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The Linux distribution
Come on guys
The Linux distributions?
My first foray into Linux was Pop OS since I read it was a good beginner distro… eventually I got frustrated with the amount of programs I tried to install that were way out of date if installed through Ubuntu… having to add repositories was annoying and they weren’t even the latest versions. I then switched to EndeavourOS and I’ve been happy! I know arch isn’t considered a “beginner” distro, but I’ve found it quite stable.
I started out with Elementary, then went the typical “I use Arch BTW” route (and for a time, Gentoo), and right now I’m happy and content with Fedora’s simplicity
Fedora go brrr indeed. Fedora go brrr.
My path is similar to yours except went from Ubuntu to Arch. Haven’t felt the need to look for other distro since I moved to Fedora (GNOME)
I use EndeavourOS btw
Why not vanilla Arch?
I tried vanilla Arch once as a VM and got stuck.
I might try it again one day. For now, EndeavourOS is a good middle ground between Arch itself and Manjaro.
I tried a couple of times too before I could install vanilla Arch on a VM. Eventually I got it working, but I do think that projects like EndeavourOS is good step towards easing yourself into Arch, if that’s what you want. Maybe I just don’t use my computers that much and don’t need to edit config files and what not, but nowadays, Linux distributions matter less and less, especially since I’m a casual desktop user. I’ll just use Flatpak for all supported applications and use the distribution’s package manager. Basically, just use informant (or add to hook), pacman -Syu (or -Syyu in some cases), and flatpak update. Other than that, there’s nothing really that different from using other Linux distributions, with the exception of the problems of drivers or something like that. The way I interact with a computer to use basic desktop applications don’t fundamentally change with what Linux distribution I use, since I’m a casual (with a minor interest in *-nix stuff).
I’m mostly addressing normal users (with the exception of gamers probably), who just use a couple of desktop applications like Firefox or VLC or document software or whatever. That’s pretty much going to be the same across all distributions.
Is it just me, or are the more active posters here actually Windows refugees who haven’t used Linux for too long?
Isn’t that how most of us got started with Linux?
Ack, my deleted comment is visible somehow!
…Anyway, I agree. I wasn’t saying it’s necessarily bad, just that there seemed to be an influx of new posts that sound like they came from Linux virgins.
Fedora ist the best of two worlds.
Cries in rocky linux
Agreed, though users need to set up RPM Fusion and maybe configure DNF a little bit. It’s still pretty great though.
What and what? Sorry I’ve only been using Fedora for years
RPM Fusion is for non-official repos and proprietary media codecs, I believe? Not sure since I only touched Fedora for alittle bit.
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OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Seems to be an underrated choice. How’s it going so far, using Tumbleweed?
I never managed to break it. While all the *buntu distros tended to just fall apart after a while.
Also you can update after 3 months and zypper will happily process the 6800 changed packages.
Finally it has the best KDE out there, so it was a natural choice.
Sounds great! Tumbleweed has always sounded like a stable rolling-release distro, kind of strange that it never got the attention like Arch or Arch-based distros.
The whole OpenSuSE/SuSE community seems to be on the quiet side for some reason. I never really understood why either. It’s one of the old traditional distributions that’s doing a lot of stuff in the background, but nobody ever hears or talks about it. They even have fun songs.
Maybe it’s because it’s based in Europe (although I would have seen that as a bonus point)?
I don’t even know if it’s very common in the enterprise world, I’ve never actually even seen it there, although I’ve seen lots of Redhat. But according to Wikipedia, it’s out there.
I’ve only meddled with openSUSE a little bit but I suspect it’s due to several reasons. Firstly, perhaps the lack of marketing. You hear news about Ubuntu and Fedora and NixOS and stuff, but never really about openSUSE, I think? Maybe they do promotions but I don’t know about them that much. As you said, they do a lot of stuff but in the background. Perhaps they’re really more of a technical distribution, for sysadmins and some users?
They often tend to sell it as a distribution for developers. for some reason. I don’t write much code any more and just use it (tumbleweed) as my main system for general use. I never really noticed it being any different from any other operating system. You just install whatever you need. In my case, I take notes, edit photos, play games from Steam, and do the usual Internet stuff. Mostly what most users do.
I tried this once, it had some weird default settings when it came to privileges needed to connect to WiFi, printers etc. Normally polkit would be preconfigured on a desktop to let the user do these things without giving the root password but not opensuse for some reason! Maybe things have changed now.
Hopefully! Certain things like WiFi or printers, I feel should work out-of-the-box without manual setup.
I used Fedora as my main for over a decade, but now I question the future of Fedora with all the crap IBM is pulling.
Time to go to Linux Mint
I’m not a big fan of Mint or Cinnamon (or GNOME for that matter), and as someone else mentioned, Mint does not have a KDE spin. Might have to try KDE Neon.
Cinnamon doesn’t work properly across multiple monitors. Your task manager thing doesn’t stay in sync. The one that says it works with multiple monitors just… doesn’t.
Plasma hasn’t given me any issues, but Mint doesn’t have a KDE distribution. So I’ve been on KDE Neon.
Let’s go, Plasma vs GNOME vs Cinammon
Plasma best for customisation and/or new Windows users.
GNOME best for macOS migration and/or great out of the box experience.
