What an odd take.
Every dev I know must be terrified of technology as they all use apple laptops. I don’t love apple but they make a pretty sweet *nix laptop for dev work.
My shop is about half and half, and I wouldn’t say that the devs with macs are afraid of technology, but I would say they don’t look real comfortable using a command prompt…
lol it’s the opposite for me. many people use terminal all day every day and run Linux VMs if necessary.
Why you put kali in no life 🧐 what problem does it have
It’S a HaCkeR dIsTrO /s
My guess is the person who originally made this doesn’t have all that much Linux experience and doesn’t know that Kali is just Debian with lots of pre-installed security tools (and not intended as a daily driver)
From its core I think it’s correct we just need a Compactable kernal and drivers and some script to get our work done
I wouldn’t say I’m that techy and I recently jumped over to Linux Mint from Windows because it has the C-compiler gcc pre-installed and it’s UNIX seems to be a better experience for programming. It was easy to install, I find I’m going back to Windows less and less. I used to use Photoshop a lot, now I’m just using Krita. I’m lovin it so far. Only games are a problem maybe, although the game I play has a linux version, I just can’t be bothered loading yet.
Linux Mint is supposed to be the easy for-the-layman Linux distro and that’s been my experience so far - everything has worked, no issues.
I wouldn’t say I’m that techy
I really like the C-compiler and general programming experience
Yeah, okay, I am a little bit techy, but so far I haven’t had to employ any of my limited techy abilities in Linux Mint. I didn’t even notice I was using it more, it just happened over a few months that I was finding there was no need to go back to Windows. To load programs on Linux Mint I just google “How to load program X on Linux”, and there will be a page saying, type “sudo apt install <program_name>” in Terminal and it always works and I’m done. (I’m a beginner programmer who was told to try Linux for the Unix stuff) .
If you’re a gamer, I would look up any discussion of gaming in Linux - that would be my only proviso.
I think the argument boils down to: Can a person who writes down their passwords in excel and calls chrome “the internet” use it. The answer is not yet. It’s better than it used to be but they is still a lot of work to be done. Typing commands in terminal is an actual non starter for my parents. In fact I would argue I don’t want them to be typing any sudo commands in terminal they got from the internet.
Not sure why you got downvotes, my non-techy dad uses Mint to play civilization 5 and hasn’t used windows for at least a decade now.
why the heck is gentoo isn’t in no life section but Kali is???
Exactly. Kali is just Debian
Because rl gentoo penguins rule? 🤷
epic
I don’t know much about it lately, but aren’t Fedora and Ubuntu considered bad nowadays? Mint imo was absolutely great every time I used it except for proprietary drivers needing extra reboots(might be different now)
AFAIK, Fedora is considered stable and is a great choice.
I’ve been a user for years and I would agree with that. The only issue I’ve seen people have recently are with Red Hat and their recent source code policy change
Fedora just works, it made me stop Distro hopping. I don’t want to use something else, but when the day comes on that Red Hat starts making questionable choices, I’ll go back to Debian.
Yeah, without Fedora for me it’s either Debian or Arch. Nothing inbetween. And I do like the inbetween, that is what Fedora is.
but when the day comes on that Red Hat starts making questionable choices,
Uh that day came and went when they changed CentOS from a downstream source rebuild of RHEL to an upstream dev branch that stabilizes into RHEL. They’ve now gone off the rails with closing public access to the sources and having RHEL T&C require customers to either relinquish they’re GPL right to redistribute the sources or have their support contract terminated.
I think Ubuntu has turned to garbage with whatever canonical is doing but I do think Linux Mint is pretty great
I have no control over my Ubuntu’s updates just like with windows. I’d have to ditch snap if i understand properly, which would effectively deUbuntu my Ubuntu. They have a fairly heavily proprietary focus which is also bad.
Come join the Mint gang
I need to leave the ADHD gang first I think lol.
I’m having a ton of fun with Mint. I’m finding it tight, full of relevant software, and quite configurable.
I don’t really know if they’re bad, since I haven’t touched either in years, but they’re both definitely easy distros to get into for beginners who dont want to spend hours configuring their system, thus them being in the yes part of having a life.
I don’t know why someone would call them bad. Especially if you’re trying to install them on non-mainstream hardware. There’s just more support for them.
My own journey to Linux started with FreeBSD. Want to talk about hard to find drivers? Now I have two laptops running Ubuntu and Mint, with Ubuntu running as a VM on Win10.
lol, yeah somebody really hates Macs… I work in tech, and lots of my colleagues also use Mac, I love my Mac…
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Do you play PC games?
Yes
Do you care about privacy?
Yes
LOL get fucked
Moved to Nobara os half a year back and haven’t had much issue with any game so far, not anymore than I did on windows
You can install Steam on Linux. In fact I have 2 PCs in my house for my sons. They run Windows games flawlessly. See for compatibility in the ProtonDB.
See the thing is, when you use Windows you don’t need a compatability list.
On Windows it might be compatible but you’ll still face problems. Not to mention Linux has a better compatibility with older games
Just wait until you try to install it on something without secure boot
Edge with hover button to bing is now your default browser again.
And if that doesn’t work, there’s always
alcoholWineYeah I installed Garuda yesterday and games worked great. It’s literally everything else that had me wanting a “Linux for fucking morons” class.
Maybe relevant 10 years ago, but not anymore. Hell, most games run better with Proton now, no background telemetry crap.
could just be my luck but out of a few games I tried nothing ran as smooth as windows and also no g sync for me
FNV somehow runs more stable on my Steam Deck than my PC at this point.
