Ohio is not an expensive place to move to comparatively, not yet anyway. I think this gives a lot of hope and options to people living around Ohio to move there for the safety and the grass. These two laws together, despite the GOPs best efforts, make Ohio an attractive option and the states gonna see growth as people and buisness take advantage of that.
The amount of people that move simply for abortion laws is miniscule. It’s such a small part of the lives of even the people that opt for abortions, that it is of little consideration.
Marijuana on the other hand, might actually have an effect on the population because drugs are a major part of a lot of peoples lives.
Yes having your privacy and autonomy taken away, such a small part of a person’s life. Insignificant!
What are laws if not violations of autonomy and privacy?
Intelligent people actually recognise that this is not a useful distinction between prohibiting abortion and any other action.
So why can’t you?
drugs are a major part of a lot of peoples lives
marijuana is and has always been effectively legal. think of how many people you know that smoke every day. how many of them have actually been busted? the laws against marijuana were never about stopping people from smoking marijuana. they’re about making something tons of people do illegal so that they can:
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investigate, harass and disrupt inconvenient people whenever they want to for suspicion of doing something the majority of people do
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tack on additional charges and jailtime in order to funnel more profits to private prisons and the major orgs that contract out prison slave labor
“Marijuana is and has already been effectively legal”
Absolutely. The war on drugs failed, not because of abuses of police or that it’s impossible to ban products. But because Americans love drugs and has always culturally permitted it’s use. The reason why countries like Singapore don’t have drug problems is cultural suppression, in addition to draconian laws.
The rest of your comment is irrelevant conspiracism. Prison labor and private facilities comprise zilch to the US economy (billions sounds large until you realize that the US economy is on the order of 20 trillion), infact many people are released specifically because it is cheaper.
Marijuana use additionally increased with cultural acceptance, it wasn’t illegalised when it would actually have been an effective way to hassle innocents.
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Thank you, voters of Ohio, from a woman in Texas!!!
Recreational weed was on the same ballot and both passed. Ohio actually managed to do two things right, which is a pleasant change of pace.
go to conservative spaces now and watch them try to walk “ABORTION IS MURDER, LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION” back to “well from the beginning our goal was only ever to return sovereignty to the states.”
they stand for nothing, and they’re getting what they deserve but not nearly enough of it
What’s going on in Ohio lately? Did everyone stop taking their crazy pills?
The universe isn’t this nice. I’m waiting for the bad news.
Off Lemmy I’ve already been assured by several dickhead accelerationists that this is actually bad, because it’s against the rules to successfully progress a liberal democracy when the One Right Way to effect change is revolution only. They’d rather people suffer more if it meant an end to capitalism, revolting “ends justify the means” mentality.
Idk seems like referendums work so we don’t need all that other stuff.
They’re certainly not bulletproof. It’s obviously been a hot sec at this point, but Proposition 8 in California of all places codified marriage as exclusively being between a man and a woman when it was legalized by the California Supreme Court.
Continuing in California, Proposition 13, which froze property taxes so long as ownership is maintained but allows that frozen rate to be transferred to family, has essentially created a situation where the state is subsidizing homeowners that are already substantially wealthier than the average person while also legally enshrining a class of people who pay much less tax by virtue of inheritable status. The perverse economic effects are rather obvious.
Referendums can be great, but voters are also generally going to be inherently selfish. Local control of zoning and housing policy, just to shit on California one more time, has resulted in a massive housing crisis. There are situations where it’s really important for lawmakers to choose the path that inconveniences everyone a little bit but solves a problem over the path where no individual is directly inconvenienced while the root problem only gets much worse. In Game Theory terms, referendums are very bad at handling prisoner’s dilemma style situations, since voters will generally pursue their own immediate interests.
Yes… let the incrementalism flow through you.
Those people have such a lust for violence and don’t care that the poor people they claim to be fighting for will be the ones who suffer most
“Why won’t you die so I can avenge you‽”
But when I think about it, those poor people are absolutely fucked right now. By achieving small victories like these they get nothing. We have luxurious lifestyles, while the poorest don’t even eat.
Fuck capitalism. House and feed everyone first, then play pretend with numbers.
The weed issue also passed but the legislature may just ignore the will of the people. I don’t think they can do anything about this though.
nope, as soon as it ‘officially’ passes (how many recounts you think? would you place wagers on an over-under of five?) it’s part of the Ohio constitution. they’d have to run a second ammendment through to vacate it. and that won’t happen.
Second amendment you say? HELL YEAH! brandishes AR-15
Hell Yes. To quote Jay " …me and Bob are pro choice. A woman’s body is her own fucking business!"
Glad people saw through the lies opponents were spewing. Ohio hasn’t had many blue victories, but I’m glad this was one.
Plus, recreational marijuana is passing as well. Sadly, that’s a statute and not amendment, so the dickheads in the legislature will probably fuck with it.
Can’t even take away reproductive rights in ohio 💀
Great news!
FUCK! YES! FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS!! Holy cow, that was a desert, waiting.
