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Watched Louis Rossman today, and he’s part of the team behind a new app for watching online video content - not just youtube, but nebula, peertube, twitch and more.
adblock already integrated, works amazingly with a quick test on my end - it’s an app in the Lemmy spirit
(it’s got a paid model similar to winrar, you don’t have to pay - but they do want you to - opensource and all)
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I wouldn’t classify it as a better revanced, but that doesn’t matter, thanks for sharing this awesome tool I really liked it, I first started incorporating Matrix in my life, then a couple days ago Lemmy, and now this, it’s great
What is this Matrix you are talking about?
Search for Elements aswell with Matrix
Interesting, thank you for sharing.
You are welcome 🤗
“Not compatible with my device” sadly. Probably Android version since my phone is old as all fuck.
If you’re trying through the app store I would suggest the website, it has a few different options including non ARM device architecture!
Note to pirates: the app still asks you to pay.
Not hard to work around (just have to bypass these files) but the license does state that they can take down any forks for any reason or no reason at all, so I don’t expect an easy to use free fork to stay up unless they make enough money to sustain development.
Wdym by bypass and those files ? I am sorry, but do you mean u need to edit something, delete or overwrite ?
Edit the files, make sure they
return truewhenever there’s a payment check in the code, and recompile the app. Shouldn’t be too hard.To get around the Rossman license issue you can probably publish just a patch file with none of the original source code so people can build their own patched versions of the app.
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True, patching the app through revanced every update is kind of a pain though. Prepatched APKs seem to be a lot more popular for piracy.
You don’t need to bypass anything. You can just not pay and the app will continue functioning just fine.
It’s the WinRAR model.
The patching is meant to convey that message of never paying, by removing the option and prompts + nags to pay, as well as create the experience of an app that is entirely free without such nags. Such patches exist for WinRAR as well to enhance user experience.
They can get forks taken down from legit places like GitHub, but this is the piracy community, isn’t it?
Anyway, have you actually used the app? It’s fucking amazing, it works flawlessly in my experience. I played with it for an hour and immediately gave them ten bucks, it’s better than NewPipe, ReVanced, everything I’ve tried.
Smart pirates keep everything but the stolen stuff above board. Sonarr isn’t illegal, using Sonarr to download movies usually is. Same with yt-dlp. In this case, the piracy part that’s supposed to be above board is the code itself.
I did test the app, it felt close to the youtube app but it wasn’t as good in my opinion. It’s probably an excellent client for the built-in services it lists that I’ve never heard of, but I only have access to Youtube and Patreon and Patreon doesn’t work.
I do see a nice future for it in the piracy community nonetheless. It should be easy to add a Plex/Jellyfin plugin, maybe a Kemono plugin for Patreon, and probably a bunch of plugins for your average ad-infested streaming site.
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Libretube is sweet. Just starting to utilize the download option: awesome.
I use yt-dlp for my desktop, libre does that for Android. =Happy
Interested in the multi-platform of this new app. Will have to take it for a spin.
can’t import subscriptions from YouTube or any other platform
If you open your subscriptions JSON, it will just open in the app and start loading your subs.
You can import YouTube subscriptions by clicking on the Sources tab and then tapping on the YouTube source (says tap to open in small print). You can then sign in and after that you’ll have import subscriptions as well as import playlists buttons.
awesome, thanks
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However, I’m worried about what Rossmann says in regards to profit and maintenance. The app is moderated/worked-on by (I think paid) professionals and we should pay a license of $9.99 yet the app is also unprofitable and may never turn a profit. So, what’s the point in paying for the app?
By paying for the app, you’re merely donating to FUTO. As Rossmann mentioned in his video, it is completely optional to pay.
There’s nothing wrong with any app being unprofitable IMO. Public transport and car infrastructure is unprofitable and we don’t have a problem with those… heck even my personal website is unprofitable, that’s about $200-300 a year being funnelled into something nobody uses or visits.
Rossmann has a millionaire backing up his repair business
This is incorrect
Rossmann’s personal repair business is financially independent from his employer, FUTO, who only partially sponsors Rossmann’s R2R advocacy with the assistance of community donations. Rossmann frequently publishes hour long videos on his main channel crawling through the finances, and has spreadsheets online for public viewing where viewers can do an audit themselves
So, is some of this being funded by that person and other investors of FUTO or is our money the only thing keeping this afloat
AFAICT, FUTO is comparable to organisations like NLNET - the same people at sponsor the Lemmy devs. The aim is generally not to fund projects forever, but to eventually open source them after they’ve been developed to the agreed level of functionality. Seeing as this app is mainly a Rossmann initiative there could be an exception here though - such as Rossmann donating his own money towards development.
The app is niche and I can’t see too many people paying for a license
I’m probably an exception then lol
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I also can’t see too many workers staying unless they are passionate. Something isn’t adding up unless I’m wrong.
A lot of people who follow Rossmann are passionate about R2R, actually owning what you pay for, and not giving excessive control to monopolies like Google.
Grayjay is more along the lines of this spirit, and as soon as they have their DHT video hosting thing ready I’ll gladly donate some of my storage space towards it 👌
So Rossmann is a lobbyist for an activist billionaire?
I think right to repair is important btw. Not questioning that.
Yep. And a right libertarian. I stopped watching him when he went from repair content to months long complaining about taxes and talking up Florida and Texas as some great place. Honestly, I am 100% convinced that the only reason he even cares about right to repair is for his work. He has shown no signs of caring about anyone else other than himself in any of the dozens of hours of content I watched of his.
