Yeah where the fuck is the antisemitism? Fuckin dogshit takes that think one side is clean where the other isnt? Yeah, plenty of that. But antisemitism itself? I havent seen it
I am seeing some of it tbh. Antisemite shitbirds who think just because a lot of folks are (rightfully) mad at Israel, that they can sneak in their heinous philosophy. Go muddy some other waters with that bullshit, is what I say.
Agreed, Isreal is doing problematic shit, that says nothing about Jewish people in general. Antisemites can eat shit
Just remember if someone steal your lawn you get to wholesale murder them and their offspring forever with 0 repercussions.
And if someone asks a moral question of you, disengage by calling them a zionist. Don’t forget to spend your whole day posting inflammatory propaganda and getting butthurt over fantasy-conversations you had with yourself.
I am not antisemitic. I just hate everyone whos involved in a war
Lemmy.world go 30 minutes without making things up about other instances challenge.
Difficulty: impossible.
Whiniest instance by far. I get the hate for hexbear and grad, but ml is normal
You guys are very far from normal, about half your “memes” are just communist whingeing thinly veiled as humour.
ML banned my .ml account for saying that soldiers in the US revolution didn’t murder families and children. They are full mask off
Which is ironic because Lenin said that Washington was a Chad for overthrowing the monarchy.
If there’s one thing Lenin would have understood, it’s that you can’t control everything your revolution does.
I mean objectively some probably did. One of the major provisions of the treaty of Paris was the protection of folks who were loyalists from retaliations, and the nascent US’ inability to actually keep their end of that term is basically the starting point of Canada post revolution.
What qualifies that is that several revolutionary leaders majorly disincentivized that behavior, Washington in particular famously forced his soldiers to compensate nearby townsfolk for anything they needed to take, even during the stay at Valley Forge where they were basically starving to such an extreme that Washington brought Vaccine science to the US military because otherwise the sheer starvation they were going through was liable to leave them all especially exposed to disease.
OP isn’t from .world but ok
But they posted to it
I think it’s just the biggest and most accessible, so you’re obviously going to see the most of this kind of whiney shit posting.
TFW the flagship instance isn’t the largest because the creators drove people off with weird political views.
If by flagship instance you mean .ml, they drove people off because of the Reddit migration. They couldn’t afford to upgrade their infrastructure, so they told people to register in other instances.
Why do you keep making up lies?
Which ones the flagship instance?
I assume that it’s lemmy.ml
i think lemmy.world is the biggest now
Lol ml is filled with far left morons it is not even funny.
Rightwingers aren’t people. Also, Rengoku would never support your political position.
Ouch far left detected. Subhuman.
Don’t worry, your possessions will be fairly redistributed after the revolution :)
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genociding brown people doesn’t count.
If they live here in the US, then chances are they really do believe this, at least by action if not word. We’re still withholding land from the tribes that is properly theirs (even by our colonialist treaties’ standards), and just look what we’re doing at the southern border.
Criticizing. Israel. Is. Not. Anti-semitism.
Is criticizing Saudi Arabia “Islamophobia”?
Apparently criticising Ukraine is unacceptable though
Oh, do you talk a lot about their corruption scandals?
I know nothing about anything bad Ukraine has done, I don’t follow the war as much as I used to. I just see a lot of downvotes on anything critical of Ukraine
You need to be more specific. There are some valid criticism that can be pointed at Ukraine, but if the criticism is along the lines of “Nazi Ukraine” then that’s just perpetuating Russian propaganda and should be downvoted. Most of the criticism of Ukraine I’ve seen falls squarely in the Russian propaganda camp.
Probably because all criticism seems to come from people with a clear and contemptible agenda, even when it’s true, and it often isn’t.
There’s plenty of room for critical support but the critics mostly just seem to be cheering for the invasion. Probably because all the fair criticism revolves around the fact that war is hell.
I wouldn’t say all criticism is from people with contemptible adgenda. That’s a hyperbolic statement, it could be received like that by the reader but it’s prejudiced for people who try to remain as fair as possible.
The war is a complete shitfest for all humans involved it’s awful thing its endured all this time but unfortunately as a comfortable westerner, I think it’s the right thing for ukraine right now to stand up for their rights.
