• nyoooom
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    172 years ago

    Because for fantasy we think of middle ages, and middle ages america is full of natives, not a single English speaker in sight

      • @[email protected]
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        The middle ages ended in 1453 with the fall of Constantinople, which coincided with the birth of the Renaissance in Italy having already taken place.

        The Iroquois Confederacy was founded (most likely) in the 1500s, with the earliest record of the first capital being in 1609.

        The United States itself was founded in the 1700s.

        Their comment was correct, the Iroquois Confederacy was founded during the age of the Renaissance and our modern conception of America came much later

  • @[email protected]
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    202 years ago

    Most have Eurocentric accents because those are the areas the various legends and stories originated.

    Various depictions of leprechauns make them pretty much Irish rednecks. I love Mad Sweeney’s depiction in American Gods.

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    272 years ago

    Pretty sure because the “original” fantasy was written as a false history for England (LoTR was this). So it makes sense that the people would bear an English accent

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      62 years ago

      I hope one day we can have a (respectful) mainstream fantasy world for Native America, It could be so cool.

      • Jilanico
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        52 years ago

        Not exactly what you’re looking for, but most characters in A Wizard of Earthsea resemble Native Americans.

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        12 years ago

        That’s cool. I wouldn’t mind fantasy characters having accents (it’s fantasy after all) just providing context for why it’s predominantly English

    • TigrisMorte
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      12 years ago

      No, only folks that never read what Tolkien said about LotR think it is a fake History for England.

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        42 years ago

        I read the Silmarillion, he was sad about the fact that England had no real “mythology” so he made his own

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    22 years ago

    My last character was an orphan (or course), taken in by a dwarf clan, where he worked alongside them in the mines. So, naturally, he was Appalachian

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    Ancient city-sized dragon that is eons older that any surviving historical text or man-made structures in the world, speaking to the dwarf that stands bravely before her: “Well ain’t chu just the most precious lil’ thang I ever did lay eyes on! Wut’s yer name, sugah?”

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        My papy were what you would call an elder dragon, so unless you got the fire power to take down Mrs. Tiamat you don’t stand a chance against me, sugah.

        So why don’t you just cool your heels, I’ll go make us some tea, and you can tell me about what’s going on in the world these days.

  • @[email protected]
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    42 years ago

    British Scottish Welsh (Irish is complicated)?

    I have English being conflated with British but never the other way round.

    I have no idea how I feel about this

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          As an Irish person born in the six counties of Ireland the British claim as “Northern Ireland”, I can assure you that although our identity is complex, we have an international treaty (the Good Friday Agreement) between Britain and Ireland which recognises the residents of this part of Ireland have the right to identify as Irish, OR British OR both.

          What’s not in dispute is that Ireland has been partitioned and NI has existed for barely 100 years, and that our accents predate this political divide and are distinctly geographical - people from the island of Ireland have Irish accents

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            You can identify however you wish no treaty changes that. I’m from the other bit of Britain that didn’t want to leave the EU and the same prime minister that worked out the gfa also gave me my own parliament.

            I have my own complex feelings when it comes to my relationship with Britain yet do not identity as British. Those feelings are nowhere near as complex as Ireland.

            You admitted it yourself that was all I stated. Like it or not ni is governed by the same central spot and most of the world regards both island as the British Isles even though the roi does not.

            So to get back to the only thing to stated.

            It’s complicated

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              Substitute complicated with disputed and I agree lol. The Irish Government strongly dispute the term British Isles being applied against our wishes to this island, as it was invented to legitimise a land claim, not innocently by any neutral geographic body.

              Unlike Scotland we’ve a treaty which now sets out our democratic pathway to getting the British government to finish their withdraw from our island, but we’re no closer to holding the vote (and don’t control the trigger).

              Still raw Scotland missed their chance, but that too is a complicated topic!

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                Yeh I’m pretty salty about it myself. Even more so with the current shit show.

                I remember growing up in the 80s and what that was to this day people I know personally directly involved have complex thoughts in the mess.

                On the topic of the geographical status of the island I don’t know close enough to anything to have an opinion so am intentionally chasing choosing my words carefully.

                Edit apparently autocorrect is less careful on the word choice

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                  No worries, I’m not trying to trick you, you of course are right, it’s complicated.

                  Back to the original topic, what really gets me is shows like Rings of Power double down on Tolkien classism by accent - intelligent elegant Elf’s in posh English, common men in northern English, rough ginger dwarfs in Scottish and then bottom of the class - mud dwelling, starving savage hobbits with Irish accents

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    172 years ago

    Tolkien, the father of modern fantasy based Middle Earth a lot on old Britain and the affects industrialisation was having.

    I’d love to see more fantasy based on Native American mythology for sure.

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      32 years ago

      Ironically the main actress is a New Zealander.

      Also wasn’t aware aussie/kiwi accents were a fantasy trope, especially as those countries didn’t really participate in the medieval period.

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      42 years ago

      True Blood is amazing, and it’s deeply enhanced by the hick accents and the protagonist being named Sookie Stackhouse. It’s well worth a watch!