Alexander Hanff (@[email protected])
eupolicy.social
Today I filed a formal complaint against #YouTube with the Irish Data Protection Commissioner for their illegal deployment of #adblock detection technologies. Under Article 5(3) of 2002/58/EC YouTube are legally obligated to obtain consent before storing or accessing information already stored on an end user's terminal equipment unless it is strictly necessary for the provisions of the requested service. In 2016 the EU Commission confirmed in writing that adblock detection requires consent.
      • noodle (he/him)English
        25•2 years ago

        which isn’t GDPR-compliant. you can’t force people to accept tracking if the service doesn’t require it to work.

        • @[email protected]English
          1•2 years ago

          Does it count as tracking though? What private or personal data is it? I’d also say that it’s at the very least grey area since all they’re doing is trying to prevent people from using their service in unintended ways, ie without ads.

        • Ludwig van BeethovenEnglish
          2•2 years ago

          common EU W

          could some of you big brain people try and talk to the idiots who shout “BRÜSSZEL” at every issue here (Hungary)?

          • Thorned_Rose
            7•2 years ago

            Meanwhile in my country (New Zealand), privacy laws are slowly being eroded and government spying and censorship is increasing.
            I wish we had GDPR.

      • jimmydoreisaleftyEnglish
        13•2 years ago

        Thanks!

        The picture was shared on other social media sites, I did not see it mentioned in Lemmy or similar.

  • CaveEnglish
    19•2 years ago

    I’m not in a position to look into it right now, but is there a part of the EULA that gives consent to detect ad blockers, and would that be good enough for the law referenced?

    • Pons_Aelius
      58•2 years ago

      Probably not.

      A contract term that is illegal under local laws cannot be enforced.

      If the process they are using to detect adblockers breaches EU laws, they cannot use the EULA to allow them to break the law.

  • FedoraEnglish
    29•2 years ago

    Yes, the European Commission said that adblock detection is illegal back in 2016. But they believe it’s a legitimate interest, and said that they want to legalize adblock detection in a press statement back in 2017.

    Can users still use ad blockers?

    The proposal does not regulate the use of ad blockers. Users have the freedom to install software on their devices that disables the display of advertisement. At the same time, the Commission is aware that ‘free’ content on the internet is often funded by advertisement revenue. Important bit: Therefore, the proposal allows website providers to check if the end-user’s device is able to receive their content, including advertisement, without obtaining the end-user’s consent. If a website provider notes that not all content can be received by the end-user, it is up to the website provider to respond appropriately, for example by asking end-users if they use an ad-blocker and would be willing to switch it off for the respective website.

    Edit: I highlighted where they state that they want to legalize adblock detection.

  • krellor
    40•2 years ago

    I would recommend people read the IAB ad blocker detection guide for Europe which provides a good summary of what is possible. It lays out the that depending on how the detection is done it might be defensible to rely on ToS, and to remove all risk, implement a consent banner, wall, or both.

    Which is to say, even if it was ruled that YouTube can’t rely on ToS, which I don’t think is a sure thing, they would just have a consent wall like for cookies.