• @[email protected]
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    282 years ago

    Everyone is saying sex scenes aren’t needed. I present my evidence that sex scenes are needed: Office Space

    The sex scene shows that Peter is paranoid and deeply uncomfortable with the fact that his girlfriend, Joanna had sex with his boss. A fact that Peter heard as a rumour from a horny co-worker. Lumbergh would never talk about their sex life at work as that would inappropriate as a manager.

    The scene also shows how Peter see Lumbergh as a person. It also sets up for the conflict between Peter and Joanna as Peter acts on his nightmare like a child.

    Granted the scene is extremely soft core and played for laughs. However, I think the movie would be a little weaker if Peter had gone to to the office the next day and told everyone about the nightmare without showing it. Yes, you could cut out the scene as the party scene sets everything up for the future conflict. The sex scene shows how deeply uncomfortable Peter is with the situation. It’s truly a scene that does “Show, Don’t Tell”.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      I think they mean scenes that are in earnest. The one in office space is used to intentionally make us uncomfortable, just as Peter is. So it works great here for us to connect more with the main character. But yeah I basically agree. They can work when used with intent.

  • WuTang
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    22 years ago

    strange, I thought it was aimed at them, hence the shitty Netflix billboard that I am impossible to scroll with my kids around and tbh, I feel also this shit as an aggression, like ads.

  • TigrisMorte
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    I think it more likely that they are sick of the idiot love triangle crutch which so many productions desperately wedge into films it has no place in.

  • @[email protected]
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    522 years ago

    I want romance in my romance and rom-coms. I do not want it in my action, thriller, history, sci-fi, fantasy, comedy, or biographical movies. Unless, and this is key, unless it legitimately adds to the movie.

  • @[email protected]
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    172 years ago

    I’d personally prefer that if they aren’t allowed to show it they not bother. All this does is make watching with family uncomfortable or possibly if your aware of the scene beforehand prevent watching it with family at all.

    Assuming i’m not trying to watch it with family I prefer my content uncensored, like they can say fuck if they want to or fuck if they want or actually be seen nude after a shower instead being censored in some form.

    Even when I am watching things with family i’d prefer they just not did things they’d have to censor than taint it with censorship.

  • @[email protected]
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    122 years ago

    Gen x, i think, here. Sex alone does nothing for me. Nudity does nothing. I’m attracted more to people, subtlety, long, slow seductions.

    Most sex I see in tv, movies, is ridiculous. Like, 2 people have been flirting for weeks. One day, chance meeting, they kiss. RIGHT THEN, right after the first kiss, they immediately start taking their clothes off.

    Seriously, who does that?

    Some of the best sex can be if you have your clothes on.

    Also, too many fantasy TV shows have characters who can’t touch other people cuz demon in them, physically touching someone means they’ll lose control, whatever. So they go around miserable, horny, unrequited love and all that. Which to me shows failure of imagination. Sex can be imaginative, creative, so much variety, possibility. Phone sex, mutual self masturbation, why not work those options into the plot?

    But no, in movies and TV, its almost always: kiss, clothes come right off, completely naked, always in a bed, orgasm in 5 minutes. Real life is way more complex than that.

  • Sombyr
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    132 years ago

    As someone on the far older end of gen Z or the far younger end of millenial, depending on where you draw the line:

    I hate sex scenes. I have some personal issues however that may affect my judgment. Trauma and such. Don’t wanna see sex unless I was fully mentally prepared for it, which I just can’t be if it’s shoved into some random movie, regardless of if you warn me in advance.

    It might seem odd, but I wonder if the almost unavoidable overexposure to porn from a very young age elicits a similar response in a lot of younger people. The fact that for a lot of your life, sex is a forbidden thing you have to sneak around to indulge in, and which the one form you have exposure to, porn, carries the risk of addiction. It seems like it’d leave an impression on your mind that it’s a scary thing you have to hide, which I could see eliciting some kind of trauma response when suddenly it’s everywhere and you’re still stuck feeling like you have to hide it.

  • @[email protected]
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    522 years ago

    “Gen Z doesn’t like sex scene put into the movie by senile board members, so they must not like sex in movies anymore”

    • livus
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      52 years ago

      @2ncs not really what the study found.

      The new UCLA “Teens and Screens” study, conducted by the Center for Scholars & Storytellers, found that across 1,500 members of Gen Z, ages 10 to 24, young people wanted to see platonic relationships between onscreen characters, and many felt sex wasn’t necessary for story plot. (Only the respondents ages 13 to 24 were asked about sexual content.)

