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Bubba Copeland shot himself in front of police on Friday, days after he begged 1819 News not to expose his private life.
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This is a tragedy that should never have happened.
I’m in rural Georgia. If you want to hold any political office at all, you have to be Republican. That’s just the way it is. There’s a Democratic party, and they run candidates in most elections, but they’re doing pretty good when they get more votes than the Libertarian candidates do. So if you want to change shit or do any good at all, you run as a Republican, and you vote in Republican primaries. At a local level, there are definitely people that are trying to do good things that are Republicans, even though they agree with most or all points of the Democratic party.
I haven’t seen any indication that this person–and I don’t know how they privately self-identified–was anti-LGBTQ+, aside from their association with the Republican party.
When you’re in a small town in the south, esp. when you’re involved in small town politics in the south, this kind of thing is a social death sentence. It would likely mean the loss of both of their jobs, and possibly their family.
They didn’t deserve this.
No one deserves this.
The people celebrating their suicide, because they were religious and in local politics as a Republican, should be ashamed of themselves. Trans lives matter, but only as long as they fit in the molds we’ve made for 'em, huh?
My heart goes out to their family.
He added that it would “not cause my life to change.”
Well, that was wrong. /s
Seriously, though… it’s almost as though being a member of a hate-group (conservatism) results in terrible outcomes when you’re on the outs with said group.
Most comments here are horribly bigoted and disgusting honestly
It’s a really weird situation. … Here we have a conservative who is writing the kind crime novel that conservatives tend to write about trans people that utilizes a bunch of fairly stereotypical transphobic narratives that internally within the trans community would elicit disgust and ridicule and then appearing to act it out.
While it’s possible they could have been trans themselves this feels a lot more like someone treating the conservative stereotype of trans people as a kink and acting on it. JK Rowling writes this kind of shlock the key difference being she, at least as far as we know, didn’t write it as part of some sort of LARP. This person was in a complicated situation, even if they weren’t trans they were caught doing things the right would look at as definitive evidence as trans and they likely had trans or trans ally commenters telling them that what they were doing was not okay. So you either have a trans hypocrite willing to set their own community on fire because of their subscription to conservative values and tropes or you have a rather stupid conservative secretly treating a trans psychokiller trope as their personal fetish or trying to use it to add realism to fuel their hobby of writing transphobic fiction and got caught by a community that is both extremely transphobic and equally not empathetic to it just being a kink.
For those who are claiming cognitive dissonance in the audience there are a few things at play.
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Suicide is a tragedy. Many of us know what the impacts of that are on communities and loved ones. This person did some bad shit but not the sort of thing we would execute someone for doing. This is still a tragedy.
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In a conservative run world being closeted and driven to suicide is a thing that has happened to generations of trans people who were not this person. It is okay to register that is not something we want to keep or return to. Feeling some empathy for trans people caught in this situation is normal.
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We don’t really know what this person’s actual situation is but in absence of context they effectively died becoming the sort of bogeyman the right loves to spread. They effectively died making the trope seem more real which isn’t great for the trans community particularly regardless of this person’s potential transness.
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Stalking isn’t fucking cool. Neither is writing this kind of shit.
However you want to feel about this on the spectrum of “fuck this person in particular” to “that poor person, this shouldn’t have happened” this all is valid. But it isn’t hypocrisy, it’s nuance and the right does not fucking understand nuance.
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Yo what’s up with lemmy’s being psychos saying they don’t care he died since he was a republican
The man was publicly humiliated (by his standards) to the whole world and ya’ll encourage it?
Whoever published the blog should be sentenced.
Pro-life crowd bullying other people into suicide is very funny indeed
I hate that he felt the need to kill himself for wearing women’s clothing. But I also hate that he aligned himself with the party that’s all about hating on men wearing women’s clothing.
Guess he didn’t really believe in his religion since suicide is a big no no.
Nobody’s perfect
He was Baptist not Catholic. Keep your sects straight.
The big question would be does the church teach that the person loses their salvation (acceptance by God, eternal life, place in Heaven) if they kill themselves?
That would be the “big no-no” I thought the poster was referring to, not just “is it bad?”
The real big question is, who fucking cares what ancient charlatans told stone age tribes what the fake sky man thinks?
Well, it was son-of-dad’s speculation we were discussing, so I guess at least him.
And me and you, since we’re heavily involved.
No, definitely not me.
It’s hard to keep track. Can you give me a list?
In Judaism and Islam, suicide is forbidden. But in recent times Christianity has changed it’s stance on suicide. If it is done under great duress or mental illness, it is not a sin. If it is done to save others, it’s also not a sin.
According to another poster above he was a baptist, according to them suicide is a sin although not an unpardonable one
https://erlc.com/resource-library/articles/suicide-from-a-christian-perspective/
I mean realistically Jesus himself said that there’s only one unforgivable sin and that is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.
Even then, he only said you would be in “danger” of hellfire for doing that.
I like to believe that we live in a universe where it is just as hard to go to hell as it is to go to heaven.
I mean even in Revelations it said that everyone would be split right up the middle the ones on the right side would go to heaven the ones on the left side would go to the “second death”, and then there would be a small group of people in the middle who also get shunted off to the second death, and only a very small group of people would be given eternal life and then thrown into hellfire, namely the Antichrist and the false prophet and Satan, and their followers.
So you have to really really want it to go to hell.
There’s no official spokesperson for Baptists. It’s a movement, not an organisation.
The only thing they actually care about is how they’re perceived by the rest of the cult.
