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The pirates are back - Anew study from the European Union’s Intellectual Property Office (EUIPO) suggest that online piracy has increased for the first time in years. In fact, piracy rates have bee…::We analyze a new study where the EUIPO suggests online piracy is on the increase within the European Union.
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I have subscriptions (and shared subscriptions) to… seven services that I can think of in 20 seconds.
Yet, time and time again, I try to figure out if what I want to watch is covered by one of them (not trivial to figure out), and end up falling back on piracy probably around 50% of the time.
Now that every fucking content owner has its own subscription plan, it makes subscriptions pointless because it’s spread so damn thin.
Cancel all those subs man. They are eating your money without return. It’s better to download the specific show you want to watch.
try to figure out if what I want to watch is covered by one of them
Justwatch.com, my dude.
Doesn’t always work. I’m not in the US. So shows that it says are on a service, aren’t in my country, or if it’s on a service, it doesn’t know because it’s on that service in my country and not the us. For me, Justwatch.com, has been more miss than hit. Sometimes, asking google works, but some services that are available in my country won’t integrate with Google in my country, but if use a VPN for the us on my Android TV it loads all the US features and the integration starts working and everything is correct. So yeah, unless you’re in the US, the experience of figuring out where it is what you want to watch is more miss than hit.
Oh yes this is so true. I have stopped trying to research where each is that I want to watch; if it’s not on netflix or prime video I just download it.
Justwatch has localised results for me in Australia. If your browser is anonymized it may default to US listings. You can change it in the URL path using your country code, e.g. instead of justwatch.com/us/ I go to justwatch.com/au/ and it’s been totally accurate
I use the mobile and tv app.
The shift really proves that Gabe Newell was right and that piracy is a service issue and that, for a time, the many services available were worth paying for.
Sadly most companies are focused on short term profit over long term growth, Steam is the best example of the opposite.
It was honestly really crazy to me when I was excited to see a game on sale, only to remember how I used to pirate everything. Steam has made it legitimately easier to buy games in so many cases.
I sometimes still do pirate games, especially if it’s from a publisher I don’t respect or the cracked version is known to run better, but I buy almost all of my games now days.
I’ve actually started setting up a home server for pirated movies and shows and getting rid of the couple streaming services I have.
I still Piraten EA games, just because the forced origin injection into their games on steam is so fucking annoying, especially if you’re on Linux.
I fucking hate origin, yeah
I know a lot of people idolize him, and that’s probably not healthy, but he just gets it. Provide value and convenience for consumers, and consumers will stick around. Be an inconvenience while squeezing consumers for money, and we’ll leave with a parrot on our shoulders and a one-finger salute.
That’s what happens when you’re not beholden to shareholders.
He’s a weird case, Steam has always been good for pc gaming and Valve releases nothing but polished games without anything predatory.
He just seems to be interested in maintaining a successful business instead of squeezing more money out of people constantly.
Ehh… for as great as Steam and Gaben are, TF2 really seems to have been the catalyst for all the ridiculous lootbox microtransaction mess we have nowadays.
That shit was coming with or without TF2, even if it was the first (which I don’t know if that’s the case). WoW gold farmers proved the concept that people are willing to pay for advantages or conveniences in games (and that was just the first game I played where I saw that, I bet it wasn’t the first), and buying packages with random content was done by MTG and baseball cards before that. It was inevitable that someone would put the two together.
Valve releases nothing but polished games without anything predatory.
Counterpoint: Artifact.
(I mostly agree on everything else though)
I honestly forgot about Artifact entirely.
I think Valve would appreciate if everyone forgot about Artifact as well
cough CS2 cough
Points at CS2
That thing… That wretched thing…
CS2 is great tho
It’s a downgrade to CS:GO in every way, and didn’t address the one problem the community has been complaining about for a decade – cheaters.
I’m surprised that so few people decide to follow the spirit of the law and, just, boycott media instead.
Bread and circuses, and peer pressure means you can’t just settle for the free circus material you can get at the library or even just for free online.
Im not. Relative poverty nor some moralist rational won’t stop most of us from experiencing culture and media we are interested in.
