uuu time for one of my fav sentences lul
The worst thing the Bolsheviks did was give Ayn Raynd an education
btw here is a step by step guide to Ayn Raynd’s life:
1: be born into obscene wealth
2: be 12, a civil war breaks out, flee to white-controlled crimea
3: the reds win, nationalise the fathers pharmacy
3.5: the reds win, without that she would have never seen a university from the inside
4: be 16 and among the first women to go to university
7: fuck off to the US to whine and cry
8: write incoherent, economically completely unfeasible, idealist defense of a hypothetical capitalism
9: profit
(this is shamelessly copied from a Reddit comment)
the lack of 5 and 6 is pretty damn funny
Sheeple, how dare you regurgitate other people’s opinions smhhh. /s No idea bout what she wrote about ngl, I’ll check out a quick summary tho
Missed a step between 7 and 8. Become an amphetamine addict and marry wealth.
The incoherent writing and paranoia make more sense.
mbmb, didn’t pay enough attention in Bioshock
Today I learned that plasmids are an allegory for meth. That makes way more sense in hindsight, just kinda assumed it was drugs in general.
the more you know, lol
Okay ignoring his ideas the Stirner head has some great independent meme material.
It was always some kind of a meme. Engels used to scribble a lot.
Didn’t realize it was a sketch by Engles, its pretty good even has its own style.
I have heard so much about Ayn Rand that I decided to see what all the buzz was about and listened to Atlas Shrugged during my commute. That shit was the most insufferable, unrealistic, out-of-touch BS I’ve ever “read.” She really thought a lot of herself. It was a horrible exercise in self-flagellation.
The fountainhead really got me amped about architecture!
both author’s books need to be in the trashcan
Nah Stirner was based.
LOL! Hell no, he wasn’t. His ideas were simple, stupid and had not really a connection to the reality. It works maybe on a personal level, but mostly in your mind. If you have a connection with economics and the materialistic world, nah - it doesn’t. I think the funniest part is that nobody would remember him, if Engels didn’t make a lot of jokes about him. Even the only existing portrait of him is from Engels making fun of him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_German_Ideology
Ideas about personal connections and your mind are also incredibly important.
If you don’t understand how humans work, then you won’t be able to create an ideology that works. Economics aren’t everything.
Sure, a lot of his works weren’t particularly good, but he tried to encompass a psychological component into his works, which hadn’t been done previously. His assertions were almost all wrong, but the fact that he tried had massive impacts on socialism as a whole.
In that sense I see him fulfilling a similar role to Freud: He wasn’t correct, but his ideas opened up a new direction, which lead the broader field to actually think about and look into that stuff. Writing against Stirner made Marxism encompass some important aspects, like the historical materialism itself, that might not have existed had Stirner not existed.
Stirner was a pioneer, but also mostly wrong. He was important for the development of socialism and for his time, but is now almost useless.
There are less people remembering Engels than Stirner…
In what world? Outside of the shitposting of some political internet bubbles Stirner is practically unheard of, while Engels is a cornerstone of scientific socialism and materialist philosophy in general
a cornerstone of scientific socialism and materialist philosophy in general
Reads like the rusty letters of a long transformed institution of ‘state socialism’. Egoism doesn’t give a shit about Stirner.
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Who’s the second author?
Max Stirner. Some kind of weird egoistic anarchist. Friedrich Engels liked him a lot in his early years. If I am right Karl Marx wrote a lot about him, but mostly how stupid his ideas were.
Just finished Stirner’s book, it’s interesting. (although I do not agree with even half of the things he says)
Marx and Engels wrote about him in “The German Ideology”, criticizing him harshly, but the book was only published after their death.
Yeah, I looked it up and gave a link to wikipedia here, already. I was not sure, cause the last time I read something about him was like 10 years, ago. You have to read the exchange between Marx and Engels, you’ll find more there. It’s obvious that nobody would remember Stirner, if Marx & Engels hadn’t critized his ideas.
The edition I read has a commentary at the end that talks about various people’s opinions of the book in the years following its publication, and quotes some passages from Marx and Engels’ letters.
It’s amazing how few people have maintained a positive opinion about him/his work for more than a few years
To be fair 2/3rds of any given Marx book is him dunking on other people’s ideas.
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True, though Marx does it in a very direct way. Often just naming them and saying that in contrast, they were stupid. Many times.
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and that’s totally fine
There is always room for Ayn rand in the trash. It’s entirely worthy of its own pile.
Kindling would be more useful. Keep it in an emergency pack in case you wind up homeless.
I dont know. The ambient stupidity of Ayn Rand might lead you to homelessness. It certainly led her there.
It’s not worth the risk. Best to have it piled among the primordial shit it came from.
