• @[email protected]
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    322 years ago

    Only thing I use Start button for is to turn off the PC. The search is unusable and all shortcuts are in my task bar anyways.

  • @[email protected]
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    252 years ago

    Meanwhile in the category of “useless bullshit nobody asked for” we have Microsoft. Again.

  • 21Cabbage
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    32 years ago

    This whole “the customers want what we tell them to” attitude has really taken off, hasn’t it?

  • @[email protected]
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    4622 years ago

    I’ve often wondered what new and innovative ways Microsoft could find to make my computer even less likely to do what I want.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Yep, the reason Macs are more usable is not that they are usable in general, it’s that they can’t keep the pace with Windows.

      • Metal Zealot
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        Bro, remember when VR was all the rage? EVERYTHING was pushing VR, so much so Facebook Meta went all in on it.

        Now it’s a fucking novelty at best.

        • @[email protected]
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          82 years ago

          Remeber when 3D was all the rage? 3D monitors 3D tvs, every fucking movie was in 3D. And…now it’s a novelty at best.

            • @[email protected]
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              32 years ago

              Right? I mean… movies are too expensive to see in theaters now… but I would too if I had the money.

        • @[email protected]
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          392 years ago

          I think VR and all these AI assistants are similarly in that they’re in their infancy stages and there’s gonna be a ton of growing pains before they’re useful enough to be common, but someday they will have their place

          That’s my thoughts on the matter at least

          • Metal Zealot
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            192 years ago

            VR has been explored though, from Google Cardboard to the PSV2 to animating/painting… All of them failing to gain traction or be widely adopted.

            It either needs to jump through a lot more hurdles to be more accessible and useful, or it’s just gonna be another cool experiment in time like Etch-A-Sketch

            • @[email protected]
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              212 years ago

              VR has been explored though, from Google Cardboard to the PSV2 to animating/painting… All of them failing to gain traction or be widely adopted.

              That’s only because the cost for a good experience is still out of the realm for most people to justify to even try. Until we are looking at $150 or so for a good experience that doesn’t give people headaches or motion sickness issues it will never take off.

              The cheap VR systems still give plenty of people issues, and the expensive ones are out of the reach of a normal person living their life day to day.

              And for businesses, VR simply has not proven to have a cost benefit worth even the initial capital investment, without even taking into account ongoing IT costs due to damaged equipment.

              • @[email protected]
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                62 years ago

                I’m one of the people who gets nauseated from 3D goggles. I’ve got a friend who got all the latest stuff, had sensors on the wall, all that and within a minute or so I wanted to puke.

                I’m never going to use a vr headset. Not sure what percentage of people are in my boat, but I think that’s a pretty significant barrier to adoption

                • @[email protected]
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                  32 years ago

                  I wouldn’t say never.

                  The current headsets can make you sick in a variety of ways but since the start of VR, the sick factor has been reduced by roughly half every 5 years or every generation I’ve tried it.

                  It’s through a combination of higher refresh rates, better tracking, sickness reducers such as limited FOV when moving, or various locomotion techniques for the player.

                  The largest nausea inducer is giving people a joystick for moving around. But otherwise a 90+hz refresh rate and large FOV solve most issues.

                  Also, frankly, it takes some getting used to. But once your brain knows what to expect, the sickness goes away pretty quick.

                  Also I don’t necessarily expect entertainment or games to be the big thing. Many businesses use it for short periods to showcase designs. And VR is walking right now while AR is running.

              • Takatakatakatakatak
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                That’s certainly a factor, but I think it has far more to do with availability of content.

                I can afford to buy a proper VR setup but I do not see it as a worthwhile investment because practically none of the content available is of interest to me.

                It’s the equivalent of dropping 2K+ to play mobile games.

                Until AAA studios are actively developing for this hardware, I’m not interested…but they won’t because barely anyone has the hardware. It’s a real chicken and egg scenario.

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                52 years ago

                And for businesses, VR simply has not proven to have a cost benefit worth even the initial capital investment, without even taking into account ongoing IT costs due to damaged equipment.

                That’s just not true. Companies of all sizes are using VR for onboarding and training with much success and a huge return on investment. There are also a lot of location-based and VR arcades making a nice profit.

                VR may never go mainstream, but for businesses there are a lot of use cases for which it is valuable.

                • @[email protected]
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                  62 years ago

                  What are some companies/industries using it for onboarding/training and how are they applying it? Haven’t heard about this.

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                  22 years ago

                  Maybe if you’re in the military or space industry, otherwise I can’t see any practical use in commercial business.

                  No one wanted to wear them even for meetings while they were isolated, and that requires the bare minimum of effort

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              It’s still to expensive and cumbersome for most people I think. That’s certainly my perception.

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                And all the “entry level” headsets really lack the hardware to make it an actual viable VR experience.

                You’re essentially just moving around a camera with a gyroscope in it, unable to interact with anything.

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        192 years ago

        It’s very obvious that they rushed Copilot. What should have been an assistant like Jarvis in Iron Man, has literally no purpose and can’t do anything useful.

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          It’s MS, that’s why it was rushed. Features make boss happy, bugfixes make boss angy (he has more work). No wonder that huge features get capped at 50% in such a culture.

        • lemmyvore
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          252 years ago

          an assistant like Jarvis in Iron Man

          We should bring back Clippy! –Microsoft exec

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      I started on Win8 and have never stopped. Currently using Startallback on windows 11 for my wife. It works so much better.

    • The Barto
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      22 years ago

      Stardock? I’ve been installing stardock on every windows computer since xp, I’m on Linux now, but if I ever end up back on windows, it will be back.

  • @[email protected]
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    152 years ago

    Can someone just start making community updates for windows 7 and we can just use that when Unix is not a viable option

  • Aniki 🌱🌿
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    32 years ago

    Is this trolling?

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  • @[email protected]
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    82 years ago

    All I care about with the start button is the search function. If this didn’t fuck with that, sure.

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      Hell maybe the search function will actually be working as intended. Don’t show me shit from the websearch before you make sure there’s no software with that name on the system!

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        Oh that is so annoying, trying to open something and you bing search it.

        Also the search having to load is a balls, it used not do that on Windows 7.

      • @[email protected]
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        102 years ago

        I disabled that realy quickly… If I wanted to search the Web I would use a browser. I can only recomment that, it speeds up search a lot and it now actualy works as one would expect