainly talking about a test group on YouTube, not uBlock Origin. Sites do that sometimes, it’s called A/B Testing. Where different users will get different versions of the site to test something or other before changes are rolled out for all users.
Ah, the second sentence made it sound like they were questioning the uBlock implementation, not YouTube’s.
And not just sites, but all forms of software can implement A/B and multivariate tests, including software like uBlock Origin. I’ve implemented A/B and multivariate tests before, and have even co-designed and developed an experimentation platform, so it’s a subject close to my heart!
Pretty sure, as I saw the popup multiple times, updated uBlock filters and didn’t see them again since.
The cobra effect
Their detection script is probably trying so hard that it hits false positives.
Nostalgic.
LOL thats nuts!
As someone with an up to date ublock origin on Firefox, I literally just got one.
If you have YouTube Enhancer disable its adblocking.
That was probably it. Thanks!
According to OP it turned out to be an extension causing the problem
I started getting this last night even with UO before I realized FF was waiting for me to restart for an update.
Oops.
I actually installed ublockorigin after hitting these types of messages on a few sites. I think howtogeek does the same thing.
Wait is that a Lemmy instance? Why is it opening in my browser instead of in my Lemmy app?
Because your lemmy app doesn’t know the instance
The devs need to recognize the instance.
No idea what app they’re using to view lemmy, but with Jerboa you just go to the app settings and select sites you want to open in the app.
Do you have Firefox’s tracker blocking enabled? That can block some advertising related code and as such will also get detected as an adblocker. I’ve had that be the issue for other websites that block ad blockers in the past before I stopped being willing to ever turn Ublock Origin off.
It’s really great when you put on some calming music for sleep that’s 8 hours long and has an ad break every 5 minutes.
I thought YouTube posters could choose if their video is monetized. Isn’t this kinda on the person who posted it?
You need a certain amount of watch time over the previous year. I have 2k subs and can’t even get half of the required watch time, my videos show ads I cannot turn off
I guess so as I have found others with no ads.
Download the mp3 of the video. No more ads.
Good point.
YouTube will prioritize monetized vids
That setting is now only available to accounts that meet certain criteria (subscribers, views, whatever), or so I’ve heard. Depending on the videos you frequent, they may or may not meet those criteria.
And yes, this means that if you’re a small channel Google can force you to show ads without giving you any of the revenue.
If true, that’s kinda fucked.
download some calming music or buy a fucking CD for god’s sake
Then I’d have to buy a fucking cd player and also listen to the same damn thing every evening.
LOL I remember when there was no better alternative to buying shitloads of CDs. In some ways I miss the relationship I had with music back then. My sister beat the shit out of me one time for sneaking in her room to copy a bunch of her CDs. Made a big song and dance about the ethics of music piracy!
In that scenario though, your best bet would be to buy more than one CD, rip them to a computer with a USB optical drive, and make yourself playlists that are 8 hours long. I certainly would never advocate downloading music with filesharing software like soulseek.
I too miss the days of CDs.
There was even a time when Music Zone (store in the UK) would let you return cds. Well it was free reign to buy them, copy them and then return the original.
I recall having a printer that could print the album art on them.
Or even recording from the radio on to tape or mini disc. And even Smash Hits for lyrics.
You’re right, relationships with music were different than they are now.
I can’t lie though some things are better now. Take Apple Classical for instance. I can listen to the music entire collection of classical music by opening an app. It’s amazing.
I certainly would never advocate downloading music with filesharing software like soulseek.
Neither would I. The selection of high quality music is unbearable - you can find just about anything, even rarities, in good qualities, which is quite scary if you have heard nothing but heavily compressed mp3-files until now.
How dare you complain about their aggressive monetization practices, won’t you think of the record corporate profits.
🤤
I use a Firefox extension to redirect any YouTube links to open in Ungoogled Chromium, which so far seems to be immune to Google’s anti-Adblock campaign.
edit: Extension is called Open In
I can’t get this popup on Firefox and I have tried hard to get it. I also noticed that I never get video ads even without an adblocker if just reject all cookies at the cookies prompt (only works in EU I guess)
Either way you could try this guide which apparently fixes the issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/173jmog/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_09_2023/
I appreciate it, but I’m still going to stick with Ungoogled Chromium for YouTube. mainly because Firefox still doesn’t support HDR and RTX Super Resolution.
That’s fair.
Wow, people are so smart!
Any chance you could DM the the name of the extension (is you can’t mention it here?)
It is a false positive as Googlie tries to find a way to detect and block adblockers on browsers they don’t control. install ublock origin and it should solve the issue.
Nope. It happens with ublock origin too.
Then you need to remove your custom profile and update to the latest version.
Brief search last night quoted 2.9 billion total? revenue for ‘22, 2023 first quarter worldwide ad revenue , 6.93 million usd.
Unsure what you think that is relevant to. ???
I believe Ublock has patched this now, you can update to the newest version and reset the extension and it should work.
Thank you!
updated, reset, backed up my old uBO config, started fresh. didn’t see any pop ups after i did that. then just got another one this morning, so it’s still rolling out for some users. freaking annoying.
honestly at this point i just do uBO purge-cache/update every time i went to youtube after a long enough gap ( haha hours. mere hours i’m addicted) from the last time.