Cinnamon best when you hate fun and/or yourself.
Sauce: Mint Cinnamon was my first ever distro but I still hate it.
How about XFCE and LXQt?
LXQt is something I would only use on ANCIENT hardware. I mean hardware from a while before 2011. It’s hideous and barely gets updates.
XFCE is a weirder one. It’s very customisable but also doesn’t get updated much. In my experience it provides barely any performance advantages over KDE although it is smoother than GNOME on crap hardware, so there’s that.
I don’t need either and wouldn’t use them unless I did.
I don’t even use Mint anymore, but Cinnamon is still my favorite DE by far. I guess that means I hate fun? Why can’t you just say you dislike a thing without insulting everyone who does?
I’m being tongue-in-cheek. I personally find Mint boring and dated, and it can be pretty buggy on newer or more complex setups. I don’t actually think that you “hate fun”, it’s my hyperbolic way of saying that Cinnamon isn’t fun to use for me.
Sometimes being literal makes things less fun, too.
Hah, I like macOS but can’t stand current GNOME.
However, I agree with you about Cinnamon. It feels like someone tried to copy Windows using a desktop environment that wasn’t designed to work that way.
I prefer KDE Plasma or MATE (since I did like GNOME 2)
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Yeah, I feel that too. I have wanted to try a immutable distro, is nix any good? Are there any better alternatives?
More like mint
I tried a bunch of distros, but always came back crawling to arch cause of the package manager
Would be true if canonical didn’t screw up so much lately. Fedora is the go to for many now
Why not any other Debian based
Debian based? So just Debian then
Yea also, or Mint (debian version) or something else
PopOS good Ubuntu bad
For now. Let’s wait a while and see if system76 fucks it up.
Debian IS based 😉
… on Debian.
That was what I was going for
all roads lead to ubuntu
I am and always will be the left Ubuntu user
This is the final form of the Linux user. Returning to a popular stable distro.
brrrrrrrr
This sort of stuff always makes me wonder…WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ALL USING YOUR OS FOR?. All I want my OS to do is hold my files, execute my programs and stay the hell out of my way. What could people possibly be doing with their OS that makes version and distro wars worth more than two seconds of your life? Its like arguing about which calculator or plain text editor is best. I dont care. It adds the numbers, it changes the letters, as long as it isnt doing anything else: who cares.
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That can be nice, but if I actually care about new features in a program Im compiling the RC manually. Otherwise its just more frequent 50GB downloads for some imperceptible incremental change to CUPS and Libre Office.
but if I actually care about new features in a program Im compiling the RC manually
That’s actually one of the reasons I switched and settled on arch. Not only do you get latest upstream binary versions, but building stuff is easier without the need to hunt down all dev package versions and a lot of packages have their git versions in AUR. Pull in all latest commits, build and install with just a single command!
Otherwise its just more frequent 50GB downloads for some imperceptible incremental change to CUPS and Libre Office.
Well I have no idea what kind of Libreoffice you’ve been installing lmao. I likely spend more bandwidth looking at memes and shitposts and youtube per day than a single weekly update.
Uh… software development? Other work stuff?
Once you have lived through library dependency hell, you care
How often does that happen to you? Im almost 20 years on Linux full time and it hasnt to me once. I had a wifi driver go out after an update once and Nvida drivers twice. Ive had to roll back a kernal upgrade exactly one time. Those are the only problems and each one took like ten minutes to troubleshoot and fix.
Same thing as people arguing about their golf clubs, pointless yes, but distracting…
Most people in the distro wars know it’s pointless and that a tool is a tool, but measuring dicks is as old as humanity and when flipping your dong out wasn’t deemed appropriate anymore, people started arguing about distros
It’s pretty memed on at this point (arch users, gentoo users, NixOS et. al) but I’d make the point - truly without being pedantic - sometimes you just want stuff the way you want them. Should everybody deal with portage on a daily basis? God no. Is it a viable option for folks to keep their build in check and know exactly what’s going on down to their flags/libs? Absolutely. Same reasons with why some folks jive with the AUR.
It’s all about finding use case, just like any piece of tech. Yes there’s dick measuring and all else that comes with that, but there’s a good amount of merit to “I like how this distro revolves around x, it makes sense to me so it’s easier for me to maintain”. If those are some of the things that get Linux on the daily driver aspect, I’m all with it.
Yeah, if you tend to use your servers for pretty vanilla uses you may not have encountered it much. Once you get into the deep end, it gets deep quick.
And that’s why I’ve been running Ubuntu on my main machines since 2004.
I just wanted something reliable for gaming that didn’t come with a ton of bloat. I settled on EndeavourOS.
The less important something is, the more people will argue over it.
See: high school elections, car brands, toilet paper orientation
as long as it isnt doing anything else: who cares.
That’s a big part of the distro discussion. Ubuntu for example forces snaps down your throat if you don’t pay attention, which usually leads to issues down the line.
Some people are more extreme in that regard and want their system to do absolutely nothing they haven’t explicitly configured. And there’s a distro for everyone.
Its like arguing about which calculator or plain text editor is best.
it’s obviously emacs
I only use Red Star OS on my machines.
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Excellent choice.
I read “Debian is for servers.”. WTF?
