Microsoft develops ultra durable glass plates that can store several TBs of data for 10000 years::Project Silica’s coaster-size glass plates can store unaltered data for thousands of years, creating sustainable storage for the world

  • Phoenixz
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    452 years ago

    This is also the 10,000th time I’ve heard about this so there is that…

    • HMN
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      132 years ago

      I almost literally yawned reading the title. “Journalists” regurgitating things they don’t understand and hyping them everytime like it’s the breakthrough of the century. I feel it waters down actual breakthroughs and makes people immune or at least apathetic to these stories because it’s the same thing over and over.

      • @[email protected]
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        CDs aren’t expected to last more than 100 years in storage.

        This is more like stone tablets for the future.

    • @[email protected]
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      462 years ago

      True, but being very easy to make would hopefully keep costs down, allowing you to have multiple plates.

      Also, this may not be for home use but companies that need to store data for years.

        • @[email protected]
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          My great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandson is really gonna love this 36K remaster of Shrek. I know I would

          • @[email protected]
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            Your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great who?

    • Pyr
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      172 years ago

      Backup wikipedia once a year to a crystal and then civilizations thousands of years from now can comb through it as they wish.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        This… well roughly. People here say muh file formats etc. But you’re really going for the maximum lifetime, if its uncompressed text, it wouldn’t be too hard to reverse engineer if future people figure out that there’s data on there at all. The harder part may be extracting the data at all. We could also include instructions on how certain file formats can be read.

        It’s is is still a great long term archive storage, and more likely the data would be transfered to a better storage device within a few 100 years (if we’re talking about archiving the present for future archologists that is)

        • Pyr
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          22 years ago

          How amazing would it be if we came across some tomb that was just filled with thousands of scrolls detailing the whole history of Rome and Greece and all those other empires from the BC years?

    • @[email protected]
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      512 years ago

      So it’s great for archival storage. This is exactly the type of thing I’m interested in if it was cheap enough.

          • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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            122 years ago

            Wouldn’t that be funny to be tasked with getting the data off a 10 000 year old piece of glass only for it to be dragon/car vore?

            • @[email protected]
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              72 years ago

              Researcher in 10000 years: “Woah! You thought those ‘ancient greeks’ were weird? Look at this shit!”

        • @[email protected]
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          72 years ago

          My media collection. I really only need like 50 years tops. At which point I’ll be dead or to senile to enjoy it. Unless I can back up my own consciousness onto it. Then… That.

          • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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            22 years ago

            Interesting replies but I’m just wondering what file format to use.

            Don’t we have troubles opening stuff from 4-5 os versions ago?

            • Arsecroft
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              32 years ago

              Interesting replies but I’m just wondering what file format to use.

              ascii + markdown for text if you’re from the US

              Don’t we have troubles opening stuff from 4-5 os versions ago?

              Yeah, but that is because people want to make money and so make their file formats difficult to understand on purpose.

              Whatever creatures discover our mystical tablets will hopefully be far smarter than us, or they’ll use the sum of human knowledge to tile their bathrooms.

            • @[email protected]
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              32 years ago

              I don’t have anything I can’t open and I’ve got stuff from 20+ years ago. I don’t even have to go out of my way to have applications that are compatible with it. If I did run across something I would just build a VM with whatever software I needed to open it. Just have to keep in mind what software you’ll need and back that up as well.

    • @[email protected]
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      352 years ago

      “Bob, why the hell did you format this as ‘Jim sux dicks’?! You know that’s permanent, right?”

      10K years later

      Alien captain: Anything to report?

      Alien: We need to find a being named “Jim”, sir…

      • Richard
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        32 years ago

        Why so negative? It could just as well be humans that find such a thing 10K years later

    • @[email protected]
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      If the glass is nothing special, each piece would cost cents and be like burning CD’s back in the day, except infinitely recyclable.

      What’s more important is the time and cost to read and write.

  • Madis
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    142 years ago

    Is it durable just because it’s thick, or can we use this tech in mobile screens too?

