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Linux vs Windows tested in 10 games - Linux 17% faster on Average::Computers, hardware, software and gaming in Spanish and English
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Man, I am really looking forward to fully ditching Windows.
I finally pulled the trigger (again, hopefully for good this time) after a nonconsensual Windows update corrupted my disk and my bitlocker recovery key was not accepted.
That was a couple months ago now and I’m happy to report that not only is game compatibility on Linux loads better than last time I tried this but I can corroborate that many of my games also perform better on Linux than they did on the same system in Windows
Been dual-booting for about 4 years. It might be time to remove the Windows partition and use a VM though because I only use Windows a few times a year (just once this year for installing it).
Same, except I have two OS drives I swap between. Photoshop and Launchbox are all that’s really keeping me anymore.
I also use 2 drives to avoid Windows “repairing” my Linux install away.
There’s no time better than the present 😀 Windows free since April!
Nice! What distro did you go with? I’ve been really enjoying Zorin.
Zorin OS became my favorite distro, tried a lot over the years. Consistent, clean design and pretty easy to customize, compatibility is good because it’s based on ubuntu. Zorin connect is pretty neat too.
Not to sound sarcastic, but only 17% faster than the operating system known for being an appallingly bloated stack of adware garbage that most people cant get away from because of compatibility? Thats surprisingly low, honestly.
But Windows is usally the system the games are optimized for. Its impressiv how well proton/wine work these days :)
Usually yes, but i thought we were talking about linux gaming, as in games made for both platforms
I didnt watch the full Video, but all games i saw in the clip are native Windows games with no offical port for linux
I don’t think you understand. This is windows games running on Linux through proton. If the games were built and optimized for Linux they’d perform even better
I absolutely understand that, and nothing in my comment suggests otherwise?
I remember when I used to run games via Wine over 15 years ago and they performed better than on similar hardware running Windows.
I don’t really think that’s a fair comparison when you’re emulating things and not running them natively.
Wine is not an emulator. It’s a full implementation of the Windows API, which is why it’s possible to get really good performance out of it in a way that pure software emulation can’t match.
Wine is not an emulator
This is what Wine stands for! It’s a recursive acronym.
I was hoping someone would spot that. :)
Doesn’t really surprise me, I’ve had a Steam deck since launch and the performance on Windows titles has always been impressive, even considering its relatively low-end hardware.
The only thing preventing me from dual-booting my desktop is lack of software RAID support in most distributions (by this I mean RAID configured in the BIOS but not using a dedicated hardware controller).
To be fair, that bios-managed RAID is still using a hardware controller. It’s embedded in the motherboard.
Anyway, hardware RAID is discouraged in home/workstation environments as you don’t have control over how the controller implements it. So if the board breaks, it’s harder to retrieve your data.
Linux has support for real software RAID, for example using LVM or filesystems that have that feature. It’s easier to setup than it may sound. Most distributions can enable that during installation of the OS.
Well, that’s what happens when you don’t have crazy spyware services running in the background. Also Windows, just like any Microsoft product, is very inefficient and wastes lots of resources.
But what about Fortnite and Valorant?
Let’s hope these tik-tok games remain on Windows.
Considering for most games it’s 100% slower, I’m not cheering just yet.
The issue is support not performance.
Uuuh, the compatibility percentage is way past 50%, can’t use the word “most” anymore.
I can count the number of games I had to give up from my several hundred game library when I switched, on one hand.
Every game I’ve bought this year has ran perfectly in Linux. And I don’t check the Linux status before I buy them. Yolo has paid off
Same here, the only games that don’t work are the ones that’s ship with anti cheats the behave like root kits (a really nasty type of malware).
so all multiplayer games basically
No, 99% of multiplayer games work perfectly fine, the only 2 I know of that have rootkit anti cheats are rainbow 6 siege and Valerant
I’m curious about this number, where does it come from? Certainly not https://areweanticheatyet.com/
Same. I think 80% of my pre existing library already worked and then every game ive bought since the switch runs perfect. I used to check protondb first, now I just yolo and add my report later.
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Yeah sounds like you gotta stay on windows…all good
In my experience, most games either don’t work at all (very rare), or work 99% as well as on Windows. For instance, I’m playing Hitman WoA right now, and opening the Steam overlay makes the game run in slow motion until I restart it, and it goes in the single-digit FPS if my laptop is charging. Very rarely does a game run better on Linux than Windows. Alt- tabbing in particular is broken in a lot of games, some of them outright crashing.
Never encountered this issue you have, by any chance on Linux you are using a old version of proton or nvidia GPU?
I’m on an Intel/nVidia dual-GPU laptop.
Could be crashing on alt tab if PC tries to switch to iGpu for DE?
Nvidia is likely the problem, also you mentioned dual gpu, make sure your not on your iGPU
Edit: details.
I’m not on the iGPU. I use prime-run to run Steam, and all games properly detect the nVidia card. Also, I doubt the iGPU could run Hitman at max settings at 60FPS@1440p.
Probably not most anymore but still plenty of them.
Exactly. I don’t care much for Windows bloat, but if 100% of games run on Windows and even 99% of games run on Linux, I’m sticking with Windows for gaming. It’s just that simple. If that ever reverses, then I’ll switch to Linux for gaming.
I just don’t buy games that don’t run on Linux.
There are already too many games I want to play for the time I have so the very few games that don’t run on Linux are not worth my time.
I’m ok with not having access to the 1% of games out there that want to act like rootkits
Windows has so much garbage overhead via telemetry, etc. Glad to see someone quantifying how detrimental it is.
