• Chozo
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    192 years ago

    ITT: People upset that free things don’t last forever.

    • @[email protected]
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      482 years ago

      In recent years there’s been a shift from “white/black list” to “allow/block list” in an effort to avoid the stereotypes associated with those terms. I wouldn’t say it’s the new norm yet, but it’s slowly becoming more popular.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        Ah like the master/slave becoming server/client?

        I still don’t like allow list though. Block list seems fine. Maybe access list?

        • @[email protected]
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          82 years ago

          I feel the use of master/slave to talk about technological concepts took power away from the original conotations of the words and by not using them its actualy making their effect more negative but what would i know.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 years ago

          Similar to that, yeah, although I think the master/slave thing started earlier. (It’s a bit more blatant, tbf.)

          I agree that allowlist doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as nicely, but as long as it makes it obvious what the word means, I’ll go with it.

      • Throwaway
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        132 years ago

        Yeah, basically the demand for hate outstrips the supply, so they decided that whitelist/blacklist is racist. Its just a power trip, being able to change peoples vocab with nonsense.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            What makes no sense is the words “white” and “black” as referring to people. People are brown, all of them.

          • Polar
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            82 years ago

            I remember when I tried setting up a server a couple decades ago and I didn’t understand what the difference between a white and black list were. Made no sense to me.

            Allow/block can’t be mistaken. It’s literally a better choice of words for many reasons.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            What?

            Fire fighters fight fire. Crime fighters fight fire.

            The weird one is freedom fighters…

          • swab148
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            42 years ago

            I have joined the war on fire, on the side of fire.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          They are a trillion dollar company, they can afford to give some slack on this issue that maybe affects 5% of their users

          • Throwaway
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            12 years ago

            Its honestly not a big deal, its just something to go rename for no good reason. At least for my job, it took about only a couple man-days to get every mention of blacklist/whitelist renamed and the code reviewed.

            The bigger deal for me was master branch to main. Broke every pipeline script we had, broke our backups, and it caused not one but two outages in production. I guess its our fault for not making the branch name maintainable, but its never come up before and will never come up again. I honestly think between all the work we put in to that change, we spent a man-year on that. Thats before the production outages. Devops sucks.

            At least I got paid to deal with it.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        I hate that.

        With flying they changed NOTAM from notices to airmen to notices to air missions or something.

        Calm tf down. Will they change Human to hupersons next? Man-made to huperson-made? GTFO here.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 years ago

          Okay, I have to ask: outside of training, did you ever say NOtice To AirMen? I haven’t. It’s always NOTAM for me. They were nice enough to keep the acronym the same.

        • Polar
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          112 years ago

          If something so trivial upsets you so deeply in an attempt to make others feel more included, maybe you should look into yourself.

          You should probably take your advice and calm down.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            Talking with the people involved, at least in my experience, it is an unnecessary adjustment. Nobody “affected” gave a hoot.

  • celerate
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    4232 years ago

    Dear YouTube, if anyone there ever reads this.

    I tried not to block ads, I would let the preroll go and usually not skip it.

    I started skipping ads when they started getting long. I recall some were several minutes long at times.

    I started leaving videos part way through when there were mid-roll ads, and those got long enough that I’d often forget what I was even watching.

    I started blocking the ads outright when I would be watching a relaxing video, and a very loud mid-roll ad would blow out my goddamn eardrums.

    Fuck you YouTube. You abused your users, you chased off good content creators, and now you’re offering people no carrot and all stick. How about you offer to match the volume of the ads to the videos, limit the length of ads to something reasonable, and nicely tell viewers that you are making ads less annoying and that unblocking the ads helps pay the content creators.

    • @[email protected]
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      472 years ago

      if they’re anything like cable ads, they actually make the ads louder than the regular programming on purpose to try to make sure you hear it if you tune out or just walk away. no relaxed, unfocused watching for you!

    • Random Dent
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      1762 years ago

      I used to make animations for YouTube, which weren’t monetized because I hate ads, and one day they copyright struck me for some very provably public domain music, but the way they did it was to insert ads into my video without my consent so they could monetize them to send the money to the scammer who flagged me. So I just deleted my entire account, fuck them.

    • @[email protected]
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      82 years ago

      They get away with this because people don’t use the alternatives. Odysee and Rumble are actually good alternatives. No, they’re not as good as YouTube, but they’re good enough. We just need creators to also upload to those platforms. Since YouTube keeps banning and demobilising them, this problem might solve itself.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Curious, how does monetization work on those platforms? The bigger “Content creators” typically will be making videos as a job, so to draw them you’d need a halfway decent way to monetize.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          They have ads, but I think YouTube pays better. Which I suppose is why creators stick with YouTube for now.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          If your feed is “100% fascist Nazi bullshit” may I suggest you watch less Nazi bullshit, and stop subscribing to them?

          • Oshka
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            142 years ago

            Lmfao. I had literally never heard of Rumble. I opened up a private browser window and pulled it up for the first time ever…the “Featured” was fucking Newsmax TV. Now obviously this isn’t indicative of the whole site but damn that does not help your point when that’s the featured for a brand new potential user

            • @[email protected]
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              12 years ago

              I’m not claiming it doesn’t have Newsmax on it. I’m claiming the service is solid. If you subscribe to people you care about (and you can find creators you like) it’s a good platform alternative. I’m the first to argue we need more YouTube creators to cross-post.

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                  There are Nazis on YouTube, Reddit, and Lemmy. Why are you here? You are not automatically associated with Nazis just because they might use a platform. This is like saying veganism is evil because Hitler was a vegan.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      Lmao “you purposely made your stuff shit. Now, if you offered a basic service without all the shit, I might pay for that.”

      Bruh, you don’t pay for something because it’s not shit, you pay for something because it’s good. By paying for a basic service simply because it’s not shit, you are incentivising them to enshittify their service and offer a premium “not shit” version, instead of actually improving their service.

      It’s just like the people who buy the new iPhone because it actually has a headphone jack this time.

  • @[email protected]
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    if only ads arent annoying and loud, i have no problems unblocking them. but damn, they’re unbearable atleast in my region.

  • @[email protected]
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    82 years ago

    Yeah. This is becoming a problem with Google. Whatever they have created they just want to make it shit. Like everybody can’t just pay and the amount of ads just makes it unwatchable.

    On my firefox this rarely shows up though. I use the privacy extensions uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes.

  • @[email protected]
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    942 years ago

    Youtube is getting on cable tv levels of bad. On a regular ~10min video you will first deal with a few preroll ads and at least one is unskippable, then the creator will have a 2+ minute sponsor segment (I don’t mind those since they are usually well presented). There will also be multiple midroll ad spots.

    Depending on video length, it’s gonna soon be literally more ad than video. They are still stealing and selling your data though, and also making the web worse for everyone with DRM shit.

    Fuck. Google.

    I had already migrated to Invidious since last year because I degoogled everything. Seems like now its time to look for real youtube alternatives.

  • @[email protected]
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    A good ad blocker would be one that will still load the page as intended but not display the ads. There would be no way for the site to know you can’t see them. Blocking their activation just signals the site that you are using an adblocker.

    Edit: I was thinking more of a VM sandbox like another comment said

  • Bob
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    42 years ago

    “Used by billions woldwide”?

  • fullstopslash
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    612 years ago

    Adblockers are eventually just going to become undetectable because of this. Adblockers are about to get so much better!