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Barack Obama: “For elevator music, AI is going to work fine. Music like Bob Dylan or Stevie Wonder, that’s different”::Barack Obama has weighed in on AI’s impact on music creation in a new interview, saying, “For elevator music, AI is going to work fine”.
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Do people actually care what Obama has to say about AI? I’m just having a hard time seeing where his skillset overlaps with this topic.
I’m just a dude who does general labor and have lots of insights about AI just because I’m interested and smart. People tend to come to me just to hear what I have to say.
Now look at Obama. He’s all of that and much more in the eyes of a society that’s put Obama in the spotlight. He can talk about totally boring stuff and people will still respect his opinion.
For a second or two I was like: " why the f*** is Obama talking about Weird Al making elevator music?"
Obama must not have heard There I Ruined It.
While I agree, it’s also the case that those …Creations… are extremely human directed. As far as I know the maker is not only training the models for the voices, but also specifying each output word, and then its timing and pitch(s)
And of course placing the siren whistle.
AI is new and already performing in office to a second year law student level.
That’s what I got from this.
Also the Secret Invasion intro looked really cool and I hate it but it did. When it comes to depth and meaning it may be a while yet before AI can simulate or bullshit it’s way through that but for now it can definitely create interesting and noteworthy pieces.
What is notable that there is a unique culture of making human covers of popular AI based songs. Especially in the vocaloid scene. Same with auto tune and similar tools.
AI isn’t going to take the jobs of musicians. It’ll just give them more material to work with because people will always seem out “authentic” versions of things they like.
Already likely to be untrue, but honestly I’d happily sign up for a world wear “hold music” isn’t the same 20sec loop of shit jazz
The Opus hold track slaps though
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Jesus this is terrible. The accuracy is incredible!
(/s, I ain’t fighting fans of the good lord Bob)
“You don’t get it. This song is very deep!”
This thread is as much evidence of our failed educational system as is the entire state of Mississippi
Yeah fuck Mississippi all my homies hate Mississippi
Wow, coming outta nowhere to sideswipe Mississippi for no apparent reason, great work you’re doing here.
And now human music.
Elevator music as well as the mainstream music that majority of people listen to like pop etc.
That music is already very formulaic and almost as if it is generated by Ai.
Can’t imagine good art coming from something that’s incapable of giving a shit about things.
What is good art? Stuff like this can be produced with zero effort in a couple of seconds. ChatGPT wrote the prompt. And to my eye at least that looks “good enough”, it’s not like I frequently see human art that looks better. If we get AI that can write elevator music at that level, I’d probably be fine with that too.
For art to be good it needs to leave an impression on people. Can’t imagine anyone taking anything away from Generic Pretty Girl #372
Most stuff looks pretty generic, you’re right. But there’s actually been a couple times when I’ve been baffled by the output. For this one, for example, I just gave it my username
That takes a steaming hot dump on what the vast majority of people can do.
It’s why people are scared. They should be.
HAHA that’s crazy you think that that is so great.
I was like this in the 90s with MDs.
You probably think AI porn is “stunning” 🤣
‘So great’ would be inaccurate.
I said it “takes a steaming hot dump on what the vast majority of people can do.”
Tell me you feel called out without telling me you feel called out. Lol.
Why would I feel called out by a pattern I’ve seen a few times before and the generation before me saw even more than that?
You’re like the dude in the other 20s, “you fools! Look to the sky! The dirigible has conquered the realm once enjoyed freely only by the birds and angels! I’ll take a streaming hot DUMP on you from here! One golden ticket onto the glorious Hindenburg!”
Flies are just consequences of shit; I don’t feel much of anything about flies I figure 🤷♂️
That takes a steaming hot dump on what the vast majority of people can do.
I’d argue that it is a steaming hot dump of random, deviant art quality junk, but to each their own.
I’d argue people like you are going to hold it under much more scrutiny knowing it’s made by AI instead of humans.
I’d also argue you will do this without admitting it.
This thread is the gift that keeps in giving 🤣
Nah I barely looked at it, and wouldn’t care who made it because it looks like tarot card garbage.
I think magicians love when audiences are willing to both believe in magic and maintain a respect for the secrecy of their trade.
I’ll tell you what I know for sure: people from my generation are working like their lives depend on it to separate the new generations from their money using our triumphant new invention; so of course this looks like impressive art to younger people and no one else; you’ll love the AI music we sell you too! And wait till you meet all the AI characters we’ve trained for you! You can sit, jaw dropped stifling laughter to hear the next joke designed to make you cackle so hard you piss yourself, in a room full of tailored friends.
