Somehow paying for Netflix is fine but god forbid I want to watch a 10 hour loop of the DS9 intro without ads.

  • AnarchoCummunist [he/him]
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    Use Newpipe like a true comrade.

    YouTube without ads on Android, and you can run it in the background with/without the screen off.

    • Joe Cool
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      Brand new: https://grayjay.app/

      Has downloads, dislikes, Youtube, Odysee, Rumble, Twitch, Kick, and more plugins, no ads, can cast to devices, offline subscriptions and was paid for by Louis Rossman. Out for a week now. Loving it so far. Just needs Sponsorblock and it will replace Newpipe+Sponsorblock for me. It’s open source but paid software.

      We offer a way to pay for the app once. The app will function identically without paying.

      • @[email protected]
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        Eh, HP has always worked fine for us. I have two sitting here, actually - one is an all-in-one from ~2009 that we printed our wedding programs on when it was new, and it still works fine, but ink is getting harder to find for it, and we had a scare with the irreplaceable print head a few years ago (I got it working, using HP’s “try this if you’re out of options, but it’s unlikely to work” directions, but we realized it was probably time to consider replacing it).

        The other is a few years old and is one of the ones with the subscription service. We’ve had a good experience with it, and I spend less on ink than I did with the old one, but that upsets a LOT of people.

        • Skull giver
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          and I spend less on ink than I did with the old one, but that upsets a LOT of people.

          I think it’s because you’re part of the minority who’s better off with the subscription. Almost everyone I know needs to print something once or twice a year, and only a few pages at that. That’s also the target market for HP to shove subscriptions down everyone’s throats.

          The sad thing is that whether or not the subscription makes sense is simple math. The problem is that HP knows the math doesn’t work out for most people, which is why they ask you three to six times if you want the subscription during initial setup, and why the printers have a sticker over the USB port that will then only work a limited amount of times before you need to go through the wizard.

          When you’re printing stuff regularly, the subscription makes a lot of sense. On the other hand, if you’re printing enough for the subscription to be a better option, you may be better off buying a laser printer instead. The upfront cost is higher, but they’re more reliable and often cheaper to refill in the long term.

          • @[email protected]
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            First, it’s nice to get a reasonable response to my comment. Most of the responses about HP printers are people foaming at the mouth. Even a few here, in a thread meant to be funny, generated some of that.

            Yeah, I might go with a laser next time. I’ve read that Brother makes a pretty good laser printer, and I see color models are like $250, which isn’t bad. We’ll see. No major rush right now. I would miss the flatbed scanner; I do use that (maybe as much as the printer) for random things.

            Oh…haha…I just went to Brother’s site to look at one, and oh look, there’s a toner subscription service!

          • Aa!
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            For what it’s worth, all of HP’s business hardware is very good, whether it’s printers or PC systems. It’s just the cheap consumer-oriented products that suck.

            Same thing with Dell

            • Skull giver
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              That’s my experience as well. Everyone absolutely hates HP laptops, for good reason, but I don’t think I’ve heard many people complain about the ProBook line unless their employees bought them the barebones i3 version.

              Same is true with a lot more companies as well. Lenovo makes some terrible plastic waste with allegedly a computer inside, but some great Thinkpads that will last a decade of punishment.

              I think there’s a pretty direct correlation between companies that everyone thinks are bad and companies that make cheap models. It’s probably why the general public likes Apple so much; of course you’ll have a great laptop when you spend 1500 dollars on it, they simply don’t make devices cheap enough that you would hate.

              Meanwhile Acer is out there with their barely functional laptops containing chips not powerful enough to play Youtube videos yet power hungry enough to overheat, for prices lower than a week’s groceries. I’m sure their top of the line models are pretty good too, if they even make those, but everyone knows them for their cheap hardware.

    • Blackout
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      No way, Only Brushes and paint for me. Of course I steal it cause why should I pay for it?

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      Trigger warning:

      I have an HP inkjet printer attached to my Windows 11 machine playing YouTube Premium in Chrome without an ad blocker.

      Edit: it’s a joke, people.

    • @[email protected]
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      Using an HP printer is like playing Russian Roulette with a ton of loaded bullets. I say this as someone with multiple HP printers.

  • @[email protected]
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    I’ll pay to not be exposed to ads. I’ll also pay to support a service I get value from. So I’m paying for YouTube premium, Netflix, Hulu. etc. When a service with media I want that has a more desirable corporate structure becomes available I’ll pay for that and maybe get rid of other services. I also occasionally sail the high seas if the thing I want isn’t available on any of the services I’m already paying for.

    • LibsEatPoop [any]
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      I use iPhone. And I like downloading videos way way way too much. UBlock origin is goated tho.