Or more accurately, experiencing culture and media that social pressure coaxes you into being interested in.
Back? From where? looks around to make sure that in same place
Piracy is a service problem.
What service is $SHOW on? Doesn’t matter, it’s already in your favorite piracy site.
I downloaded new content for the first time in a while, recently. It’s on a streaming service that I don’t want (I pay for several).
I’d only been downloading things that I couldn’t stream (* Cannibal Holocaust*, for example) for a long time. I stopped downloading for a number of years. Guess what? My bittorrent client still works. After a number of years buying everything on blu-ray discs (and ripping to Plex) and renting from streaming services, I’m on my way to where I was. I’ll still pay for convenience. I’m done fucking around with complications.
I’ve just started dipping my toes back into the waters again too, also after many years of downloading absolutely nothing. It’s a combo of things prompting me.
First, costs have gotten out of control and prices just keep creeping up. This is happening at the same time as content libraries per service dwindle. I make more money than I used to, yet it feels like it goes not nearly as far these days with prices of everything skyrocketing.
Second, it’s becoming a bigger and bigger pain in the ass to find things. Part of the issue for me is interfaces (though I can get around that, generally). Part is content shuffling from one service to the next. But a big issue is all the trash content companies like Netflix are shitting out to pad their libraries. You have to wade through oceans of garbage to find a single thing worth your time. This experience is exactly why I dropped traditional cable years ago! I hate endless filler trash. I don’t want the illusion of a large library to make it seem like I’m getting value. I just want actual good content.
I 100% believe this. The video streamers are getting too greedy and pushing out too much subpar content. When it was affordable and easy to find what you want streaming was great. Now it’s expensive and stuff in on 12 different platforms.
Also most of what I watch is older so everyone on the creative and production side has been paid the only ones making money at this point are the studio fat cats.
Ads. It’s all because of ads. There is a low tolerance by way more people now, and piracy is more convenient than putting up with platforms that can’t build a UX to save their lives, and then put in ads. Fuck em, let them die.
I disagree in that I don’t necessarily think all of the content is subpar. But making everything on a different service and each service continues to jack up its prices makes it very difficult to justify subscribing to any one of them. Like, I’m never gonna subscribe to peacock even though it has a few things I’d watch on it, that’s ridiculous.
Everything doesn’t have to be a different service, studios are just being extraordinarily greedy.
There’s a bizarre parallel to picking a hospital in America while you’re unconscious in a merc ambulance.
Imagine country where whereever ambulance brings you everything will be 100% covered by national insurance.
Oh no :c online piracy! ARR BITCH
being a pirate is allright to be
Is a lobotomy needed to become a lobbyist?
1.) Article claims w/o any kind of source/data, that people cannot afford subscriptions 2.) Article warns that the big services have to raise their prices soon, because of losses made by piracy, which according to 1.) is caused by people not having enough money for the subscriptions
The article doesn’t mention the shareholders, which get billions of wins by milking the subscribers stupid enough to sign up for the bullshit. … oh, but the article mentions the poor artists/working people, which loose money because of online piracy. I almost forgot about the recent strikes, because the people actually producing the content don’t get shit from the companies/shareholders.
Seriously, I’ll cancel my last subscription right now, because I am feed up giving my money to shareholders, companies and lobbies who buy politicians and laws.
In the early 2000s, tools like Napster and Limewire allowed people to download music and video files for free – depriving artists of their income. The emergence of streaming services like Netflix, Apple Music and Spotify make it easy to access unlimited content – and ensure that artists are paid for their creations.
Seriously… This told me all I needed to know about how objective this article was going to be. Stopped reading right there.
Who is Panda Security?
Wiki page for them. Pretty sure all you need to read is the warnings at the top of the page to know all you need about who they are.
They really should make those warnings expanded by default on mobile. And the last one should be first.
A garbage provider since the 90s.
Panda Security is a Antivirus company.
They are owned by Watchguard which sells physical firewalls, MFA and Endpoint Security (which includes technologies like EDPR or Endpoint Detection and Response)
Absolutely. Spotify doesn’t exactly pay artists very well. It’s better than nothing, but Spotify is wealthier than the vast majority of artists it profits from.
really imagine that, services splitting combined prices rising leads to increased piracy. Shocker
It’s worth noting that although piracy is up, the rates are still far lower than they were 20, 10 or even five years ago. Whether people continue to access content illegally remains to be seen – hopefully this is just a ‘blip’ and rates of theft begin to fall again as the economy recovers.
I can’t be bothered to pull back all the layers of naive optimism in just these two sentences.
Yep. Stop making shit deals and 100 different services to subscribe to and people will go back to paying for things. Gaben is the only smart one.
Until this month I paid more than $100 for multiple streaming services. I finally got pissed off when something I wanted to watch was no longer available. Instead I went and torrented it and canceled 90% of the services. It’s time to go back to self streaming everything.
Welcome back
2015: Share your Netflix between four people, everyone pays $4 per month, have access to 80% of all online content. The interface is shit but you keep up with it because it is cheap.
2023: You pay $20 for Netflix, pay $15 for Disney, pay $15 for Hulu, pay $10 for Amazon Prime, $15 for Discovery, $15 for Paramount, $15 for Youtube, have access to 50% of all online content. The interface is still shit and you wonder why you pay for that shit.
Joe Average: 🏴☠️😎🏴☠️😎🏴☠️😎🏴☠️😎🏴☠️😎🏴☠️ and the interface is easier than ever.
My 2013 Highest-End Smart-TV barely works with Youtube and no longer with anything else. But Burning Series still works marvellous. Another thing: “Consuming” pirated content is not “illegal” in Germany. It is a violation of private property which the rights owner can sue in a civil court. But as long as you don’t use P2P services where you also upload - which would indeed be a fellony - he can not detect what you do and can not take any action against you - so One-Click-Hosters and Warez-Streaming is totally safe. And if the rights owner could find out about you he could at most send you a cease-and-desist-order with a one-time-fee of at max $100 because it is a minor incident. As far as I know there was never a user of Warez-Streaming who paid anything.
The only bad thing: DNS is nowadays filtered at the big Telcos and Providers which means I have to change the DNS inside my Routers to Cloudflare and Google. Which are a lot faster anyway.
Never left
Same. I stopped pirating music and games because Deezer and Steam are so convenient, but as long as there isn’t a way to watch most movies and shows on a single service, I won’t stop torrenting them. The music industry figured it out and all music streaming services have more or less the same catalog; why can’t movie studios do the same?
Maybe because producing music costs pennies compared to producing movies and then people are much likely to listen to the same few tracks for days on end, than they are to watch the same movie for days on end. Music studios may not be too jealous about access because they want to let people listen to their essentially free library in as many places as possible. Movie studios are tens of millions in the red for their big productions and don’t want to share incomes too widely.
Defeat the fucking capitalists
6$ month newsgroups access, 2$ index access a month, 200$ used tiny pc, jellybin, radarr, sonnarr, subnzbd, prowlar, Jellyseer. 4k on demand stream anything to multiple clients.
I downscaled from a 12u rack and went with a $1600 synology with $230 ram upgrade, $600 in wd red pros and a $450 Intel nuc10 with quicksync and ill still come out ahead in a few years (~30 months) compared to what it would cost to access all streaming content ad free ($95/mo for netflix, prime, dnsp+Hulu bundle, max, paramount, peacock, and appleTV by my count)
Add in sharing with a small group of friends who pitch in small amounts and the convenience of not needing to juggle 8 logins or figure out where a particular piece of content currently lives and piracy really does win.
And that’s still a very capable setup. A much more modest Synology can smoothly stream 4k and run *arr app with 2/4gb of RAM.
Lol, that’s a proper setup for sharing. I’m hording mine thou. 400$ of hardware includes 4tb ssd running in k8s cluster. https://ibb.co/gMj0B0R
also, this gives you waaay higher quality than streaming
I haven’t had Netflix for a while and was recently shocked at just how awful the quality was. (this was with decent internet + “full HD” subscription)