My point is UK and US have done some unspeakable things but history is written by the winners and we’re not taught about the atrocities our allies have done in previous wars. As a brit Dresden springs to mind and I wonder if Ukraine will have any similar controversies spring up after the war. We fucking killed 25,000 people with basically no justification.
With risk of sounding like a dick I’m going to ask you a question (sorry my directness can come across as being rude) Does my comment make me a person who has a “clear and contemptible adgenda” to you? I know I’ll get downvoted by others but I’m more interested in your opinion
While they’re waging a war against the country that’s known for its troll factories[0] and long traditions in information warfare, just downmodding all negativity against Ukraine is sort of a safe bet.
You might want to note that for things that matter, like corruption that blocks actual EU membership, the negativity still exists and is legit.
[0] https://www.amazon.com/Putins-Trolls-Frontlines-Russias-Information/dp/1632461293
Putin’s propaganda wants russians to belive that criticizing Putin is rusophobia. This post looks exactly like Putin’s propaganda.
I hate Russia though, I’m proud of that
Then kiss with Putin, he hates Russia too
I agree…It’s a tense situation but words have meaning. Anti-Netanyahu does not mean Antisemitism.
What is your definition of anti-Semitism?
People who like to put the milk in with the teabag before the hot water
Ew. Heathens.
- If you make it in a mug, water, then tea, then milk.
- If you make it in a teapot, milk, then tea.
Pouring the big thing into the little thing mixes better, so really that’s the best practice, but you want the water to extract the tea. Milk doesn’t extract tea very well, and it also cools the water down which further reduces extraction.
You can get away with doing 2. however you like, but if you get 1. wrong then you’ve done fucked up.
Wrong. Tea first. Then water. Then milk. I’m willing to go to war over this.
Don’t go to tea war with him, he’s an antisemite, clearly
Never milk. Barbarians.
The meme is good but I refuse to read the xomments below it, I am very close to quitting Lemmy for good already and only look at my own feed and my local timeline by now because the rest is fucking disgusting!
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Where? Lemmy.ml usually cracks down on racists pretty hard report them when you see them
Could really use some citations of .ml being anti semitic
Not my experience. If you’re talking about Israel a lot of people are getting really fast really mad. If you try to talk rational about other states people stay mostly calm. I would call this behaviour a double-standard because of antisemitism. There’s no rational reason why people focus so much about this little state.
Sorry I’m having a moment. In your experience Lemmy.ml does not crack down on racists in a hard manner? Because a lot of the anger towards Israel comes from an antisemitic place since other states don’t get criticized so harshly?
It sounds believable since it would be pretty hard to differentiate why exactly someone is reacting in a harsh manner and ban them accordingly. Just my brain is refusing to parse words atm
I disagree with authoritarians and leninists vehemently. However. It’s the way many of them are speaking about Israel right now is not at all that different from how they speak about the United States in general. The major differentiating factor is that Israel is performing a new fuck up on the world stage live for all to view. Very much current events and on everyone’s lips right now. America has a huge back catalog of it. But Israel is not getting treated anymore harsher or hypocritically by them than places like the United States Etc.
I stick to this instance, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this is another person calling anyone who doesn’t blindly support Israeli genocide efforts antisemitic.
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Its antisemitic to equate all Jews with Israel so…
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That is indeed really specific, thank you.
So you would support a two state solution based on the 1947/48 suggested borders?
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Hahahaha. Lol.
They’re rabidly pro Palestine/Hamas over there.
Alright, but antisemitic?
They call it anti-zonist.
Mostly, they just downplay every horrible thing Hamas does, and make a huge deal out of every bad thing Israel does.
Yeah, it was just a little genocide guys, what’s the big deal
Israel can have a little genocide, as a treat
It’s actually pretty huge deal all thing considered.
It is, but then Hamas actually launched an operation whose entire goal was to slaughter civilians. Kinda hard to feel any sympathy for them after that.
Ah yes, targeting civilians, Israel would never do that,
They at least have the decency to pretend it was an accident.
Imagine support genocide
I’m supporting nobody.
What do you think the bombing campaign has been? Only 10x more effective.
Dumb takes from a .ml account, what a surprise.
It’s time that everyone involved realizes that Israel will not disappear. Deal with it.