Do you consider Islam and Judaism to also be a cult?
I do.
Basing your entire moral philosophy on an invisible sky daddy is weird and cultish. You should do some serious critical thinking when developing a moral philosophy, it shouldn’t be based on ancient texts and interpreted by people who want your money.
Liberals: “We need to be accepting of diversity, races, genders and other cultures because everybody was born this way!”
Also liberals:
What does this even mean??
It means, some people like to believe they’re “the good guys” while practising their own brand of bigotry when it suits them.
You need to be more clear. I don’t know what the fuck youre taking about.
Are you trying to make some weird connection between LiBeRaLs and the fact that several people in this thread are dunking on organized religion?? Because if you are, that has nothing to do with politics. That’s religion. And they are very separate entities, even if there’s a fuckton of conservative religious weirdos trying to push their agendas. But you can adhere to any political affiliation and still recognize that believing in magic is primitive.
I don’t think you’re cut out for abstract thought. Or maybe thinking in general. Don’t feel bad though. Not everyone is well equipped for thinking.
“critical thinking” aka dismissing anything that cannot be 100% proven and holding religious scripture to a less fairer standard than most historical documents.
So the man who dressed in women’s clothing supported the party that hates men who dress in woman’s clothing. Hard to have much empathy.
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Also a pastor, “shot himself in front of police during a welfare check.” It also appears that his wife was aware and involved with the hobby (not with the suicide), presumably in a supporting way.
I may disagree very strongly with this guy’s politics, but fuck the assholes who make this shameful.
@Poutinetown quotes from the article:
… even though it does not appear [Copeland] had taken any public positions against LGBTQ issues that could be construed as hypocritical.
This is tragic but I feel like shaking the people trying to shame or guilt the ones who outed and ridiculed the Mayor.
“Are you happy now?”
Yes, of course they are. The cruelty is the point.
These are the assholes who make it shameful.
Leopard face eating moment
Sadly this is a prime example.
This is a rare example of the leopard eating its own face!
It’s not a “rare example”, it’s the whole point of the leopard-eating-face thing. People support a political party and then react with shock when the party carries through with its promises in a way that hurts them.
It’s not news when someone votes for the leopard and then sits back smugly while the leopard eats the faces of other people.
I’m referring specifically to the act of him killing himself.
Republicans have a track record of voting against their own interest and *shocked pikachu* oh no! These policies are hurting me??
This guy took it a step further by being the one to pull the trigger.
…if only that wasn’t rare. If our nation’s trash made a habit of taking itself out as this fucker did, a lot of problems would get fixed very quickly. The opposite is usually what happens - evil shits are like cockroaches.
Your comment here is seriously making me rethink ever partaking in political discussion, let me just wrap my head around this for a second;
So you think this guy deserved to kill himself or die because of some of his political beliefs? How are you better than they are exactly? Look at me, no tolerism bullshit or anything like that when I say this.
Nobody deserves to die because of social issues or image.
See, every time that objection pops up, it’s always wrapped up into “just because of political beliefs” or “a difference of opinion” like the core of the problem is a disagreement over spending a city’s budget on a new bridge vs a new rail station; or whether or not pineapple belongs on pizza.
This guy’s “political beliefs” is that life should be hell for a long list of out-groups. Working toward that goal makes him evil, and being evil means he should be removed from power by whatever means available. In this case, he did us all a favor by eating a bullet. Ideally he would have taken all this as a point of self reflection, realized the hypocrisy of his dilemma, and abandoned the evil shit to go on to advance policy that actually made his community a better place. Instead he decided to abandon his life. And in doing so, this world became a little less evil, which is a win for the rest of us.
Personally I’m over the sentiment that no one deserves to die. It keeps villains in power, which feeds into the suffering and deaths of everyone else. When one of those assholes decides to commit suicide for whatever reason, or fatally runs their car into a tree, or gets hit by a well-placed meteor, etc: the loss of evil is worth celebrating.
The blog reported that Copeland, a Republican, confirmed that the accounts were run by him, saying they were a “hobby” he used for “getting rid of stress.” 1819 News reported that Copeland asked them to not out him, but they did so anyway, even though it does not appear he had taken any public positions against LGBTQ issues that could be construed as hypocritical.
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'Ol Bubba knew the wolves would turn on him.
But anyway, what is with this. Is it that this secretive cross-dressing thing seems correlated with repressed sexual desires or what?
JCS covered that one Canadian colonel serial killer who would cross-dress, sneaking into women’s homes.
Then I just watched this 48 Hours case about a dad who killed his son after they found pictures of him cross-dressing and literally eating his own shit.
Wtf?
Alright, not gonna lie that last one threw me for a loop.
Pretty sure it was the last part that caused him to do that, I think the gap between crossdressing and scatophagy (is that a word yet?) is pretty far.
People tend to sexualize the taboo. In a society where gender is seen as set in stone and comes with a bunch of stupid bullshit like what clothes it’s socially acceptable to wear some people will sexualize violating the taboos
Hate is a strong emotion. Hatefucking is a real thing. I’m sure Pornhub has data showing an increase of searches for Middle Eastern people after 9/11.
You’d think some empathy would be in order. However, judging from the comments made on the bird website, many people are actually proud of this happening.
Yeah I want a world where nobody is persecuted for this, even pieces of shit.
Problem solved.
Sad. But maybe now he’ll have peace.
You don’t have anything when you’re dead.
There’s a time and a place, and this ain’t the time or the place
Guilt is powerful