There are still tons of real things in this world: they still inspire more fruitful wonder than we do for ourselves and our contraptions.
so of course this looks like impressive art to younger people and no one else;
So what exactly do you consider “impressive art”?
you’ll love the AI music we sell you too!
The money argument is frankly a bit pointless at the moment, since nobody has figured out how to make money with AI art. Any new AI tool is replicated by another company within months. The AI art itself is essentially worthless, since everybody can just generate it by themselves for free. A lot of the tools are also Open Source and can run on your own PC locally.
Maybe one day we’ll have some AI-TikTok with an endless stream of user-targeted AI content and ads in between, but that doesn’t exist yet. For the time being, AI is just costing companies money.
For art to be good it needs to leave an impression on people.
It’s leaving an impression on me. What do you consider good art?
Can’t imagine anyone taking anything away from Generic Pretty Girl #372
Well, you can have it with robots, cows and horses too. That’s the fun of it, it’s endlessly remixable.
I don’t think you’re going to remember that particular image in a week.
The same can be said about any random piece of human created art.
That’s just due to the lack of repetition, not due to a lack in the art. If I print it out and hang it on the wall, I am sure remembering it. In the digital realm it’s just one image out of hundreds. That’s the fun with AI art, the act of creation and consumption blur together. The individual image is little more than a starting point for further creation.
It’s an infinite crap generator, which I can see why people are so enamored with it. Because people seem to want a seeming variety of generic junk almost instinctually. Just take a look at the variety of garbage available on all streaming platforms right now, the variety of garbage on YouTube, or even worse a single aisle in any grocery store: shelves full of crap that’s often the same thing with different labels, substances that are utter shit on almost a molecular level but seem appealing or better than others based upon packaging.
Edit: Amazon is nearly a perfection of the instant, endless crap business model. Just imagine when someone hooks up one of these things to a 3d printer. You can then have infinite crap generated entirely based upon your search queries. Now if you’ll excuse me I have a patent application to file…
It’s not even infinite
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-world-is-running-out-of-data-to-feed-ai-experts-warn
Just take a look at the variety of garbage available on all streaming platforms right now
Yeah, and that was created by humans. Guess why I like AI art? It can produce way more interesting stuff than that. The bar for “human art” is pretty f’n low. What do you consider “good art”?
I think your generation’s the first to be totally pink for this sort of thing and I’m worried for ya
I’m gutted that you can’t tell the difference. Or that you don’t care to. It’s sad you think this toy is an idol.
I’m gutted that you can’t tell the difference.
Then fucking enlightenment. Everybody keeps talking “AI art bad” yet nobody keeps showing what good art is supposed to be.
What is good art? Stuff like this can be produced with zero effort in a couple of seconds.
Lol, not that.
🤣
Could you please answer the question: What is good art?
Sure, I am after all the sole arbiter of what good art is. /s
I’ll answer like a supreme court justice: I know it when I see it.
Examples are welcome.
I thought some of the early banksy stuff was pretty good.
I’m sure AI can generate an original one of those that’s as evocative because it deeply understands the human experience, has the ability to spray paint on public walls, is aware of trends and culture, and is similarly concerned about the rise of modern fascism and surveillance states.
Ain’t perfect, but close enough for now: https://imgur.com/a/mHHeJyn
Is muzak your idea of good art?
Young tech can’t tell real from simulacrum
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It’s more or less only (that is mainly) useful for building components that you then use in your man-made tracks. It’s a tool, just like AI image generators are tools albeit there the replacement use-case is substantial. AI-generated voice also needs to be considered in this context I think.
Yeah generative music has been a thing for a long time, Brian Eno is probably the household name recognizable for generative compositions, but most sequencers have had randomization elements built in for a long time now. I use one where you feed it a scale of notes and can define the chance a certain note will play and chances around the quality of the note like duration, velocity, etc. Even my entry level MicroFreak has a randomization option which you can use to get musical ideas from. There’s some cool eurorack modules like Mutable Instruments Grids which function like this for drum sequencing, where you have this axis to explore and can control via an lfo if you want.
I realize generative and AI are a technically different, I think AI is much better at “can you create a synth preset to make x sound” or “write a specific genre of melody/chord progression/etc.” It’s a lot better at factoring in the broader context.
RIP Kenny G
He’s survived many mockeries over the years haha
I thought he died for a moment
Is the joke that he makes elevator music
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Andre 3000 is taking the wheel for him.
LMAO, what an absolutely god awful take.
Ill see you in 2 years when we have our first AI Grammy winner
Wow, a word from a global expert on AI, Barrack Obama. I hope he’s a bit better at it than he is at world peace!
Everything is always a matter of time
AI: the new boogie man.
