YouTube is increasing Premium prices in multiple countries, right after an ad-blocker crackdown | You either pay rightfully for the video content you consume, or you live with the ads.::Google is increasing the prices of YouTube Premium and YouTube Music Premium subscriptions in some regions, right after blocking ad-blockers.

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    2 years ago

    mine went from 17 AUD to 33 AUD.

    what a bunch of greedy assholes.

    I was paying for it for years. But now I’ll go out of my way to not pay for it. No doubt a lot of people will too.

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      TF? (aka fuck’em) That seems like the USD price is probably going to rise too then. USD 9.99 right now for me and that’s AUD 15.41.

      AUD 33 would be more than doubling it for me, just like Disney more than doubled my barely used subscription (I instantly cancelled that).

      One Piece is going to have real live action now methinks.

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      Not certain what is up with yours, but mine has been increased to $17 from $15 AU.

      *Ah, the Family plan.

      $18 > $32. An absurd increase especially given the single plan was just $2.

  • @[email protected]
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    132 years ago

    I pay for YouTube because I leave it on basically all day. It’s worth the 14ish(I don’t remember) a month. I just wish more of my pay would go to the creators.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      If you’re happy with the service then I hope it remains a good cost for you, to me it costs too much for what I would actually want it for.

        • @[email protected]
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          72 years ago

          They seem to be increasing in frequency. If this is only the second one you’ve seen in the last 24h then you’re lucky.

      • @[email protected]
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        112 years ago

        I have a question for people using sponsorblock. Why? How do you expect a content creator to pay the bills? I use an adblock because fuck Google but content creators pick up sponsorships specifically because YT pays like shit.

        • @[email protected]
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          82 years ago

          I don’t care who’s serving the ads, I don’t want to watch ads period. I will pay for the content where possible though. I dont think youtube taking 45% considering the crazy infrastructure provided is that strange. Maybe 45% is still too much, but i don’t think 55% sounds like “shit”.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            I forgot that the people I watch are far less mainstream. They survive on Patreon and sponsorships because they’re constantly demonetized, thus my perception it pays shit.

            • @[email protected]
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              12 years ago

              That’s fair enough. Didn’t think of that angle which is a pretty relevant one considering how easy it seems to be to get demonetized.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            This didn’t help me, I understand advertising. My questioning sponsorblock apparently didn’t properly convey that a huge part of my confusion is that you can just… Skip that part. It’s not like rolled ads and even then I already mentioned support for adblocker.

            Like it’s overkill, obsessive type feel to me “I hate advertising so much I want everything to be automatic so I don’t even process for a 10th of a second that I may have consumed an ad” while most people are like “Oh it’s the sponsor” click click and move on. And hey maybe I see a it’s a product I DO use like Displate, so the discount code is useful.

            • Beefy-Tootz
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              22 years ago

              Is the question “why automate when you can manually do it?” I think that’s where the confusion may lie. Why wouldn’t you automate it if you were going to do it anyway?

        • @[email protected]
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          52 years ago

          Counter-ask: how does watching the sponsored content help them?

          They’ve been paid initially, people who use sponsor block are way less likely to sign up for the service.

          Watching it does literally nothing for them if you don’t sign up… The sponsor won’t even see metrics of who skipped the sponsored portion

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            It just seems like overkill to me tbh. The content creators I watch need sponsors to get by, so I’ll take a peek at what they’re offering in good faith. If I don’t like it I just skip to the end of the bit, or leave the video since a few put them at the end. You’re not messing with corporate profits or anything.

            • @[email protected]
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              12 years ago

              Ok, but you can set it up to not auto skip. You could just get a button to skip to the end of the promotion - I think that’s the default even

              But I’ve literally only looked into a product sponsored by a creator once, and once I saw the price tag I clicked off. And that was after I installed sponsor block

        • @[email protected]
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          42 years ago

          Most ads are for products in another country so even if I hypothetically wanted it I can’t get it so why waste my time on it. And if they are multinational companies I usually don’t want anything to do with it. I also just don’t want to be advertised to. It’s wasting my time because 99.99% of the time it’s irrelevant to me.