Both sides must put an end to their hate and quit looking backwards - they must look forward. Of course there is a lot of healing to do and amends to make - and this can be done without alienating each other.
Would a single-state solution still be called Israel?
There are no solutions to issues like settlements, return of occupied land, or far-right parties that would not alienate millions of people.
National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.
Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.
In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.
J. Stalin
January 12, 1931He probably didn’t read “On the Jewish Question” from K. Marx.
was karl drunk when they wrote that? it seems so contradictory to the modern understanding of marxism
Yep Stalin would kill or inprison for life any motherfucker no matter his race religion or skin color. He was a decently well spoken hypocrite I’ll give him that at least. Or at least he had good speech writers. Definitely a monster though.
20 years later and the Doctors Plot happens😳
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You need to understand the history for context in the current conflict. This didn’t start a week ago.
I’m a Jew and pretty sensitive to antisemitism, even dogwhistles. I admit I don’t go to lemmy.ml very often, but from what I’ve seen from lemmy.ml posters posting on lemmy.world, there’s been no antisemitism at all. In fact, I have not seen any antisemitism from anyone here that I can recall, which is pretty amazing in and of itself.
Opposition to Israel’s genocidal regime is not antisemitism.
If this had been Reddit, I’d have bought credits to award you a gold star.
Thank you!
Hold on a second…
Given the current state of the website and its admins, that might constitute a bigger act of antisemitism than anything lemmy.ml mods are up to.
Out of the loop, what do dogwhistles mean regarding antisemitism?
Saying things that aren’t explicitly antisemitic but are basically hidden code for antisemitism. Such as “Globalists.”
Why is that called a dog whistle?
See also major conspiracy theories implying there is a group of secret overlords who control everything behind the scenes.
Any time the supposed responsible party for some conspiracy is an unspecified they/them, that’s usually a sign that they’re trying to be sneaky about serving you a rewrite of blood libel.
Just as a sidenote, whoever wrote the Disney Secret Invasion story needs a hard looking at.
This might sound a bit dorky, but bear with me for a moment.
So in the comics, the Kree Empire vs Skrull Empire is this big, galactic conflict that’s been going on forever, right? Occasionally one side will invade Earth for reasons, everyone has a fun time punching things, that’s it.
Two empires that suck equal amounts hitting each other in space. Good clean nerd fun.
Disney, a company founded by a notorious anti-semite, decided with the MCU that they should make the Skrull refugee victims of a genocide.
Okay, sure, that’s okay, it addresses real world issues, it’s a good message for the kids, imperialism bad, refugees are people too, right?
Hey.
Wait a minute.
Aren’t the Skrull shape shifting lizard people?
A fringe conspiracy theory that after a brief inspection always turns out to be a code for “Jewish people?”
So… Now we have the Disney (((Skrulls))), refugee genocide victims of the Space Nazis.
Okay. Well, that’s not too bad, but obviously they’re going to need to reveal that the Skrull Empire is still a thing in space, right? Because having the Skrull refugees do the Secret Invasion story would be kind of fucked up, but that’s easy to fix, you just make them the survivors of a single planet from…
Nope. The refugees are now taking over Earth by replacing leaders with (((Skrulls))).
Oh, look. Episode Two.
“The (((Skrulls))) were a worse threat than Hydra! You know, the literal Nazis!”
Ironic since Captain Marvel gave me the impression that the Skrull were being coded as Palestinians, down to the oppressive force labeling them all terrorists.
Yeah, until they went off the rails with Secret Invasion you could easily have just assumed it was a simple refugee analogy that someone didn’t think all the way through.
Of course, even if the writers would be horrified to learn what the conspiracy types actually mean by shape shifting lizard men, that would still leave Secret Invasion with the core plot that refugees are an existential threat worse than secret Nazis, so they can fuck off regardless.
bit of a stretch
You should go to Indonesia and feel the anti Jew from the second you land. 🤭
Mind that the antisemitism always comes from Muslims, non Muslims would do nothing
Yeah. I am really sick of seeing the argument that any condemnation of the government of Israel is anti-Semitic. It has nothing to do with them being Jewish and everything to do with how they have handled that conflict over the years.
Go actually look at the .ml worldnews community. There is full mask off “death to Israel” shit all over the place.