I’m so glad I trained under Jessa at iPad Rehab instead of taking his course.
the only reason he even cares about right to repair is for his work
This is exactly it. I appreciate that he’s a strong advocate for it, and he’s a single issue voter/lobbyist, but he really wouldn’t care about it if it wasn’t his business. As can be seen in how, while he so strongly believes in a right for third parties to maintain hardware, he very clearly doesn’t believe in a right for third parties to maintain software with this app being source-available and not FLOSS.
He’s always felt off to me. And it’s not just because I’m into Apple products. I find it hard to articulate. But I see I’m not alone, thanks for sharing.
Yeah I was in the industry when he got big, and it was hard not to love his anger towards Apple, but eventually it became apparent he was just an angry person and Apple was only his current target. Once he had secured his platform, he felt more comfortable to share his absurd views, and I fear he influenced many impressionable people towards the right with his rhetoric. Dude is not who I want representing the repair community.
Rossmann has a millionaire backing up his repair business among other things.
Why does everybody seem to know all of this dirt about Louis except me? I’ve seen this “be suspicious of anything Rossman is involved in” comment a few times in the past few days. I’m out of the loop.
Rossmann has a millionaire backing up his repair business
Billionaire, actually.
So, is some of this being funded by that person and other investors of FUTO or is our money the only thing keeping this afloat?
The billionaire (Eron Wulf) is also the founder of FUTO. They don’t have investors.
There are plenty of projects that take donations/payments that don’t make profit but stay afloat, normally through the team behind it paying the bills. I guess it depends what the running costs actually are, and if it’s for people or e.g. servers.
Kodi is one of them
Is it better than NewPipe x SponsorBlock?
Better than Revanced? So it can access all my watch history, comments, votes, subscriptions, etc? If not, then it’s not better for me.
Nice. I definitely have to check it out. I pay for Nebula/Curiosity Stream but am not able to play the Nebula videos with the screen off like I can with ReVanced. Hopefully I can with Grayjay.
ReVanced taps into my history with microg. When I watch stuff on desktop with Firefox and uBlock Origin, I want those videos to show as watched on my phone when I open ReVanced so I don’t get recommended the same stuff. That works.
GrayJay can’t do this. It’s not better. It’s a good idea, but it’s a side grade.
That’s the exact opposite of what most people want from an app like this.
It’s what I want from an app like this 🤷♂️
I just want Smarttube Next for mobile.
STN has a huge privacy problem in that it has to be connected to a Google account.
I don’t believe STN has to be connected to a Google account
Correct. There’s no need to login.
As lemann pointed out there’s a setting for that in the YT add-on im the sources tab, not the app settings. Also myself and others have had loading issues with Revanced. It’ll start playing, suddenly start buffering and never stops. Grayjay works as it should and still has the settings I want from Revanced. Not to argue, just want to let others in my situation know Grayjay is the upgrade we need.
I had that issue and it was because I needed to update Revanced.
That’s what I saw in a reddit post way back but updating and reinstall never fixed it. I was using YT on browser for a while just because it was more reliable and didn’t have ads. UI sucked ass though. Ky biggest critique on Grayjay so far is the lack of vertical swipes to adjust volume/brightness.
I’m having the same problem with revanced right now. Buffering and pausing and often never recovering.
Make the jump to Grayjay, my friend. It’s worth it.
Thanks, I actually have it installed and I’ve been playing with it. It’s been playing smoothly.
The problem is that the authentication with my account is failing, so I can’t get my subscriptions and watch history. I’m still working on figuring it out
Grayjay can do this - there is a toggle in the settings for the YouTube addin to sync watch data with your Google account.
It’s a one-time sync though. If I want history from what I watched on my desktop today I have to resync.
I downloaded this app yesterday and I love it.
It is an interesting project, not sure where it goes. The title is deeply misleading though. The features of ReVanced make YouTube so much better, whereas this project doesn’t seem to be about making YouTube better so much as circumnavigating YouTube for the comment boxes and as your hub to creators. They seem to be doing different things.
What do they do differently?
OP, did you purposely leave the Nazi hangout sites that this is meant to serve out of your content examples? The places that are generally career death sentences for the “cancelled”?
I generally like Louis, but this project seems like it will mostly be a tool for the rightfully de-platformed to retain an audience for their disinformation and hate.
Not a win for me right out the gate.
Waitwhaaat?
I, uh - honestly wasn’t aware of it - I mentioned examples that I was somewhat aware/familiar with…
It honestly didn’t cross my mind with the nazi shit 💀💀
Don’t like rumble either but you can just keep it unchecked.
I hear you, I’m just not sure the % of actually legit cases of good people “lost” in YouTube’s broken system, where this app will be helpful, won’t be just completely dwarfed by the number of irredeemable dirtbags it helps keep their candles lit so they can live another day to shout about how you should drink bleach instead of utilizing legitimate modern medicine.
Frankly the vast majority of my favorite creators have not been able to handle youtube and most have moved onto Twitch, where I’m not so interested in watching. Banned from YouTube though, or demonetized? Now we’re talking about ~5 creators Ive watched instead of hundreds.
Oh SHIT this is the first time I’m being made aware of that.
Then just… don’t use those platforms? If you’re so afraid they’ll convert you.
Not afraid for myself friend, afraid for the more easily misled, the ones that likely live in your mirrors at home.
If you have people living in your mirrors at home, you have much bigger problems than I can help you with, sorry.
Woooosshhhh!
Noo, I have to ban other people from using them too! People can’t be allowed to do things I don’t like!
I was excited about this but it’s mobile only?
With how locked down mobile is compared to desktop I think it’s a good thing to start with mobile
Agreed, great start for the project
WDYM by locked down?
Godly