        • @[email protected]
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          142 years ago

          They’re already getting paid for putting it in their video. Sometimes the sponsorships are on a “per signups” basis and I have never once come across a YouTube sponsorship for something that I would actually have a use for. They’re either already getting paid or they weren’t getting my money anyway so I might as well skip it. I don’t need to hear a pitch for something I don’t want/need

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          YT does not pay like shit. A lot of the time sponsorships are much more targeted and interesting than YouTube ads.

          That being said I mainly dislike bad ads. Good, well targeted ads that don’t destroy your eardrums for products that interest me seem nice. But they don’t tend to exist.

        • Beefy-Tootz
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          252 years ago

          I’m only speaking for myself here, and I’m certain you’re not going to like the answer I have to offer. That’s not my problem. I don’t like being advertised to. I don’t like others telling me what I’ll like or what to do. I’m a monster, I know, I also take pee breaks when commercials come on tv as well and I usually arrive late to movies so I can skip the previews.

          Seriously though, I really don’t care how they pay their bills, they’re a dancing monkey on the sidewalk that I enjoy for a couple minutes and move on. If they can’t afford to keep making content and quit, I’ll just move onto the next channel that’s still producing. It’ll never run out, just like there’s always going to be someone who sits through the ads or actually buys whatever their shilling. At the end of the day, it’s their responsibility to make sure their shits handled, not mine. If they can’t pay their bills, they should probably do something that offers a more steady income stream.im not obligated to give them my time in exchange for them getting money. They get my time in exchange for me being entertained, that’s it. Maybe if they made content for enjoyment instead of money, they’d make better content.

          Before we get to name calling, I am fully aware that this is a shit take, but it’s the truth. I’m a cynic and I’m not very fun at parties either

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            10000% this. I don’t give a shit how you make money. YouTube started out as a place to let people show off to the world. It was wholesome. It was a community. Then they started paying people for views and it got perverted into this capitalist hellscape we have now where the most popular channels are garbage spewed out by content farms that exist to game an algorithm. Where the highest earners can commit literal crimes and get a slap on the wrist because Google wants the ad revenue their views bring in. This is not a community of the “you” the end users who just want to share interesting hobbies and funny clips with the world. Put the “you” back in YouTube.

            • Beefy-Tootz
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              22 years ago

              Exactly!! I’ve been on the Internet for a long time. I remember the pre-youtube days. Way back when the Internet wasn’t exactly profitable. That meant that the content you found was genuinely made just to share something. I remember the early days of YouTube where people were just making cool shit. A good example, and I understand people have opinions that differ, would be RoosterTeeth. Started as just friends making funny shit, and they did separate shit for money to support making the fun stuff. Now, they’re a very different company owned by a mega corporation. They exist to produce favorable content and farm views. With the way that shit goes viral nowadays, there isn’t really a chance for small communities to exist before whatever space it is eventually explodes. I’m not saying small communities don’t exist, but there’s a big difference between what was and what’s become. Everything’s so much more commercial and purely for the intent of clout or money. People are actively trying to meet KPIs to satisfy arbitrary algorithms. Just go back to making entertaining captivating content.

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            I am fully aware that this is a shit take, but it’s the truth. I’m a cynic and I’m not very fun at parties either

            I love basement dwellers. Moms cooking, pops paying the internet bills and he thinks he’s not going to see ads with his hands on cheetos, watching Netflix and ordering on food delivery app he subliminally remembers. But they were totally not from the ads.

