It was one of those few 3rd party Apps that still worked. Apparently dev was in talks with Reddit in obtaining Paid-API-Access, but now they cut off his API-Access mid talks without informing him

  • @[email protected]
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    112 years ago

    Narwhal on IOS is still going I just keep it to see how long it lasts zero chance I get the official app.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      I deleted Narhwal even though it wasn’t cut off from the API because I had no intention of using the developer’s proposed subscription model that was supposed to come at some point in the future. Uncertainty about the pricing etc., made it feel like I had Damocles’ sword over my head. Rather just rip off the bandaid and move on. Plus no more porn (if I’m being honest).

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Is reddit going to charge the owner of Sync since it tallies API calls? I dont want to screw anyone over for Reddit…

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        Based on what? User agent? This wouldn’t be a reliable base to know who to charge. It’s all about the given API token. If it’s your own personal one (which it probably would be aber revancing the app), it is restricted anyways to x calls per month (day? IDK). If you reach that limit you simply won’t be able to fetch more data.

        Buuuuuut: You would still be using reddit, which we all hopefully agreed not to do anymore, right?

        RIGHT?

        • @[email protected]
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          which we all hopefully agreed not to do anymore, right?

          And that’s the hiveminded thinking which made Reddit suck.

            • @[email protected]
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              I didn’t leave reddit based on some vague political statement, I left because reddit became unusable for me when Sync shut down. If I can circumnavigate the idiotic changes made by Reddits leadership then I will do so as long as it doesn’t screw anyone over.

              • @[email protected]
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                You can circumnavigate it.

                Just use revanced to patch sync to use a personal API key.

                Or compile an open source client like infinity to use your own api key. It’s free and you can continue to use the apps.

                It doesn’t screw anyone over because at least for now, Reddit gives free api keys to users (with limitations most users wouldn’t exceed) - they can’t even tell what the app actually is.

                But there’s no reason to believe they won’t eventually remove free api access for users as well. You can do what you want, but it’s a sinking ship hoping to use third party apps long term.

                Especially since the apps are no longer being developed, if reddit makes a change the app can’t cope with, bam. done. It’ll work for now though.

                Personally for me, it’s easier to just cut that chord now.

  • @[email protected]
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    912 years ago

    That goes to show it was never about gettimg paid to use the AI, it was just to shut down all 3rd party apps. Even those who wnated to cooperate

    • @[email protected]
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      82 years ago

      There are a few staying like narwhal. Really strange to cut off access during negotiations but reddit is a dumpster fire so no surprise

    • @[email protected]
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      152 years ago

      Yeah! “We can’t just give away stuff for free blah blah blah.” They just don’t want 3rd party apps.

  • @[email protected]
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    2442 years ago

    Ah yes another prime example of them working with those who were willing to work with them. That’s what they said, right?

  • @[email protected]
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    4672 years ago

    Another sign Reddit was never interested in having third party apps at all. They want all mobile traffic through their own app.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Exactly. They are trying to monetize everyone they can before their IPO. They don’t admit it, but we all know the truth.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      Dystopia for Reddit seems like it has the best staying power since it serves an accessibility need that the bloated official app can’t. I’m down to that and Old Reddit. If they kill off both, I’m probably done.

    • @[email protected]
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      92 years ago

      Their mobile site is far superior to their app still. Especially when you switch it to the classic style. If only res worked on a mobile browser it would be perfect.

      • @[email protected]
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        132 years ago

        I absolutely hate their mobile site. It’s nothing compared to the mobile oriented experience I got from Sync.

    • @[email protected]
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      1972 years ago

      Which would be fine at all, you know. It’s their platform and their servers, and they can do what they want.

      Except for the fact that the official app is several orders of magnitude more primitive, inefficient and uncomfortable to use. Even more so for Android than for iOS

      • @[email protected]
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        162 years ago

        I would literally be fine with scrolling past some ads if the shit worked. Their app (and the god awful redesigned site, always used the old.reddit when on a PC) was just so freaking bad. Like I’ll tolerate some corporate bullshit and ads if IT WORKS WELL. You can’t make me consume ads to use a broken half functional product.

        • @[email protected]
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          62 years ago

          Did you know that, new Reddit was designed so user spend more time on Reddit?

          Less content on page mean reduce mental fatigue, mean more time spend scrolling.

          Less content mean each content will have more of you attention. Meaning that an ads insert in the scroll will get more click.

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            It’s all so dystopian, I wonder how many people there are in the world whose entire job is to use psychology to benefit the company at the cost of the user

      • @[email protected]
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        1662 years ago

        Also for the fact that they lie through their teeth and can’t even give the decency of honest business.

        Why the fuck would we trust these idiots with our data/hard work?

        • Brudder Aaron
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          512 years ago

          Which is why people should scrub their comments. A lot of people are holding on to “The good times.” with their posts and comments. It doesn’t matter if reddit can technically undo the work, I’m still going to check and make sure it stays gone. Without that content, reddit is nothing.

          • Aielman15
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            52 years ago

            Which tool did you use to delete your comments? I used Power Delete Suite but was only able to delete 1700 out of the 4000 total comments I wrote with my account.

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                I appreciate the answer.

                Unfortunately it it’s down because of the Reddit API changes. I hope it’s coming back.

                • circuscritic
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                  12 years ago

                  Use a script manager like Greasemonkey or Violent Monkey, and then load a purpose built script like the one I linked to in my previous comment.

                  It doesn’t rely on the API, it’s all done local in your browser.