Windows telemetry CPU usage is almost nothing. This is mostly proton/dxvk doing it’s magic.
AVs on windows also do impact disk latency a lot.
Not to also mention the outdated filesytem
NTFS isn’t the issue, at least in my experience, and not even Microsoft’s implementation of it (though ntfs-3g seems faster). The issue is the File Explorer: Things like reading mtimes of gigantic directories takes maybe a second under linux, nushell under windows (native, not WSL) is just a tiny bit slower, while File Explorer takes minutes to sort by mtime. Coming to think of it I should try Dolphin.
Generally speaking the problem with Windows is not so much NT but everything on top of it.
We should rename NTFS to OTFS now.
For real - it would be AWESOME if you could install windows on ZFS or btrfs or whatever
You’d still be running Windows though so why bother
While I agree that Linux is generally better, there are some use cases outside of gaming that work better in (or are required to use for one reason or another) Windows.
Oh I definitely agree. But still; when I’m running Windows the filesystem is very low on my list of annoyances.
That has a hell of a lot of disclaimers around reliability, and I’m not seeing anything about it being able to actually host the operating system on the filesystem itself, or any way to roll this into the installer itself
They knew it’s not going to stay new forever, but they went ahead with that name anyway. I guess that’s what happens when the marketing team wins the company raffle.
Nice for the 3 games that run on linux
That rock you’ve been living under must be getting heavy by now.
lol what are you, from 2005?
why aren’t game producers releasing versions of the game compiled for debian ubuntu and other lInux distros?
Too much effort for too little market share. But since the Steam Deck is popular, it’s harder to ignore Linux.
Yeah, 1.63% is really not a lot at all (according to the Steam Hardware & Software Survey: September 2023). Tbh from a pure business point of view I’m surprised any of the bigger developers bother at all.
Millions of devices is a huge amount though.
Microsoft created directx and its been an integral part of game dev since, not the only reason as I’m sure if Linux had a large market share we’d see devs jumping over
Okay, so say I did switch to Linux. I would have to transfer all of my files that I have saved from Windows and try to make them compatible with being on Linux. It’s also very excruciating and mentally painful that I would just have to start from scratch. I like all the various things I have saved on my PC i would not want to lose them
I like all the various things I have saved on my PC i would not want to lose them
Then make sure you’re taking backups and follow the 3-2-1 backup strategy at minimum. Backblaze is a great option for Windows users to help with that, since it can back up your whole PC for a fixed cost each month.
There’s no reason to rush to start using Linux. If you’re interested, you can always dip your toes in with something like the Steam Deck or booting from a USB drive
What kind of files are you talking about? The vast majority of files will just work once you install an application to handle them. Images, video, audio, etc should all work out of the box on most distro.
“Try to make them compatible” isn’t something you should ever have to worry about for files. Files are files, and you don’t have to convert them to some other format in order to use them. Rather, you’ll just need to install the relevant apps from your distribution’s package manager. GIMP handles Photoshop files no problem for instance. No conversion or such, just… Open them like you would on Windows by double clicking.
As long as you have your files backed up properly it shouldn’t be too difficult. If you don’t, I’d be more worried about what happens if one of your drives failed and how you’d retrieve that data.
I mean transferring files isn’t so difficult. Linux supports NTFS so it’s as easy as opening the files in the file browser and moving them to your linux partition.
But yes in my experience it does take a few months to transition and in that time I did move back to Windows a few times, but eventually I stuck with Linux since it had a lot more features and benefits over Windows
I can understand. Don’t need to switch. It’s normal to enjoy what you’re used to.
Can you be more specific?
I may be reading this wrong, but it sounds like you think Linux requires all your files to be converted to some other format before you can use them. There is no such thing as a Windows-JPEG and a Linux-JPEG, it’s just a JPEG. All your files will still work. It’s the software that opens the files that might need to change (e.g. MS Word or Photoshop).
Unless you’re talking about filesystems like NTFS and ext4, in which case there is no argument to be made as Linux supports NTFS already. In my experience, it “just works”.
I’ll switch to Linux when I can play any game I choose to without any stuffing around, or when/if M$ start charging BS subscription.
I mean they basically do charge you since your data is being sold as the product.
Good note.
The first point is 90%v available already with proton
The fact you have to mention Proton is his point.
How is proton stuffing around? It’s click and play at this point
Wow, it’s so complicated - you have to click install, and then click play! This is bad UX! Obviously Steam should just read my mind so that I don’t have to click at all.
Not only in games, I switched from Windows 10 to LXQT and I can finally open more than 3 programs at the same time without the pc hanging for 10 seconds every time I switched between programs
Steam Deck and Proton have done wonders for Linux compatibility efforts.
However looking at NEW releases I actually want to play, many launch barely working on windows let a lone via proton / emulation. My back catalog has great support but we need more titles launching with official support.
The worst thing has to be all of the “launchers / game stores” JUST GIVE US GAMES!
Even “good” companies like BG3 makers. Are making it harder to play without signing into their launcher.
There’s an extra screen now, which is extremely unintuitive to get to, to skip their launcher sign in :(
Just add this to your launch parameters:
--skip-launcherYou are a gentleman!
Works for Cyberpunk too
This is impressive and interesting, but what about hardware ray tracing support? Proton has been very impressive but I thought that RT on DX12 was basically non-existent on Linux.
Hardware raytracing works even on newer Radeon cards. I played Control recently with raytracing on Linux and it works pretty well, though the average frame rate drops to around 40 FPS. I had to use FSR to get higher framerates.
Raytracing is basically non-existing anywhere, it isn’t a priority.