            • Beefy-Tootz
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              52 years ago

              That’s an awful lot of assumptions and insults coming through to someone who’s just answering the question honestly. I’m not naive enough to think I’m advertisement proof, I just get tired of them and avoid them where I can. I’m failing to see what your point is

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                Just because you’re honest doesn’t mean you get a cookie. Your take a isn’t just shit, you’re a fucking thief stealing from mostly ordinary people who are trying to find new ways to make money because the traditional economy fails us. You can take your whining and go fuck yourself as far as I’m concerned. If you don’t want to watch sponsorships that help people make more money then turn the fucking content off. Entitled twat.

                So many gigantic hypocrites on this site. Any time success for workers requires even a tiny amount of time all you hypocrites on this site suddenly turn into penny pinching fuckwads. bunch of fake leftist tools. It wasn’t enough for you to block ads so now you’re also blocking sponsorships, so that tells me you think you’re entitled to free work from others which makes you no different from some corporate capitalist shithead.

                • Beefy-Tootz
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                  12 years ago

                  I don’t think thief is the right word. Would you consider someone who stands by a busker listening to their whatever and not throwing a coin in the hat, a thief as well? I get your point, I just think you went about it the wrong way. Who has the better claim to entitlement, the person who already got paid for the sponsorship based on their existing performance metrics, or me and my time? Are you a thief for taking a piss during a commercial break? Are you a thief for arriving late to movies to intentionally skip the previews? Where’s the line here? I’m also not sure of where my hypocrisy comes in either. I have no fantasies about other people wanting to hear what I have to say, especially if it’s going to cost them time or money. I’m not blocking advertisements and expecting people to watch mine. I don’t have anything to advertise. If I wanted to make a shitty YouTube video to entertain people, I’ll do that, but I’m not going to pretend that it’s going to put food on my table. My real job does that. I’m not so vain as to think I deserve other people’s time and attention. What makes Linus tech tips entitled to my time, or Mr beast, or whoever else is churning out mediocre content purely for profit?

    • @[email protected]
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      2 years ago

      +1 for yattee on IOS. Until we can get ublock origin on iphones, but that’s another story

      • circuscritic
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        142 years ago

        Doesn’t work. I have network wide DNS filtering, but that alone doesn’t stop YT ads.

        If you have a link to a GitHub host file for that, I’d definitely take a peak.

        Otherwise, uBlock and *Pipe apps.

        • @[email protected]
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          92 years ago

          Yep. I tried doing this with Hulu’s self-serving ads and I blocked enough domains that it just quit working

      • @[email protected]
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        92 years ago

        Try blocking the ads.
        You will block the video serving domains as well :)

        YT/Google aint that stupid and knows how to bundle both for your convenience.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      I never see Vivaldi mentioned in these. Yes, it’s chromium based, but I have not seen a single YouTube ad since they implemented built-in ad block many years ago. Without the need for extensions, plug-ins, or user managed block lists.

      • Craton
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        12 years ago

        yeah, ive been using vivaldi and only very recently did i see my player diabled with ubo off but if i disable ubo and put vivaldi’s blocking option to just block trackers, that does the trick tho the ad starts with a black screen but the skip button instantly appears under .5 seconds or the video starts

  • @[email protected]
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    622 years ago

    This is why Google has been using their browser monopoly to push their “Web Integrity API”. If that gets adopted, they can fully control the client side and prevent all ad blocking.

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        22 years ago

        Google also said they would cancel there plan to roll out FLoC after significant pushback a while ago, only to renamed it as Ad Topics and roll them out anyway when no one is looking. If Google do the same with web integrity API, I wouldn’t be surprised anymore.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          To be fair, FLoC had signifient issues and could be used to fingerprint users. Google’s whole point of FLoC was to get rid of third party cookies, to stop sites from fingerprinting users and tracking them throughout the web, so FLoC didn’t really solve the problem in that regard. With Ad Topics, only a limited subset of topics are presented to the advertisers, and fake data is injected, making that fingerprinting less likely.