          • @[email protected]
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            How long before they claim that’s against some of the ToS and restore the comments I wonder?

          • @[email protected]
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            To be honest, I respect that position, but I don’t hold enough contempt against them to do that, and on the other hand I do value Reddit as an archive of online knowledge and debate. I can just leave it if I don’t want it in my life anymore. I would like any comments I made on specific topics I’m knowledgeable about to be accessible and used as reference in the future.

            • EricKendrick
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              02 years ago

              I’m sure there are places like the internet archive who have copies, your stuff isn’t gone if you delete it.

              Reddit is like the ex who cheated on you, that person isn’t the person you knew. Now you can leave behind your stuff at their place, but why would you? You are rewarding them by gifting your stuff, making them more respectable and credible, than you know they really are.

              People say move on. Move on, and take your stuff with you.

              • @[email protected]
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                32 years ago

                But that’s not the point. I’m not saying I’m super important, but I believe I have helped several people with technical or academic questions on Reddit before, and anyone looking that up could access my comments and they might help other people in the future.

                I don’t hate Reddit as a corporation enough to erase what might be useful to someone else in the future, and they can profit off of it if they want, since I didn’t make those comments with my profit in mind anyway.

                I understand wanting to erase your data from Reddit, and I realize it’s also a responsible decision, but I personally don’t like the idea of wiping clean one of the greatest hubs of information in the entire internet, even if I disagree with their corporate practices.

              • lorez
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                22 years ago

                I requested my data. Moore than a week ago. Nothing happened.

      • @[email protected]
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        202 years ago

        I used the Android app for a long while before I found out there were 3rd party apps. By the time I tried them I was so used to the horrible Reddit app I Just stuck with it. My biggest gripe with it was that they would make huge sweeping changes that changed how the app worked with no warning, no way to go back, and you Just had to change the way you browsed.

        Then when I switched to an iPhone every time I tabbed out of the app (to read a link or whatever) then went back into Reddit the app would scroll me all the way to the top of whatever feed I was reading at the time.

      • deweydecibel
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        442 years ago

        Who gives that platform value? Who fills it with content for them to profit off of? Who moderates it for them, for free?

        Users.

        And they should be able to interact with the site they built up however the hell they please.

      • @[email protected]
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        422 years ago

        Except that they were very friendly to third-party app developers for 15 years and are now claiming they didn’t know third-party apps existed.

          • @[email protected]
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            162 years ago

            It’s telling that they got angry about the recording being released more than anything.

            Before this went down, Christian and other app developers had nothing but great things to say about Reddit, especially regarding their communication regarding upcoming changes that could break their third-party apps, so I’m not buying the “We didn’t know they were using the API to download all of Reddit!” argument at all. There are a few YouTubers making that argument as well, that Reddit didn’t know app developers were making third party apps and the API wasn’t intended for it.

      • @[email protected]
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        162 years ago

        The fact that you still can’t change text size on Android, when people were asking for that feature seven years ago, is a travesty.

        • @[email protected]
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          62 years ago

          Oh yeah, the benefit on Android was always the sheer number of third-party Reddit apps in spite of the official one being worse than the iOS version. I missed Relay and Boost once I switched to iPhone.

          Now I wonder how they expect Android users to be able to use Reddit on mobile anymore.

  • Ken27238
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    522 years ago

    Man Reddit is really all in on the “any PR is good PR”.

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    262 years ago

    Joey was my go to reddit app, and I’m really sad to read about the developer stressing out. They seemed pretty cool, so it sucks that reddit is doing this to them.

  • @[email protected]
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    412 years ago

    Gutted about this… thought was just a technical issue yesterday then got the message today directing me to Lemmy so here I am. Reddit is an asshat.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      I did too… Yet no response. He even did a survey and I suggested again he should port Joey to Lemmy and I’ll buy again. But it seems he wanted to stay in the Reddit bullshit. Let’s hope he will come to Lemmy.

    • VenoraTheBarbarian
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      42 years ago

      Huh, Boost broke for me a week-ish ago. I’m waiting with baited breath for Boost for Lemmy to be up an running.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        I’m currently my app of choice (Sync) but patching it with Revanced and using my own API key. It’s super easy and free. Works. Beautifuly for the moment.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Relay still works too. The dev is also in talks with reddit about paid API access, but hasn’t had it shut off.

    • Spellbind8558
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      32 years ago

      Same here. At first, I thought Reddit might be phasing the API changes but doesn’t seem to be the case. After seeing someone’s comments about moderator accounts allowed to have continued access, that seems to be the case testing against a few of my accounts. Only the accounts that were moderators have continued access via Boost.

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    I tried all the reddit apps I got aware of and Joey was just miles ahead of the pack.

    There have been so many customization settings, custom themes, well-impoemented navigation features like skipping posts/comments with the volume keys of the phone etc.

    I’m currently using 8 apps for Lemmy and none of them seems even close (yes, I know these are mostly alpha releases).

    I really hope the joey dev creates a Lemmy client.

    • ██████████
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      It’s wild that to me that the app dev made money from essentially being a web scrapper. No one should be makingoney off us posting memes lol 😂

        • @[email protected]
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          132 years ago

          Obviously he put “Scrape comments = true” and then took all of our money with his advanced programming skills /s

      • delirium
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        192 years ago

        He made money from people liking provided fun and easy access to reddit, additional functionality and customization options.

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    152 years ago

    Former joey user I left reddit as soon as the API changes where public, I wanted to dev to pivot joey for Lemmy among other that said the same on the subreddit but never got any response. rip.