• enkers
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    1792 years ago

    Thank god, I thought this was about the herb.

  • @[email protected]
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    To those who have already switched (whether to Credit Karma or another service): What are you using and why do you like it?

    • @[email protected]
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      I guess it depends on what you’re using Mint for, but I’ve been getting a lot of use out of Empower (formerly Personal Capital) for tracking all my accounts in one place. No subscription or anything, just some pressure, sometimes including phone calls, to use their financial advisor services.

      I’ve had an account with Credit Karma for ages and I’m not sure what service they offer that would be comparable, but they were bought by Intuit a few years ago, so I’d find it hard to recommend them for much anymore.

      • @[email protected]
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        272 years ago

        Ew subscription budgeting.

        Anyone thinking of looking into this ^ it’s a subscription product. Saved you a click.

        • shootwhatsmyname
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          Yes, good services do tend to cost money. Been worth every penny in my experience

          • @[email protected]
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            42 years ago

            Paying for software is fine. Paying way more in perpetuity because fuck you is trash.

            Being condescending is even more trash.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      I switched before this because I wanted to keep an eye on my credit score. Credit Karma gives me both scores and with more detail than I was getting from Mint.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        Does credit karma still at least post transactions? Can’t check myself until I get home from work.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      I’d recommend avoiding Credit Karma. It was great until it was bought by Intuit a couple of years ago. I don’t know that it’s changed a ton yet, but Intuit, so if it hasn’t enjoy that while it lasts I guess.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    42 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Intuit first acquired Mint in 2009, an app that has offered a free way for users to track their budgets, manage expenses, negotiate bills, and keep tabs on subscriptions.

    On a support page on Credit Karma’s website, Intuit says “the new experience in Credit Karma does not offer the ability to set monthly and category budgets,” adding that the app instead “offers a simplified way for you to build awareness of your spending, and track your savings.” Intuit says it still plans on adding ways to view transactions, track spending, and aggregate financial accounts.

    The Verge reached out to Intuit for more information about the features coming to Credit Karma but didn’t immediately hear back.

    Earlier this year, Credit Karma added one of Mint’s key features: the ability for users to track their net worth.

    Users can also download and delete their Mint data if they don’t want to move to Credit Karma.

    This change seems to have been in the works for quite some time now, as Mint users across Reddit have seen prompts to migrate to Credit Karma over the past few weeks.


    The original article contains 377 words, the summary contains 185 words. Saved 51%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • @[email protected]
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    372 years ago

    Pretty much just gone back to a spreadsheet.

    insights about spending up and down per category and automatic categorization was pretty nice.

    Budget targets were nice.

    I’ve been meaning to look around for something self hosted or FOSS.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      I use a spreadsheet. I have a macro for categorisation but you could probably do it with vlookup instead.

      I like using a spread sheet because I’m not locked in to anything, and neither is my data.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        I also have a robust spreadsheet that has enough VLOOKUPs to choke a supercomputer. Mint was just an aggregate for all my financial institutions that I could then export from the site and into my spreadsheet. I’m willing to pay for this aggregate service, just not a lot.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          I can export spread sheets from my bank website and then have them automatically processed. I do it once a month, and it’s only a couple of minutes to do. I can understand the appeal of an aggregate service but I don’t find it helpful in my case.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 years ago

          I have my spread sheet set up just how I want it, based on what I am looking for in a money management tool. I’ve come to accept that no other tool will do what I want as well as the thing I set up myself.

          • capital
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            22 years ago

            How are you entering transactions? Manually?

            • @[email protected]
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              22 years ago

              Each month I download a spreadsheet of transactions from my bank’s website. I only manually set categories for things not previously seen.

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        It’s awesome. I recommend not linking bank accounts anyways and doing all transactions manually. Helps with keeping track with your budget better, imo.

        • Goronmon
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          Problem is when you procrastinate because manually importing transactions and correcting them is just annoying enough to make it a hassle. Then the transaction batch gets too large and you can’t remember details anymore so you give up and don’t track your budget at all.

          That’s been my experience in the past at least.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            This. I went back to my XLS because it’s much easier to manage and massage the data.

            I did like some parts of Actual Budget, and incorporated them into my spreadsheet.

  • @[email protected]
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    162 years ago

    Well, crap. I use mint to track net spending and give me a forward budget. Time to find something new, I guess.

  • N-E-N
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    192 years ago

    Been wanting to switch to a local-only solution for ages, guess they’re forcing me to hurry up :D

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      I made the move years ago and haven’t regretted it at all. I just hate that most of the solutions are subscription crap (looking at you YNAB) though the one I use is a pay once service unless you pay for the bank connection.

      • N-E-N
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        22 years ago

        I just heard about Cashew which I think ima try and switch to. What are you on?