    • Jolteon
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      292 years ago

      Thankfully, Firefox is still a thing. If that comes out, it’s going to be a hell of a lot more popular.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        … and dependent on Google ; they may either push that API into FF or push something different so bad that FF would lose even more users.

  • furzegulo1312
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    742 years ago

    well i for one ain’t paying shit to google, nor am i watching any ads 👍

  • @[email protected]
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    412 years ago

    Unpopular opinion: this is a good thing.

    (Waits for down votes… )

    This is healthy for the ecosystem, it makes it possible for other video platforms to compete, and be sustainable. Google providing the loss leader in video streaming makes it difficult for other platforms to exist, and sustain themselves, because they don’t have Google’s war chest.

    So it’s going to be a difficult transition, but now there is wiggle room for other platforms to exist. And with 1 gigabit, and 10 gigabit home internet connections becoming more common globally, we have options for more interesting gorilla distributed video streaming.

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      You’re right I hope. Especially about gorillas sharing video! We need a guerilla movement to get these gorillas some cell phones and I’ve been saying it for years!

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      Will the gorillas go door to door with a pad or something with a video on it, or are you thinking memory sticks?

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        Both services are available, and I recommend paying the extra for the ‘please dont rip my arms off’ extra.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        More like IPFS. If you have a bunch of gigabit residential internet connections distributed globally. That’s a reasonable approximation of a video streaming platform.

        I’m not saying I have a good solution for today, but all the components are there to build a competitor to YouTube, and now if the price barrier going up, there’s room for whatever organization competes with YouTube to get some sustainable income

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      This is what I’ve been saying, youtube providing the service for free is what’s been preventing competitors to exist.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      This is a really good point, I never thought about this. While we still haven’t seen the anti-adblock message from YT (Firefox + uBlock Origin on Linux Mint), we’ve been using Nebula more and more lately. It would be great if there was a similar service for quality kids content. As it stands we stick to just a couple YT channels for our 2.5 year old because of how much absolute, irredeemable garbage there is targeted at kids there. I can’t imagine how shit the ads are for them.

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        I have no idea what the content is like on YouTube Kids but on my YouTube app when I cast kids stuff the display ads on the phone side are often for mobile games with really creepy shit like dead Paw Patrol characters and grieving Elsa.

        I’d never leave a little one attended with an iPad with YouTube on their own

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      Significant portions of the US are still on copper cable or DSL, I don’t think there’ll be widespread fiber, let alone 10G for at least 10-15 years

      • @[email protected]
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        Agreed, I’m in northern Canada and only the capital city of my territory has cable internet, the outskirts of the city and the smaller communities are stuck with ancient and capped (300GB per month) DSL at 15 Mbps while I get unlimited 100/10 Mbps for $140 per month. I’d kill for symmetrical 100/100 so I could access my plex server outside of my house, let alone 1 Gbps fiber internet.

        I’d guess we’re a minimum of 5-10 years away from fiber internet sadly, we just don’t have the population to make it profitable enough for the greedy ass telecom companies, even with the extra government funding the telecom gets for serving our low population territory.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      10Gb to the home? Where have you seen this, and.for how much? I had no idea that was a thing for residential

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          Wow that’s nice! I get 600/25mbps for $80USD in the US, coax 😞 wish fiber-to-the-premise was a possibility in my neighborhood

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            Even that’s twice what I get. The prices here are disgusting… I get 300mbps for $100… Yay monopolies!

            • @[email protected]
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              32 years ago

              My parents get 25/1 for ~$150 since there’s no other options, nor is there any plans to run new cable to get them better internet.

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        64.75 Swiss Franks per month from my ISP, it’s the same price as their 1 Gb/s and 25 Gb/s plans.

        I’m currently still on 1Gb/s because buying the faster router, switch and network cards to make use of more is kind of expensive

  • @[email protected]
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    262 years ago

    I will be stone cold dead before I pay a single dollar/euro to Google for THEM to harvest MY DATA to resell.