Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.
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I’m not sure anyone knows what a tankie is.
Apparently saying any country other than the US should take a turn at world leadership is a tankie opinion.
Want to see the transphobia and homophobia that Lemmy tankies from Hexbear are getting up to? Check out [email protected] (https://lemm.ee/c/DroneRights) to see their months long harassment of a single trans person for being nonbinary.
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“The progress from an absolute to a limited monarchy, from a limited monarchy to a democracy, is a progress toward a true respect for the individual… Is a democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man? There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly”
Can’t we all just get along?
With genocidal twats? No.
so what are your instance on the genocide Israel is doing?
Fuck Israel, man. A bunch of apartheid shitheads.
WHO EXCLUDED ISRAEL AT ANY POINT IN THIS THREAD?!
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I refuse to get along with people who support genocide.
which genocide?
Usually tankies deny the atrocities of any country that claims to be any flavor of communist or socialist. Usually tankies will support any country that claims to be communist or socialist if said country hates the “west”.
Before Blahaj defederated from Hexbear I literally argued with a tankie who supported Gaddafi and was saying that NATO shouldn’t have gotten involved when he was shelling civilians during their civil war.
No.
These threads are odd to me, considering how many people call all communists tankies. The word seems to be used by anarchists, conservatives, communists, anti-communists, and more, and every person has a slightly different definition.
Half the people here could consider the other half to be the tankies everyone is mad at.
To be clear this isn’t me saying “be nice to the tankies” this is me saying “the overuse of this word is confusing the shit out of me.”
Hell yeah!
Hey everyone, just a reminder:
- Yes Nazis are also bad, we don’t have Nazis pop up anywhere near as often as Tankies
- We remove and ban Nazis too
- We’re aware of Lemmy’s main code writers being ML’s, and it’s not great.
- Please report any bigot bullshit, or fascist/tankie dogwhistles.
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Loving to see tankies come out of the woodwork to seethe and troll at this
The guy needs a speech bubble that says “Stalin did nothing wr-”
I mean when people give Stalin shit yet don’t bat an eye at what Lenin did, I can safely assume they’re going off cold war propaganda.
Nooo, you don’t understand. It was the material conditions that were forcing Lenin to order Trotsky to murder his way through the free territory of Ukraine.
forcing Lenin to order Trotsky
Sources?
What exactly do you want a source for?
The claim that the soviets caused the conflict because of “material conditions” was a joke that was meant to make fun of tankies.
But you quoted “forcing Lenin to order Trotsky”, which is why I don’t exactly know if that’s what you’re talking about.
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The claim that the soviets caused the conflict because of “material conditions” was a joke that was meant to make fun of tankies.
ive never heard this claim, it was a civil war, anarchists weren’t exactly all nice
The anarchists worked together with the soviets, going as far as actually being a part of the red army and fighting together against the whites. Tensions between the two groups only rose because bolchevik commanders repeatedly attacked their autonomy.
That unity lasted until the reds had beaten the whites in moscow, after which they just invaded the Makhnovshchina.
The anarchists weren’t all that nice and had oftentimes critiqued the bolshevists way of implementing communism, but they still worked together and tried to work with the Bolsheviks on equal footing. The Bolsheviks on the other hand repeatedly tried to undermine their autonomy and just betrayed them as soon as they thought that they didn’t need them anymore and thus caused a civil war that killed 1.5 million people.
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Lenin had some legitimately good takes, e.g. that Stalin should, under no circumstance, ever be allowed to come to power. His analysis was also usually spot-on, but his solutions to things either hare-brained or naive, leading to, well, history. Or, put differently, on a scale from tragic hero to villain he’s at least in the middle while Stalin is a straight-up villain.
Lenin ordered the Red Terror. The main difference between him and Stalin when it comes to willingness to use state violence was the size of the state. His solution to political decent was mass executions. While it was announced as a class war on the bourgeoisie, it began with a massacreof sociallists. In addition to kulaks and white army afficers, it targeted the former bolshenik allies Left Socialists, anarchists, and striking workers. The Red Terror featured the creation of the gulags and concentration camps, hostage taking, and torture.
I mean, is “hang more kulaks or you’ll be hanged for treason” really that bad of a plan?
“We should all look up to Chi-”
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