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          I use Moneydance, it isn’t the prettiest program out there, but it does what I need better than anything else I’ve tried and is available for every platform you can think of. I like that it is a one time cost as well, paying a subscription for this type of software seems insane to me.

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        I got YNAB 4 in a Steam sale before it was delisted and I don’t understand what the subscription version could possibly add to make it worth the cost. Having it connect to your accounts is more convenient than downloading OFX files, but that’s not worth $99/year.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Such a thing exists? I haven’t been able to find something that will connect to my accounts and pull data automatically.

      • N-E-N
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        52 years ago

        Ah nothing that pulls the data automatically but, I stopped sharing my bank passwords with them anyway cause it felt kinda sketch haha

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          I feel that same, I stopped using mint for that reason but I haven’t found a self hosted replacement yet.

    • @[email protected]
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      The “Sunset” edition of Microsoft Money is still available for free, although not directly from Microsoft anymore. It’s old but it can handle regular accounts and investment accounts; no online functionality, but it supports importing OFX files, and QFX files if you change the file extension.

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    I used to use Mint before they got acquired, I stopped in 2012ish for security concerns because back then the way you connected was just giving them your password.

    Also it broke all the time and my student loans got stuck while my checking accounts didn’t so it ruined my net worth chart which was like 80% of why I liked it.

    But, shame it’s shutting down even if I didn’t like it I’m sure it was useful to others.

  • YⓄ乙
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    652 years ago

    Lol comments are hilarious. Everyone thinking of a different Mint

      • @[email protected]
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        82 years ago

        Personal Capital or whatever they rebranded to has been generally stable since I left mint a few years ago.

    • @[email protected]
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      Pre-Intuit it was pretty decent, before banks had their own apps and before there was much competition. Once I could use my credit union’s app and it had all the usual features no more need for Mint.

      These day-to-day budgeting apps with categories and stuff, it’s great when you’re spending in a similar manner or have specific goals. Once I had a mortgage and bills and stuff, I found the granularity of the information wasn’t as relevant, I kind of know what’s going on intuitively enough. Also you have a lot bigger unscheduled spending, like propane every 2-6 months which is gonna be like $1000 and seasonally dependent, yeah you can work it out per year to know you’re okay, but to have some alert that’s like “YOU WENT OVER YOUR AVERAGE ON BILLS THIS WEEK BY 300%!” is unnecessary. Similar with food, I’m gonna load up on meat and it’s gonna be like YOUR FOOD SPENDING IS OFF THE RAILS. Things like “you spent x more on gas this week” it’s like useless info, “okay I won’t buy gas and go to work then… thanks.” “You spent x more on vices,” sure, but I think people know they’re making a bad decision and it’s just a 2nd validation to “manage” the vice spending.

      For useful reporting you can just export your data from your bank/cu and make your own reports. Apps that amalgamate your financial data are still useful but then you’re in to legit financial planning territory which is sort of a separate category of apps.

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        22 years ago

        Same. They can’t justify me to pay a fee that increases every year.

    • @[email protected]
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      YNAB is a waste of money imo. It’s literally just a spreadsheet with a bunch of mumbo jumbo to justify you paying for it while still manually doing all the work.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        The only work you manually have to do is approve transactions that have been auto imported for you - and that’s absolutely a feature, not a bug

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          Except the auto-imports fuck up constantly which means you need to manually reconcile them. And they straight up discourage you from using auto imports in the first place. You’re “supposed” to reconcile all accounts manually in YNAB.

          On top of that you have to make sure every transaction is categorized correctly, so there definitely is manual work to do.

          It’s a spreadsheet with a cult, nothing more.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            Interesting that you run into those issues, I’ve had it for years and handedly had to manual reconcile more than once or twice early on, certainly not in the last few years

            Good news is, no one is making you use it!

    • @[email protected]
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      92 years ago

      Hello, this is post World War I Germany calling. Please hold, we have Zimbabwe on the phone right now

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    If someone is looking for a local hosted budgeting alternative, consider using Actual Budget. It’s an open source app that’s similar to YNAB

    https://github.com/actualbudget/actual

    Edit:

    Also this is an interesting read from the original developer of Actual. Basically, it started as a closed source web app funded by a subscription model. When the business failed, he decided to open source it

    https://actualbudget.com/open-source

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      As a user of YNAB, I’m glad there’s an open source option, as well. The method/approach really clicked for me.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      Thank you for posting this. Stupid question, how do I download just to put it on my laptop? I don’t download from github a lot and I’m a little lost pulling down the exe.

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        I don’t think it’s offered as as an exe as it’s server-client model where you access it through a web-browser. If you want to just run it on your laptop, it can be both your server and client. The installation instructions are here, and there are also instructions for Docker on the left-side menu.

  • Pxtl
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    2182 years ago

    Oh good, I thought this was about the Linux distro.

  • @[email protected]
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    382 years ago

    Oh thank heavens, I thought they were shutting down the economies of Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey