• @[email protected]
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    The tragedy of the commons. When a resource that’s owned by everyone and no-one is disappearing due to overuse, refraining from using it just leaves more to those who don’t refrain. The incentive is to intensify its use to get the most out of it while there’s still anything left to get. In other words there’s no hope, so we might as well enjoy what time we have left.

    • MenKlash
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      22 years ago

      In other words there’s no hope

      Privatize everything.

  • @[email protected]
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    232 years ago

    Because corporations have managed to convince people that it’s an individuals responsibility to recycle to save the planet. Big corporations get fined pennies for destroying it.

  • _haha_oh_wow_
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    512 years ago

    Because denial isn’t over because corporations who make their money off things that make climate change worse spend tons of money to manufacture disinformation and continue to mislead people just like they’ve been doing for over 50 years.

    • @[email protected]
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      Yeah. I’m in Appalachia where most everyone I went to school with believes whatever latest variation of climate-denial messaging their ridiculous right-wing media ecosystem spits out this week. Obviously a lot of money still funneled into promotion of these ideas. Watched a bunch die unnecessarily of COVID when that same messaging was telling them vaccines were more dangerous than the virus.

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    Greed.

    Until we start executing & incarcerating politicians & CEOs for ecocide, this will not stop.

  • JokeDeity
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    Because conservatives are much much louder and they don’t feel the need to have facts back up anything they say.

  • @[email protected]
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    22 years ago

    Better start with places like Indonesia. Otherwise, you’ll be the only person out of thousands recycling.

    • @[email protected]
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      182 years ago

      Better start literally everywhere. I live in Europe, so I’m starting in Europe. You start wherever you live.

        • @[email protected]
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          Yeah. Keep telling yourselves that…in all my decades, I haven’t seen any difference. Actually, its gotten worse.

          Its entertaining see everyone panic because of what’s coming. To me, its whatever.

  • @[email protected]
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    92 years ago

    Still waiting for the moment the world wakes up like the dustbowl in the 30s or the pollution in the 70s. We’re past the point where it can be denied, aren’t we? I want everyone to come together and fix it. We’ve done it before.

  • BlanketsWithSmallpox
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    I don’t think I’ve ever met a single person IRL who acts like it’s not. It’s part of everyday conversation, it’s on YouTube constantly, it’s been legislated on in one of the largest bills in American history, automobilr companies are going all electric by 2040. American dairy is carbon neutral by 2050. The first active carbon sequestering plant went online.

    Just because you feel like being a doomer and not helping through apathy based propaganda doesn’t mean other people all over aren’t doing their part.

    • @[email protected]
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      And thats where we can observe that pushing the responsibility towards the smallest customer was just greenwashing and was for nothing.

      I dont have the source at hand.

      But we have like 20-30 corperations which take most of the emissions (and other environmental damages as well).

      But since we dont have a global allieance on the political side, we dont have a chance against global coroerations.

      Sadly its an uphill battle. Or chicken egg problem, or whatever.

      lay down

      try not to cry

      cry alot

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      Those things you mentioned are either way too late and worthless or even harmful to the environment.

      We cant have this many cars and be environmentally friendly, even if they are all electric. The change we need is not the change they are selling us.

      American dairy is a tiny drop in the ocean of emitted carbon and they’ll stop… in 25 years

      Carbon capture is bullshit technology like solar roadways and there is no way in hell it will catch up to what we emit daily in the next century. Go to a coal powered plant and look at the mountain of coal that lasts them maybe a month. Now imagine sucking all this coal back out of the air in the same amount of time… congrats, you’ve just offset one rural power plant.

      There is already no way for us to save the climate we know and keep something that even remotely resembles our current way of life. We are long way away from the point where we should’ve started braking and we keep pretending that opening the windows will slow us down enough to not hit the wall.

      • scientist
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        @riodoro1 @blanketswithsmallpox @climate

        They do fabricate a lot of BS to deflect the attention away from the problem. Burning fuel!

        Reduction via energy efficiency & switching over to electricity, via wind, solar, water (wave, tidal, hydro) & thermal is right direction of travel. So yea, electric public transport, instead of private cars, generally does the same task, with far less resources (inc. power demands)

  • Avanke Ⓐ🏴
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    I believe it is essential to distinguish between “When are we gonna learn?” when talking about these points. It is not that “we didn’t learn”; we who understand or are very attentive to the ecological issues are a group of people doing something. Hence, the greens, in general, need to understand politics.

    The job of ecologism is only effective if you address root causes (there is a joke about trees over here). Exploiting non-renewable resources is not a choice made by individuals but rather a result of the societal structures that dictate our actions. Currently, those structures are hierarchical.

    So I’d like to use this occasion to invite my fellow ecologists and solarpunks to be interested in that spiky thing called “Politics.” We must address issues to push our creative minds to build the future.