“Death to Israel” is also not antisemitic. Jews are not Israelis and Israelis are not Jews. I am not an Israeli. I have no ties or allegiances to Israel, nor do I want them. I think “death to Israel” is an extremist viewpoint, but not an antisemitic one.
Depends on who’s saying it, but not necessarily an anti-semitic phrase, sure.
When shouted by some dude at a campus protest in a nation two thousand miles away, probably not.
However, when Hamas or the Houthis say it, it definitely is.
Is it anti-Semitic when a Semite calls for the killing of a different group of Semites?
1: Kind of like saying there can’t be white on white racism.
2: Only nerds know that Palestinians and Arabs in general are also Semitic.
It does rather point out how stupid all this irredentism is though. These are ultimately all descendants of the same peoples, killing each other over the same God.
I thougnt at this point everyone understands that state N is not Nians.
Judaism is not Zionism and vice versa
Nah you’re just mad because you’re losing the information war.
People started finding out what’s happening in Gaza, and that’s not good news for you.
Please tell me more about the information war you’re fighting
Imagine supporting apartheid and nationalism and believing you’re in the right.
The Hamas Social Media Teams (no, they do not reside in Gaza) are working 24/7 to give every bit of news the right spin - especially in Arab countries but also in the rest of the world. To control the news and narrative is the most important part of any terrorist attack. Their social media strategy is very well developed and is the still continuing part of the Hamas Terror Attack.
- they want to portray Israel as a whole as some kind of monstrous entity
- they celebrate all the murders they have committed with their peer groups
- they spread the murder and rape videos also outside their peer groups, plainly to cause terror
- they use their social media activities for fundraising
Do you have any supporting evidence for this?
“If you can’t eliminate injustice, at least tell everyone about it.”
Is it real antisemitism or just not supporting Israel?
About when they start going on about “Zionists” Is where I draw the line and where it typically takes a turn.
As a Jewish person, I find it healthy to criticize the Israeli government. Most young Israelis do. Their government has been steamrolled by a wannabe dictator that is corrupt as hell and his team of racist, backwards conservative orthodox buddies.
They were just protesting in the streets weeks ago and now we’re expected to turn around and support the government? Nah. This doesn’t change anything.
I’m one of the Israelis who frequently attended the anti-government protest.
I expect you not to support the Israeli government, but to support the Israeli people’s right to defend ourselves from terrorists.
Regardless of whether Israel has a right wing or left wing government, we will not allow thousands of us to be massacred.
We won’t stand by and twiddling our thumbs waiting for the next Hamas attack to kill more of us without responding with our full force.
None of this contradicts the fight to end the occupation. You can be anti-Hamas and anti-occupation at the same time.
Nuance is possible!
I would say isreal has a right to defend itself, but not if they keep stealing land and oppressing the people who attack them.
If you want to defend yourself, first, you have to stop attacking the people who you claim to be defending against.
Hamnas is human garbage, but one can not separate the creation of Israel from the ghettoizing of the Palestinian people.
Nobody deserves terrorist attacks, but this didn’t come out of the blue.
Isreal needs to own up to it’s complicity in the violence before they try to claim to be the sole victims of it.
Then how about your government stop killing and abusing Palestinians. It’s almost as if decades of apartheid oppression, murder, and human rights abuses have consequences
They specifically stated that they where attending anti-governmsnt protests. 🙄
Awh that’s great! They’ve attended anti government protests. I guess we can ignore the call for a heavy handed ruthless response in retaliation in that same comment or the implicit support of their government’s ongoing role in the bombing and murder of civilians. Also, nowhere did I see them specifically decrying their government over the Gaza response, only in response to “corruption”
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Is it real antisemitism or just not supporting Israel?
Nothing lemmy.world loves more than bagging on the *.ml instance, so I’m going to take a wild guess at the latter. If it was self-referential “Me looking at all the antisemitism on lemmy.world” it never would have received this much positive attention.
Could you elaborate on the “zionist” thing? I haven’t really followed the Israel situation (I tried, but it’s just so complicated). What I heard, is that “zionist” is used when talking about the Israel activity in “taking” territory from the surrounding area, is that correct or did I just misunderstand? If I’m not wrong, then what happens when people start going on about it?
