did i say mildly i meant want to nuke it from orbit
That’s definitely a new one in the AI v. Captcha arms race, and it’s only going to get worse from here. Build a better sword, need a better shield.
Yahtzee!
Wait… am I misunderstanding this or are they asking you to just sit there and roll dice till you get all ones on 5 D6’s?
so there’s the number on the left and then on the right you have to use the arrows to scroll through until you find the picture with the dice that add up to the number on the left so you basically have to do maths like 10 times in a row there’s not a set number of dice, i think - i can’t remember but i think that one was like a 1, a 1, a 2, and a 1 or something.
Ah, okay.
So it’s just a “find the right picture” rather than “roll dice till you get a roll of five”. That’s still annoying, but a lot less insane.
It’s not less insane. Some of the puzzles will have huge double digit numbers, and they make you solve multiple puzzles to progress. Sony makes you solve 16 of these before barely moving your customer service request forward and delaying you further.
It’s “provide is with reinforcement learning data to train AI’s how to read numbers in an image.”
Remember when captchas were supposed to protect from bots, not train them? I 'member…
It’s interesting how some people just can’t communicate concisely
I don’t think the average person understands how advanced bots have become at bypassing captchas now. Users will see this and be upset, and understandably so, but I’m telling you there is a big problem right now and devs are having trouble keeping up.
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That’s nice, they should think about average people with learning disabilities and how hard it is for them to keep up.
Yeah, but, there’s probably not any way to make this easier while still stopping bots. Either they do no captcha and you can’t compete with all the non-humans using whatever service, or they do this. Pick your poison.
Who said no captcha? This is an asinine argument.
I did. Really, it’s a binary choice. Uncomfortably hard captcha, or no captcha. Ineffective captcha wastes everyone’s time.
Maybe you have an idea for one that will still be effective while being easier, but I don’t, and apparently they, the professionals, don’t either. Until such a system surfaces, this is it.
Numerical processing disorders are fairly common and it will be interesting watching devs handle class action lawsuits when they make captchas so difficult for a portion of the population that they effectively get locked out. This isn’t a difficult concept, and they can come up with something better than this. Your responses ignore the reality for disabled individuals.
and they can come up with something better than this
I bet they can’t. Soon enough they probably are just going to have to accept some users will be bots.
If that’s the reality so be it, but making existing accounts and services inaccessible to those with processing disorders will likely be even worse for them in the long run if they keep turning out these kind of captchas.
The acceleration I’m seeing now makes me think we’ve reached a terminal point. There will be no way to tell humans from bots quickly, cheaply and anonymously soon, and services will just have to adapt or die.
Google’s approach of just monitoring your behaviour in the browser is still the most humane and it pisses me off that you literally have to serve all your data to them so they can even decide to serve you with their ads.
The irony is that these puzzles, while designed to stop bot spam/fake registrations, are actually used to train AI/computer vision to be better… thus, creating the need for even more infuriating puzzles to be “solved” by humans.
And bots are already better than us at these tests. Might be better to assume if someone solves too quickly they are a bot. Sorry Mensa peeps
Or just don’t do it? I have really high security setting on my web browser that breaks most sites. If I’m being asked to do something like this I either move to the next site or just pick up the phone and call the company. There really is no reason to feed into this behavior.
Sony makes you do this before they’ll give you a phone number to call.
If you put the right terms in a search bar chances are you’ll find the right one eventually. I doubt the sony support number is a very well kept secret.
The phone? Call the company through my device that is dedicated to mostly doomscrolling? Thanks but no thanks pal!
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If a spam bot filter filters me out as well than it’s just a regular filter. For fucks sake.
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I don’t understand the apathy towards the increasing shittyness of internet services. No need for hyperbole, those captchas are getting out of hand.
They’re not designed to stop spam, they’re designed to stop legitimate customer service requests, like refunds for billing mistakes. Sony uses them.