      And I don’t want ads when I cast to my tv.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          PiHole can block YouTube ads? Specifically on iOS?? Didn’t think DNS blocking could accomplish this and an app like Magic Lasso was required?

          I use NextDNS and it cannot block iOS YouTube ads.

          • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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            Honestly not entirely sure about iOS. I use a PiHole and several other adblocking solutions, but don’t personally use any apple devices. Family members with iOS devices have repeatedly commented that they are confused and delighted that they never see ads at my house, though.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          What are the risks of installing a third party App Store like this. I notice it was called TrollStore.

          • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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            Relatively low risk, these are open-source projects with fairly significant userbases of technical users who can and do call out troubling code if it’s present.

            While you are doing so at your own risk, sideloading isn’t inherently risky. It’s far safer than jailbreaking, for sure. The risk is not really with the store, but with the apps you download from it. I recommend only downloading more popular and trusted apps with public code and some community oversight.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    I like reminding people that Netflix were totally fine with Chappelle’s transphobic shit being on their service, you shouldn’t give them your money.

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      YouTube Music is the reason I sail the high seas if you equate blocking ads to pirating. I neither want nor need it, but I now have to subscribe to it to get Premium.

      I was paying for YT Premium before that predatory bundling to justify an insane price hike. It’s not worth 12€/month, sorry Google.

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    So I was against premium for a while, was using vanced and it was fine. Nowadays with my boy getting a bit older and how much we use YouTube it’s just easier to have premium. I know people have mentioned the android TV app but I have a Vizio TV and can’t get it on there. Also, I’m not going to try to root my tv or anything like that (not even sure if I can with this one)

    • @[email protected]
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      82 years ago

      Or don’t and pay for things you use and enjoy with gratitude and no sense of entitlement.

      • @[email protected]
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        I pay for it, but it’s insanely cheap in my country. Family plan is like $1.5 a month lol. 5 or 6 users for that convenience is worth it in my eyes. I’d rather do that than make my parents, grandparents have to worry about ad blockers on all their devices.

        • @[email protected]
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          Family plan in my country is like $4USD. And it provides more than adblock. I can easily download a few hour-long videos to my kid’s tablet for long train rides without futzing with third-party Downloader. I have a pihole in my house and use adblock on every device that supports it, but premium is still worth so much.

          • @[email protected]
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            Yeah it’s good assuming it’s cheap. In the US, it’s quite a bit more and I don’t think I’d pay that much. These big companies know that charging that kind of money in India will get them nowhere and so even Spotify and Apple Music are super cheap.

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    Here’s the thing: how much YouTube content creators are really affected by ad blockers varies widely, and that’s due to several factors such as what region their main viewership is in, their subject matter, and how many viewers of each creator fit the demographic that might use ad blockers. YouTube is the only entity that would have the real data on the real impact to content creators due to ad blockers, and it’s believed that the reason they don’t share that data is so that they can inflate the numbers in order to claim greater losses than they actually suffer— and while that may very well be a strong motivation, I believe the primary motivation to be to hide the wide variation in levels of compensation between their top content creators. If the ad-blocking impact data became public, it would also reveal the wide disparities in how much YouTube compensates different tiers of content creators and would make public deals with top creators that have, until now, remained private.

    This so why it’s always discussed in vague terms and as some existential threat— which is is, for them.

  • The Barto
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    I believe it’s someone else’s hard earned money, if they want to throw money to have what is objectively a better viewing experience, then it’s not my problem.

  • AphoticDev
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    And here I am, getting the same thing and paying nothing because I’ve got uBlock Origin.

    • Paul_Stuhl
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      12 years ago

      I also have No ads, because I use NewPipe. There I can watch all Videos from YouTube, cccBerlin, pearTube and it is also possible to Listen to Music from Bandcamp and Soundcloud.

      • @[email protected]
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        Unless you’re on an iPhone, setting up Revanced takes less than 10 minutes and very rarely breaks anything. If you want to support your YouTube creators, then sure pay for premium, but it baffles me how someone could have the technical prowess to set up a Lemmy account, but then balk at something like this. If anything, mobile might be one of the last frontiers now that they’re starting a war against adblock.

      • Skull giver
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        It’s a one click install on Firefox. Sponsorblock is more of a faff but I think it should work these days.

        Revanced is a bit harder to set up though, but once you’ve done it you can use the same old APK for months or longer (not indefinitely because Google decided to put an expiry date on versions of Youtube, probably to keep their API support lifetime somewhat sane).

