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It’s free real-estate.
Because for fantasy we think of middle ages, and middle ages america is full of natives, not a single English speaker in sight
Fantasy is based upon the middle ages.
During the middle ages the US did not exist.
Iroquois Confederacy would like a word…
The middle ages ended in 1453 with the fall of Constantinople, which coincided with the birth of the Renaissance in Italy having already taken place.
The Iroquois Confederacy was founded (most likely) in the 1500s, with the earliest record of the first capital being in 1609.
The United States itself was founded in the 1700s.
Their comment was correct, the Iroquois Confederacy was founded during the age of the Renaissance and our modern conception of America came much later
Yeah I was just being silly
How dare you
Most have Eurocentric accents because those are the areas the various legends and stories originated.
Various depictions of leprechauns make them pretty much Irish rednecks. I love Mad Sweeney’s depiction in American Gods.
All the characters in my DnD campaigns that I DM have European/American accents because I’m white and I worry doing other accents will seem racist.
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Pretty sure because the “original” fantasy was written as a false history for England (LoTR was this). So it makes sense that the people would bear an English accent
I hope one day we can have a (respectful) mainstream fantasy world for Native America, It could be so cool.
Not exactly what you’re looking for, but most characters in A Wizard of Earthsea resemble Native Americans.
@WoodenBleachers But his sources were Norse, primarily, so by extension the argument can be made that the characters should all have Scandinavian accents.
That’s cool. I wouldn’t mind fantasy characters having accents (it’s fantasy after all) just providing context for why it’s predominantly English
Do the books have accents?
I’ll admit I haven’t read them, but I imagine the original version was British English with all the extra U’s and such.
Could be Canadian.
No, only folks that never read what Tolkien said about LotR think it is a fake History for England.
I read the Silmarillion, he was sad about the fact that England had no real “mythology” so he made his own
My last character was an orphan (or course), taken in by a dwarf clan, where he worked alongside them in the mines. So, naturally, he was Appalachian
You’re doing God’s work - an Appalachian
As a Undying Warlock/Death Cleric, he was definitely doing someone’s work lol
Ancient city-sized dragon that is eons older that any surviving historical text or man-made structures in the world, speaking to the dwarf that stands bravely before her: “Well ain’t chu just the most precious lil’ thang I ever did lay eyes on! Wut’s yer name, sugah?”
Yer here ta kill me? Oh, honey, bless yer heart!
My papy were what you would call an elder dragon, so unless you got the fire power to take down Mrs. Tiamat you don’t stand a chance against me, sugah.
So why don’t you just cool your heels, I’ll go make us some tea, and you can tell me about what’s going on in the world these days.
Also, why are all dwarfs Scottish?
You can’t pick a Scottish accent for your character in Baldurs Gate 3 and now my Dwarf just sounds British. It sounds, well… off
It just sounds right.
Because they save money on the makeup budget
I lol’d.
Dwarves have American accents in Dragon Age!
Because both are proud and mountanious nations?
British Scottish Welsh (Irish is complicated)?
I have English being conflated with British but never the other way round.
I have no idea how I feel about this
Irish isn’t complicated - we’re a separate island from Britain.
Wrong.
Northern Ireland is brittish. Hence the cimplicated
As an Irish person born in the six counties of Ireland the British claim as “Northern Ireland”, I can assure you that although our identity is complex, we have an international treaty (the Good Friday Agreement) between Britain and Ireland which recognises the residents of this part of Ireland have the right to identify as Irish, OR British OR both.
What’s not in dispute is that Ireland has been partitioned and NI has existed for barely 100 years, and that our accents predate this political divide and are distinctly geographical - people from the island of Ireland have Irish accents
You can identify however you wish no treaty changes that. I’m from the other bit of Britain that didn’t want to leave the EU and the same prime minister that worked out the gfa also gave me my own parliament.
I have my own complex feelings when it comes to my relationship with Britain yet do not identity as British. Those feelings are nowhere near as complex as Ireland.
You admitted it yourself that was all I stated. Like it or not ni is governed by the same central spot and most of the world regards both island as the British Isles even though the roi does not.
So to get back to the only thing to stated.
It’s complicated
Substitute complicated with disputed and I agree lol. The Irish Government strongly dispute the term British Isles being applied against our wishes to this island, as it was invented to legitimise a land claim, not innocently by any neutral geographic body.
Unlike Scotland we’ve a treaty which now sets out our democratic pathway to getting the British government to finish their withdraw from our island, but we’re no closer to holding the vote (and don’t control the trigger).
Still raw Scotland missed their chance, but that too is a complicated topic!
Yeh I’m pretty salty about it myself. Even more so with the current shit show.
I remember growing up in the 80s and what that was to this day people I know personally directly involved have complex thoughts in the mess.
On the topic of the geographical status of the island I don’t know close enough to anything to have an opinion so am intentionally
chasingchoosing my words carefully.Edit apparently autocorrect is less careful on the word choice
No worries, I’m not trying to trick you, you of course are right, it’s complicated.
Back to the original topic, what really gets me is shows like Rings of Power double down on Tolkien classism by accent - intelligent elegant Elf’s in posh English, common men in northern English, rough ginger dwarfs in Scottish and then bottom of the class - mud dwelling, starving savage hobbits with Irish accents
What better way to break immersion than have your quest giver start screaming GO ON GIT
It would be funny we had a fantasy world where twang accents are considered posh while British accents are considered casual like just imagine a knight saying “I’ma gonna go kill dis here dragon”.
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Because New Zealand is a fantasy hence why it doesn’t exist on many world maps.
Dwarves in the Dragon Age universe have an US-American accent.
Tolkien, the father of modern fantasy based Middle Earth a lot on old Britain and the affects industrialisation was having.
I’d love to see more fantasy based on Native American mythology for sure.
Native American culture is slept on, fr.
Aztec sacrificing intensifies in the background unnoticed
I absolutely despise how 99% of native American fantasy representation in media is some variation of a wendigo.
We do, they just tend to be the Orcs or Goblins lol
I mean go and watch true blood or read the books ots based off of ?
Ironically the main actress is a New Zealander.
Also wasn’t aware aussie/kiwi accents were a fantasy trope, especially as those countries didn’t really participate in the medieval period.
There is a popular lit rpg series that is all kiwi
The first few seasons, anyways
True Blood is amazing, and it’s deeply enhanced by the hick accents and the protagonist being named Sookie Stackhouse. It’s well worth a watch!