Write a dissertation using exactly 53,285 words on the topic of sprinkler head water use efficiency patterns, discussing at length the difference between residential, commercial, and agricultural use cases. Cite at least 25 sources ordered numerically in APA.
‘OK, I guess I don’t need to comment on this article anyway.’
“Page timeout. Please try again.”
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The topics are often super niche and don’t even have 25 papers to source from
You can just watch the YouTube tutorial on how to do these
Weird - I see a lot of comments about how this is some evolution in the war of bots vs CAPTCHA, but I have come across this once, and it was many years ago. I just assumed it was a weird small captcha company that was doing their own thing
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It’s the only way to be sure.
At that point I’d just do the audio version
I have this problem too. I have Proton VPN on and try to solve a reCAPTCHA. And it makes me do the “click until there’s none left” thing, which is a pain in the ass. I do it. And then just says Please try again. So I do the audio one and apparently I’m sending automated requests. Thanks google.
These puzzles give me the real creeps—I can’t quite put my finger on it—something about the imagery makes it look like it was pulled from CSAM or something.
And how do you know what that looks like? 🤨
Notice I said “or something?” The point was that the puzzles creep me the fuck out. They always show little kids’ shit in the puzzles too which is why I went with CSAM in my casually written, hasty comment.
Fucking Lemmy. Y’all take shit so fucking seriously. God forbid someone exaggerate on the Internet.
Never in my life have I been accused of being a fucking pedophile over such a stupid fucking comment.
This place is filled with crybabies; get a fucking life.
What gives me the creeps is people like you that are apparently constantly thinking about kiddie porn.
Yeah, no. If you look through my comment history there’s zero indication I constantly think about kiddie porn.
I’d tell you simply and honestly that I rarely ever think of it, but of course that’s asking you to trust me and something tells me you’re just an asshole anyway so earning that trust isn’t really worth my time.
Bye 👋
At least yours is a low number. I had to do some with numbers like “37”. I had to solve 64 of these to talk to PlayStation billing support. It wasn’t mildly infuriating, it was enraging. They made me do 16 of them, and then just took me back to the same page as if I hadn’t solved any at all. Then I had to do 16 of them again to be told that support was offline. Then the next day I did 16 more to be told support was offline, so I tried it in chrome instead of Firefox and had to do 16 more to be given a phone number to call, which I had to hold on for 67 minutes before I could talk to someone about a refund for a mistake on my billing. That type of dark pattern “fuck you” practice should be illegal. Fuck Sony.
The part of your story where you had to eventually switch to Chrome got me, because that’s me every fucking time. These monsterous companies aren’t just using captcha wrong (or right if they’re evil), they’re also all-in on chromium supremacy because why support more than one standard? And here I am, forty captcha deep wondering if I’m about to pop a god damned hidden achievement for persistence in an impossible task.
For me, when a site forces Chrome, I just use ungoogled chromium, or sometimes vanilla Chromium
oh i had to do 10 of them there were definitely some 24s in there 😭
I personally never met this CAPTCHA, but my friend did during our phone call. It was utterly hilarious to hear him slowly going mad to the point of screaming at the computer. I was laughing my ass off. This is too dystopian to be true.
I was trying to book a trip through a travel website, after the 3rd tedious captcha I ended up using another site. I get it, the bot vs captcha war is getting crazy but if your website is unusable then i’m not going to use it.
90% of captchas are just being used to train AI anyways.
Source: I don’t need a source I have this tinfoil hat
Yup. This has been their use since the ‘type these two words’ capchas which were used to train for OCR.
Tinfoil hat is a reputable source.
If memory serves the people behind this CAPTCHA are Palo Alto Networks.
Apparently they are the leader in cyber security and use AI everywhere.
So no wonder why these CAPTCHAs are so difficult, they’re probably training AIs.
What type of dice has a mix of pips and numerals?
I assume it’s generated or photoshopped. A proper D6 has opposing sides that sum to 7. Thus you should never be able to see 3 and 4 or 1 and 6 at the same time.
AI generated type