I tried running FNV on my home PC through Proton and it was basically a PowerPoint presentation. My Windows partition can run FNV just fine, even with a game-breaking number of mods. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong, as I’ve heard that FNV works well in WINE. I’m on Debian in case anyone wants to
dunk on my shithelp me out.
Linux gaming is pretty good these days. Basically the only major games you can’t play are the ones running super intrusive anticheats.
bro why is kali in the “you have no life” section ?? Everyone knows ethical hackers get all the girls
I went to school in cybersecurity (ended up being a run of the mill web dev) and the people who ran Kali knew the least. I blame Mr Robot
Please, please, PLEASE do not use Kali as a daily driver… The maintainers and the organization and every hacking role-model and educator on the internet says to not use it as a daily driver. You want Debian Testing if you’re that worried about having debian-like features but getting a rolling release
I have run into people who use kali as a daily driver. They mentioned it trying to seem cool but it made me think wow this guys an idiot.
Yeah but at least I’m ready to nmap my home network at a moment’s notice
well, nmap can be installed in any distro
“Do you have a life”, FTFU!
Has Gentoo stopped being the distro of choice for people with too much time on their hands?
Compiling the browser or figuring out how to not trigger qtwebengine-dependency. No time to post anything.
I thought that was Arch, but it seems like NixOS is stealing all their users
Windows isn’t afraid of tech, but MacOS is? Give me a break, the Unix style terminal is the reason for using MacOS professionally.
Yeah this used to be the case up until the early 2000s. Then Microsoft started making Windows much less technical (e.g. instead of showing
Error: HRESULT 0x80070002it just showedSorry, something went wrong :(). Conversely, Apple started exposing more tooling for MacOS, e.g. tracing, terminal, etc. instead of just showing<bomb picture>if something went wrong.Depends on the person. Most of the people I know who use MacOS, use it as a glorified Facebook machine. Outside of perhaps Word, they only use the web browser.
In my circles it’s used exclusively for software engineering. Mostly by people who like Linux but don’t wanna deal with any instability brought by customizing your install.
What kinds of customization create instability on Linux but are still possible on Mac?
That’s what I always read but literally the only people I see using them are developers like me.
At work many use Windows but they’re Java developers; they can have that mess.
Computers are a tool and people use it for the needs that benefit them.
To quote a designer friend of mine ‘Apple is the king of average’. :-P Most people I see using apple don’t even understand how shitty the UI is if your workflow is keyboard driven (snap windows w/o 3rd party programs for example.)
I’m not sure if my experience is any kind interesting or not, but here goes. This is coming from the perspective of a software engineer.
After using Windows for a few years, I switched to macOS for several years before needing to use some Windows-only software and switching back.
I always hated using iPadOS, and for a long time, I assumed this was primarily due to the lack of windowed applications (as well as the lack of software that was truly competitive with Windows/macOS offerings, at least at the time).
On the other hand, my experience with macOS is just the opposite. As soon as the feature was introduced, I started using applications exclusively in fullscreen whenever possible. This is partially the fault of macOS’s vanilla window system being unhelpful in several regards, but that doesn’t explain why I now miss it on Windows.
Yes, I know Windows now implements comparable multitouch gestures, but in my experience, it is terrible to use. The scroll speed is far too fast and cannot be changed independently, AFAIK. And maximized applications still have to choose between a persistent window border and a borderless mode that comes with its own pitfalls. I really don’t like it, but I still use alt+tab 99% of the time, just like I did on XP and 7.
I think the root of the problem is that you can only physically look at one thing at a time, but fullscreen applications work best in multitasking when the time spent switching windows (including the time spent consciously thinking about it) is minimized. iPadOS sometimes takes longer and the gesture is uncomfortable to perform on a tablet. Windows gets it wrong in how much you have to keep an eye on it. macOS, in my opinion, gets it just right.
Honestly, most windows users I know at least know where their files are stored and stuff like that. Average Mac users don’t know if something is synced with the cloud or not and can’t unpack a rar archive without calling support because they are deliberately kept dumb by that restrictive, overly oppinionated, lock-in OS and unrepairable, un-upgradable hardware ecosystem. I’m using linux as daily driver on laptop and desktop for almost a decade now and I hate windows with a passion, but mac manages to be even worse. Although windows is also getting worse with every version since win7, so they might be on par soon…
The defaults on Finder are terrible; you’ve just got to have it not default to the “All My Files” view.
As for your RAR archive scenario I’m wondering if you’re talking about System 9 or something? Lol
The rar example was pretty random because I encountered that once. Also, I have t admit that I also know windows users who haven’t got the tiniest clue what they are doing. I just feel like it’s even worse on mac because the OS is more oppinionated and tends to hide even more complexity from its users without actually solving it. Windows also has got some horrendous default settings btw., e.g. hiding file extensions in explorer and searching through documents content when using the explorer search bar.
“do you have a life” -> “Are you independently capable”
FTFY
Ah yes me the intellectual using Kali Linux to play Skyrim
How else will you pen test the dragons?
Wooooo!!! Ubuntu
Wubuntu
Linux is to main stream -> OpenBSD
What benefits do you have using Unix over Linux?
I don’t think OpenBSD is Unix, both unix like. For a usecase, I don’t know if there even is a scenario where you would want OpenBSD as a desktop user, other than preference. I guess it would feel a bit like gentoo.
What benefit would it have as a server or anything else compared to Linux? I’m not in the biz so I really don’t know.
Me neither
NetBSD is love, NetBSD is life.
It’s more about gaming compatibility for me.
I know Linux had been making great progress. But not every game runs well on non mainstream OS’s.