The idea that discussing Zionism is a sign of an anti-semite is a shit take. The Zionist movement worked very hard to establish a colony in the middle east, in an area where they knew there were already natives and those natives were hostile to being colonized. It’s impossible to truly study the founding of Israel without learning about the Zionist movement.
This isn’t about religion, or even very much about race. It’s about the powerful asserting their will over the powerless. To some extent you could argue that the Zionists were used by the British to screw over the Arabs, but that doesn’t make the Zionists innocent.
Equating discussions of Zionism with anti-Semitism is part of the Israeli propaganda playbook for dismissing all criticism of Israel’s founding.
The idea that discussing Zionism is a sign of an anti-semite is a shit take.
There is some history to back this up, especially among older folks. I know I’ve heard a few irl antisemitic tirades start off with a testing of the waters by complaining about Zionists
Although for real, Jewish people are cool and great, but fuck Zionists.
I also disagree with many things the Israeli government does. But when people ignore the complete history of Israel and exclusively ventilate the pro-Palestinian propaganda, a red line is crossed for me.
The complete history of Israel forcing Palestinians into ghettos and systematically slaughtering them? The fact that they told civilians to flee to the south and then bombed the very area they claimed would be safe? The fact that they claim the right to self determination but refuse to allow the Palestinians the same right? The fact that netanyahu funded Hamas to destabilize the region so that he’d have pretense to carry out his war crimes?
I don’t condone the attacks by Hamas, but to pretend that Israel isn’t trying to carry out a genocide is crossing a red line for me.
This whole conflict has just always felt like a massive grey area as an outsider. Both sides have done horrible things over the years, with the retaliation often being even worse. Most governments (including mine) are actually supporting both sides, for example through humanitarian aid. That’s just kind of weird when you think about it, in a way they’re enabling both sides to keep going. And I just don’t know if there’s any way out of this besides one side completely destroying the other. Peace talks have been had so many times and it just doesn’t lead anywhere. It just feels inevitable.
There is no argument for “both sides bad” when one side is currently right now this instant blowing up hospitals, schools, and children. One side is objectively worse and it’s the side hiding behind the skirts of “antisemitism” as they carry out an Arabic genocide
I disagree.
Both sides are bad, no matter who is currently the aggressor.
Now because there is aggression, the aggressor has an obligation to stop it, and we have an obligation to force a stop in the conflict as well. But that doesn’t make the other party less Bad in this. Both sides killed a lot of innocent people, both have inhumane ulterior motives and both are supporting further escalation. But ofc if there’s only one party doing the fighting, then that’s the party that acutely needs to be stopped.
This distinction is very important to me, because you are not suddenly the good guy because you stopped killing civilians. You are just not actively doing war crimes which means we don’t have to intervene because of you anymore, which is at least one less reason. But you are not holy because “this year it was only 300 war crimes”.
But ofc if there’s only one party doing the fighting, then that’s the party that acutely needs to be stopped.
Hamas never stopped fighting and they still have about 200 hostages. What makes you think that the IDF would stop fighting now?
“Both have inhuman ulterior motives”
Palestine wants to be free
Israel wants to genocide Palestine and live in their homes
Yes I can see how wanting liberty and self governance is exactly the same as wanting more land for your historically landless people regardless of how many natives you have to kill. Completely balanced
The attacks weren’t perpetrated by a free Palestinian people or some recognized advocacy group, but by an extremist wing of the Muslim Brotherhood that has been pushed by Israel for decades.
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So forcing an entire people’s into ghettos and taking their land, while putting them under blockade and only reluctantly letting I’m small amounts of aid and food, all while bombing them weekly is actually good, because sometimes they fight back, making them the aggressor?
The post you replied to called no actor in this good. That’s your own forced dichotomy. To condemn an act does not mean you condone every act taken in response.
What about the people ignoring complete history of the Palestinian people and blindly supporting Isreal?
What about people ignoring the possibility of a comet hitting the earth?
What about the second coming of Jesus?
The christian churches around the world would hate that. He’d hand their asses to them for being backwards bigots and overall betrayers of his message.
They’re also doing more harm than good. This is an immensley complicated situation that requires nuance.
Dare I say all this could have been avoided if they weren’t mistreated for nearly 70 years?
I’m extremely curious what you see as the complete history.