    • crawley
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      322 years ago

      I don’t think it’s that type of “durable.” I think they mean you can read from it forever without having to rewrite the data, which currently isn’t true of platter and solid state storage. This isn’t screen technology, though, it’s storage technology, so I’m not sure the comparison is useful.

      • @[email protected]
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        82 years ago

        I think they were talking about making the screen also a storage device but yeah doesn’t seem possible with this tech at least.

        • crawley
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          22 years ago

          Good point, maybe. But yeah, this isn’t rewritable media, this is archival data storage.

  • @[email protected]
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    82 years ago

    What are you going to read it with? Unless it’s photographically reduced text, like microfiche, it’s unlikely that the computer hardware and software will still exist.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      I want to know how many times they had to test it before they found one that lasted so long

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      Nobody uses a 6502 with commodore basic anymore either, I can still pop on an emulator in about 10 seconds to run a game from that era.

      Have some information there to build a reader, we can read hieroglyphics and cuneiform and that’s older, more primitive and only written in a few places by a few people.

      This is pretty doable.

  • @[email protected]
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    82 years ago

    I really don’t care until I can buy one. In the meantime I have a few hdd’s and an old LTO4 drive…

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      Article says the glass plates can only be written once, so don’t toss out your hdd just yet

      • @[email protected]
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        They could replace WORM storage, and since the person you responded to mentioned LTO, WORM may be possible with their data set since LTO is traditionally used for backups

  • @[email protected]
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    92 years ago

    Would you eventually be able to get data printed and have the plates sent to you, so you can store them yourself in a safe place?

    This would be a great option for preserving the source media for films and videos, for example. Not just the finished product, but every take etc.

    • @[email protected]
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      82 years ago

      Data is data, you could store anything there. The question is if this would eventually reach some sort of consumer market. By the looks of it it’s in a very early stage (where all equipment to read and write is still in RnD phase) so it’s not where you can have a sata cable attached to it in your pc.

  • @[email protected]
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    Me taking out a piece of hermetically sealed perfectly persevered data storage glass 10000 years in the future:

    Scratches it immediately

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    Also me, storing several TB’s of porn on ultra durable glass plates:

    The future will thank me

  • @[email protected]
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    142 years ago

    It’s fairly easy to store data for a very long time. What’s hard is remembering how to read that data after all that time.

    • @[email protected]
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      You could use like 10% of the storage to have a pictogram that explains how to read the data.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        Well that’s the problem, you have absolutely no way to know if it will make sense 10000 years down the line. Humans only invented writing around 6000 or 7000 years ago. It’s a really long time on our scale.

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          What does that have to do with writing? Pictograms are images. You take a microscope look at it and it tells you in image form how to decode it. Something like the arecibo message or the golden record, but way more detailed, because you have way more space.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            It has a lot to do with it, because writing is nothing more than standardised pictograms which have meanings and these change a lot over time.
            I’m not saying it can’t be done but to believe that what has been drawn or represented will be understood correctly 10000 years down the line, by humans or anything else is a big bet.

  • @[email protected]
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    252 years ago

    Was it minority report or the matrix that showed humans storing data on glass?

    Either way, this is pretty cool.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      It was Minority Report, during the sequence when Anderson is going through the footage of the murder in the beginning of the movie. One of the guys puts some video from a nearby computer into a small tablet -size piece of glass and hands it to Anderson who plugs it in and puts the video on the main screen.

      We’ve got some pretty good glove mouse things so we’re just kidding the pre-cogs.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      in The Expanse their ships are somehow powered/controlled by a shelf of things that look like this

    • ShustOne
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      92 years ago

      Minority Report had some glass storage stuff that was fun to see. He would insert a glass slide into the machine.

      • ShustOne
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        52 years ago

        Definitely I’m Minority Report as well in several scenes

  • @[email protected]
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    22 years ago

    Sounds an awful like the Millennium Disc.

    Though I guess it has higher capacity and even longer life, but the article doesn’t have much details.