      “While it’s true that teens want less sex on TV and in movies, what the survey is really saying is that teens want more and different kinds of relationships reflected in the media they watch,” said Yalda T. Uhls

  • @[email protected]
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    352 years ago

    Lots of people in here talking about how sex scenes suck, and they’re right. But I think we should also consider this: decades of focus on abstinence education and evolving parental and institutional surveillance has been successful at making young people have less sex. And now the olds, having achieved their mission, are confused about why the kids are having less sex and making less babies and the media they are creating and consuming is reflecting that.

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        I certainly think that’s true! But things can also be complex and be both as well as other factors.

    • GladiusB
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      182 years ago

      That has nothing to do with less children. It’s a known thing in biology that animals are fully aware of critical mass and adjust their mating for the conditions.

      Every single industrialized country has reduced birth rates because of child mortality, financial stability, and many other reasons that go with it.

      There is no one that didn’t have a kid because of a movie. That’s just ludicrous.

    • @[email protected]
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      242 years ago

      I dont think the abstinence stuff is having sn effect, or is as prevalent as you think. Maybe in America, but the rest of the western world don’t really fuck with it I think>nk?

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        This is a good point! And in fairness, I didn’t actually read the article so I don’t know for sure it’s talking about the whole of western societies. It is the la times though, so that would lead me to believe it’s US-centric.

        Regardless, I think you’re totally right. In America we’re continually getting hammered with the idea that having sex before marriage is abhorrent and anyone who does it should be punished for it with STDs or babies.

        • @[email protected]
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          62 years ago

          Germany keeps good statistics on it, the tl;dr is early loss of virginity peaked around the turn of the millennium, and has been steadily going down since then. The sexual revolution never got questioned in Germany once it was through (sadly, you can’t annoy reverends by kissing in front of their church, any more), no “abstinence only” sex “education” to be found anywhere. The by far overwhelming reason kids cited is “didn’t yet find the right one”, only exception being girls with immigrant background, there it’s “am still too young”, though that number is falling towards “didn’t yet find the right one”.

          Not on that page but when being given a couple of choices saying “which of these things would be a calamity for you right now, and how bad” something like 99% of girls respond with “pregnancy would be the worst”. Teen abortion rates are still very low (at least for a country not caught up in Catholic morals) but that’s due to low pregnancy rates in the first place combined with extensive support thrown at teen couples.

    • @[email protected]
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      292 years ago

      The younger generation is having less sex despite abstinence only education, not because of it. We have multiple studies showing “abstinence only” education is one of the worst ways to prevent teen pregnancy, yet religious conservatives continue to push for this because they would rather control women than lower teen pregnancy.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        You may still be right but this actually doesn’t prove what you’re saying. Abstinence only education having more pregnancies can’t be used alone to indicate if underlying rates of sexual encounters is higher or lower without also knowing other information like rates of condom useage. It can still be the case that rates are lower, but the encounters that are happening are less informed and more risky.

  • AphoticDev
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    432 years ago

    That’s not just a Gen Z thing, nobody I’ve ever talked to likes sex scenes.

    • FlumPHP
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      232 years ago

      Most of them are just dumb. Like a guy finds out his mom just died in a bear attack, so he and his coworker have passionate sex for the first time.

    • Sagrotan
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      172 years ago

      That’s right. If I wanna see that, there’s pornhub etc. In any other movie: skip button. One exception: “The Room”. Makes the cringe complete. Oh, never watch it sober. Of course.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        It’s oddly the perfect Hollywood sex scene.

        I mean, they try for verisimilitude. When I have sex I of course spend hours under flowing white bed sheets running my hand along my partners body and kind of grinding at them, I mean who doesn’t? But it’s always unrealistic. You never even see the dude you’re paying $5.00 an hour to undulate the sheets, not the dude holding the sheets up so you can stare lovingly into your partners eyes.

  • @[email protected]
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    282 years ago

    Generation Xer here… I, too, find the enforced “made-by-numbers” romance and sex cringy, superfluous and utterly banal.

  • @[email protected]
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    242 years ago

    I’m gen x and find that this transition started happening earlier. Once online smut was accessible in early 90’s, what little sex shown on the silver screen became less sought after and just became something we had to sit through awkwardly with family.

  • @[email protected]
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    32 years ago

    I hate sex scenes in movies. By far the worst sex scene I’ve seen was sthe end of Sausage Party. I felt physically ill from it. I watched the movie with my parents and they thought my disgust was hilarious. Now I rarely watch movies other than superhero movies with them.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      I watched a few movies from the 80s and 90s recently, and there are so many cringy and unnecessary sex scenes in those movies it’s absolutely insane

      then the boomers try to act like the youth have a sex problem

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        I can’t watch many movies from the 80s and 90s because of the cringe sex scenes. My parents think that time was the best time for movies and they’re just wrong lol

    • DrMango
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      62 years ago

      That whole movie was just absolute dog water. There’s are good ways to do lowbrow comedy and then there’s Sausage Party.