I don’t see how European guilt for allowing a genocide excuses another.
I must admit, it’s quite refreshing to hear a critical take on the Israeli government from a Jewish person. I don’t know if it’s due to the news sources and forums I typically frequent (e.g. BBC, Guardian, etc), but I feel like it’s quite rare to hear an opinion from someone who actually lives there or who practices the religion.
It’s also quite reassuring (as a fairly ignorant outside observer who is only beginning to learn the tiniest bit about the complex and bloody history of this region) to hear that not every Jewish person or every Israeli likes the way that the state is developing.
Edit: I made some language changes because upon re-reading the parent comment I realised that the poster didn’t actually say whether they lived in Israel or not and I had made a faulty assumption.
IDK about the person you’re responding to, but
who actually lives there or who practices the religion.
There are a lot of Jews that don’t fit into either of those categories. Ethnic and cultural Jewish people that don’t practice or believe in Judaism as a religion are very common. I call myself Jewish, because my mother and my grandmother are Jewish, but I don’t practice the religion. I’d recommend googling Jewish Atheism and Jewish Secularism for more info.
People should really stop conflating anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. Unfortunately it’s very common and even part of the official classifications used by some countries. To me it seems obvious that this is another attempt to cut off any criticism of the state of Israel by labeling critics as anti-Semitic. Here’s an interesting read about how flawed that logic is:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/mar/07/debunking-myth-that-anti-zionism-is-antisemitic
You cannot separate Zionism from the formation of the state of Israel and how the history of the conflict has been shaped since.
In order to obtain a more holistic perspective of the conflict people need to know about Zionism, it’s history, and how it currently affects Israeli leadership.
There are still people alive on both sides that lived through Zionist conflicts with the British Mandate and the Nakba.
Literally kicked Bibi out, and he got back into power. It’s crazy.
Is it real antisemitism or just not supporting Israel?
Often it’s real antisemitism, yeah
I’m a big proponent of understanding folk better. Zionism is one of those terms with subtext. Acquaintances I know who use it (some of whom I can believe not understanding the subtext) do a better job explaining that they don’t support ethnostates rather than they don’t support zionism.
But to be fair my experience is mostly people half a globe away trying to look like they’re staying current and relevant in the news and trying to show sympathy with people they view as oppressed and hurt, without taking the time to truly dig into the history of the conflict and having never even heard the word intifada. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt while sharing with them the tiny bit I’ve learned. They do the same for me. We’ve got a wide variety of views at one of my lunch groups and it’s phenomenal.
The problem is a lot of people don’t differentiate between the israeli government and the israeli people as a whole - i’ve seen some straight up ‘they had it coming’ style bullshit that is verrry careful to place Good Jews and Bad Jews (the festival goers) to try and get a pass on antisemitsm and maaaan it is transparent as fuck.
What are you talking about? I know Jewish people that openly condemn the behavior of their gov. A person is good or bad depending on their actions - you cannot lump everyone together based on whatever characteristics you want and after that starting a genocide campaign.
The festival goes were just normal people like you and me that were trying to live and enjoy life. Same with the innocent people that are dying in Gaza.
I’m talking about commentary i’ve seen. People very careful to say ‘i’m not an antisemite buuuuuuut’
Yeah. Sure.
Yeah no. These two should be disconnected.
dude if you go “I’m not an antisemite but those festival goers absolutely had it coming” then you are at the very least an utter cunt.
Wasn’t saying that. Was saying that being antisemite and condemning Israel’s actions are two different things.
and I was pointing out that some people are using this as an opportunity to be antisemitic. Calling israel out on its bullshit is one thing, but we’re legit seeing people saying the victims of the attack had it coming for being israelis having a festival relatively near gaza.
No child is to blame about any of this. And when I think about this (i’m sorry) very stupid conflict, all I can think is people killing children because of land. FUCKING DIRT. Not a specific people, just people, humans, killing children becuase a piece o land, that to be fair it fits everyone! That is of a stupidity that I can not fathom
Yes, it’s really just about how the land is called and who makes the rules. There are Israelis living in Palestine and Palestinians are citizens of Israel already.
It’s dumb af
But that’s how politics work nowadays. You need to assume that every group is homogenous and when someone from that group points out that it isn’t, you call them a hypocrite.