        • @[email protected]
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          I use adblock on Firefox on my phone. Used to be fun to jailbreak and install my own apps and stuff, just getting lazier as I age I think

    • @[email protected]
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      Since youtube has been starting to wage war against adblock I decided to try out using freetube and have been enjoying it. It does have some limitations but since its not tied to the algorithm it reminds me of how I used to have to browse youtube in the older days. Also I feel like the up-next option is way more valuable than it is with the algorithm. Instead of being based off of what I watch its like the old method so it might recommend more vids from the creator or channels like the creator.

      Instead of stuff that Ive already watched or am already subscribed to, or that one weird thing the algorithm is pushing for no reason that I keep ignoring but it keeps shoving at me.

      Discovery requires a little more creativity with searching and for some categories this can get broad, but the result is finding more teeny tiny creators as well which is neat.

      • AphoticDev
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        I was getting blocked for having uBlock Origin, but how I solved that was to purge the filter lists in the settings and re-download them. Now I can watch again.

        • @[email protected]
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          Oh yeah that does work as well, but I decided to give the open source front end a try as well and enjoyed the experience enough to keep at it.

    • Maven (famous)
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      This works fine but the main reason I personally have premium is to support the YouTubers I watch. Adblock gets rid of their revenue while premium pays them MORE than just ads do and now I don’t have to worry about it on any platform.

      • AphoticDev
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        Premium still gives them hardly anything. Subscribing to their Patreon is better because they get all your money, minus the small fee.

        • @[email protected]
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          It gives them a loot more than ad watchers though. Especially on longer videos (it’s based on watch time)

        • Maven (famous)
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          True but I can afford premium. I can’t afford every single persons patreon.

  • @[email protected]
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    I know this is a silly meme but my issue with not wanting to pay for youtube is 3 fold.

    1.Theyre a monopoly. Google bought out the plucky streaming service on the rise(and honestly if it wasnt google it would have been someone else) and then continued to build up momentum and squash the competition. There is no competition. Daily motion and vimeo and peertube exist, but they dont really compete with youtube anymore.

    Google can complain all they want about how it’s expensive to host 4k videos from anyone who wants to upload and how all the global traffic makes their service unprofitable but given theyre a giant corporation, if it didnt bring them value they wouldnt be doing it and if it is a hole theyre putting money into then it’s an hole they dug for themselves.

    2.Google sucks at dealing with their creators. The lifeblood of the site is that it is the default platform for video content creators because its so big. Unjustified DCMA takedowns which ruin a persons livelihood and are difficult to appeal, their demonetization and essentially delisting from the algorithm of nsfw videos(which can happen if a key word is detected or a specific type of image, that recent issue with the big youtuber doxing another and getting a slap on the wrist, and the changes made to algorithms that hurt creators and shape content.

    Like how the comedy sketches and animators that were prevalent in the early days got squeezed out because the algorithm favored longer videos and a steadier stream of content. Or a case where a youtuber got his own song DCMA’d because another artist remixed his music. And thats not even getting into the poor compensation from ads that means creators need to use sites like patreon to get by. “Oh but if you pay premium your views count more” wow how nice of one of the biggest most valuable companies on earth.

    They also have no easy way for even decent sized creators with millions of subs to appeal or get a hold of them, let alone one in the 100s of thousdands or tens of thousands mark. All ai reviewed and ai resolved.

    1. The algorithm debacle. Its fickle tweaks have indirect impacts on creators and at worst it has been known to feed into conspiracy theories and red pill people into extremist pipelines and it took google way too long to address it. Even when it works well it can still push a lot of the same content. But its arbitrary nature an be a windfall on some seasons for one type of creator and tank another.

    2. Honestly even if all else failed and adblock stopped working I would probably just watch the ads. It’s like a 15 second clip in the beginning if you skip and a minute worth of ad 10 or 15 minutes later. Im not gunna say I love it but do you people not remember what watching tv was like or reading magazines, or have you ever had a bus drive by you? I can live with the minor amount of mostly skipable ads I’d get an hour especially if it means Im not paying.

    • @[email protected]
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      2.Google sucks at dealing with their creators. The lifeblood of the site is that it is the default platform for video content creators because its so big. Unjustified DCMA takedowns which ruin a persons livelihood and are difficult to appeal, their demonetization and essentially delisting from the algorithm of nsfw videos(which can happen if a key word is detected or a specific type of image, that recent issue with the big youtuber doxing another and getting a slap on the wrist, and the changes made to algorithms that hurt creators and shape content.

      Well said. It’s so hypocritical of Google to say “support our creators” when they do such a trash job of it already. Google makes hundreds of billions of dollars per year! If they cared so much about the creators, they could share more of their obscene earnings with them. Why should it be people’s responsibility?!? And of course, all the things that you mentioned as well that constantly screw them over too.

      It’s just shameless hypocrisy. They have no moral high ground here whatsoever.