Edge is required for web search
By disabling this, does it mean I’ll be able to set Firefox as the default browser to open when doing a web search from the start menu?
I’m guessing no. I don’t use windows anymore. I want to test this out myself but lack the resources to follow through.
I use MSEdgeRedirect to redirect both the search engine and the browser used by start menu searches.
You know, if you use Linux you don’t have to jump through hoops like this (trivial though they may be). Wouldn’t it be nice to not have an adversarial, abusive relationship with your OS?
Yeah, let me know when Revit, Civil 3D, ArcGIS, OpenRoads Designer are operable and supported on Linux.
Some of you sound like the annoying stereotype of vegans pushing their diet lifestyle.
That’s because like vegans, there is a moral imperative that most ignore or don’t care about, we have a genuine emotional attachment to foss, and because you are ignorant of the topic, you don’t care to listen.
What he said is harmless, true, and there is a moral imperative to say it, and ontop of that it isn’t like a diet, it’s better software that respects you, doesn’t spy on you, and for free and the only downside is a 15 minute install process (and the use of a flash drive). Why do you care enough to fight that?
Just fuck off and let me use whatever OS I want
You’re free to choose and they’re free to criticise.
Nobody has forced you to do anything, suggesting better, more respectful software is not force, why bother fighting against a more ethical alternative that respects you?
If linux was a better software, it would have a substantial desktop share. But it doesn’t since it’s the most unintuitive userhating software built by man.
Because as we all know, the free market always comes up with the correct answer and is never distorted by companies.
I’ve never seen any OS being shilled like linux, it even beats apple fanboys during its heyday. A free OS that’s constantly pushed down our throats should by all means be a consumers number 1 choice if it was good.
But I guess having to learn 5 million commands to open a folder is bad design, who knew? I have better use for my time than debug drivers and figure out dependencies when W10 sort of works all that out for me in an intuitive fashion.
mkdir directory_nameThis comment too was posted without an /s. Insane how furries think that is a normal thing to do to use your pc
If you think you need to learn commands to open a folder you didn’t use Linux for the past 20 years. Most things are done now via a graphical environment such as Plasma or GNOME. It’s the more advanced things such as managing system services that are done via a terminal. But normal user really doesn’t have to do these kind of things for normal desktop use.
But I guess having to learn 5 million commands to open a folder is bad design, who knew?
Thanks for showing that you’re not acting in good faith, bye.
You know exactly what I mean though. I just think you can’t bear to come up with a lie explaining how “sudo fifo 8 6 j u77f6j 87” is good design.
I’m all for Linux and have been using it for years, but saying a 15min install is the only downside is disingenuous. For many people there are a few programs they rely on that won’t work on Linux, and hardware support and general user-friendliness are still not quite where they should be.
In fact, installation is one of the easiest parts unless you use vanilla arch
the vast majority of hardware is supported, and as someone who works IT and gives linux to the elderly, I don’t agree at all with the user unfriendliness, provided you use mint and kde.
If your software doesn’t run that does suck, but the vast majority of usecases work perfectly with the breif explanation of “use the app store for any software you need to install.” Do you have any examples of user friendliness issues, or is it just that there are choices to make at all?
Honestly true. At the very most you have to make certain switches to some software. For elderly people these switches are pretty minor since often they aren’t needing something like industry software for their work and at most will need to switch to like… LibreOffice, OnlyOffice or something of the sort. Not hard. For people in a job that may need design software like any Adobe product, there are Plenty of alternatives that work pretty well. Main thing is just spending a few days to get used to it and learning the differences. Only big thing I’d say that would be very hard to switch to Linux is if you make Music. Because if you use FL Studio, the closest alternative is LMMS… and it sorta sucks and at times is very uncomfortable to work with. You’d probably have to switch to Ardour or Reaper which would be a pretty massive change… Overall though, those account for a small number of people.
“The vast majority” is useless if the hardware someone has doesn’t work, and you usually don’t get official support and warranty from the manufacturer for Linux. There are also some categories like webcams, audio equipment or fingerprint readers where Linux support is still notoriously bad. And even if something mostly works, it’s fairly common for some hardware to have missing features, instabilities or minor issues on Linux. E.g. my mouse works on Linux ofc, but the software to set and edit profiles doesn’t.
Usability issues are mostly cases where you have to fall back to the terminal. An example from my experience would be that trying to upgrade the system from the app store fails half the time, so I have to use the terminal. Another would be a failed boot or graphics issues due to a broken Nvidia driver installation or messed up SELinux policies. It’s all fixable in the terminal, but good luck if you can’t use that.
I would not agree that is common at all, these are edge cases and I bet your mouse works with piper.
plus soon immutable distros will fix any chance of system breakages, and it’s not like similar things don’t regularly happen on windows.
How much are you willing to bet? I give a hint, there is an open issue from 2016 on their GitHub about supporting the manufacturer of my mouse. And that’s pretty much the point, because on Windows I just get the software with the box and that’s it. Of course it’s closed source and stuff, but it still provides a better experience than no support at all. And that’s just one example, Linux also can’t use the highest available resolution of my webcam, and the fingerprint reader on my laptop has been completely unusable on Linux from day one.
Immutable distros fix most boot issues, in the sense that you can undo a failed change, but that’s about it.
Ofc Windows has its fair share of issues, but it just doesn’t break as much in my experience. Probably because they have orders of magnitude more people working on finding and fixing consumer issues, incl. from 3rd party device and software manufacturers.
I’m sorry, but you’re lying to yourself if you think consumer support is on par with Windows. It’s getting closer and closer every year, but we are not there yet.
You can not agree with OP, but that doesn’t change reality. Linux is a pain to use for a regular user. Linux doesn’t support some programs that people depend on and have learned to use. Those things aren’t an issue for Windows, people don’t need to look around for fixes.
I get it, you like it. But the reality of it is - it’s a niche operating system for home use for a reason.
edit: I meant to say this to the one you replied to!
I agree with you. Plus, most of us are forced to use Windows 11 at work, where we spend most of our screen time.
Maybe I can bother with Linux at home, but that’s a fraction of the use case here.
I agree with you. Plus, most of us are forced to use Windows 11 at work, where we spend most of our screen time.
Maybe I can bother with Linux at home, but that’s a fraction of the use case here.
the annoying stereotype of vegans pushing their diet
Also, vegans actually do something good for the planet instead of just choosing a different OS for their PC. So, maybe acknowledge that to your neighborly vegan next time, instead of telling them a story about how you once met someone who was really pushy about veganism.
What the heck is that image
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
“Why do gay people always act flamboyant?”
“Why do vegans always push their lifestyle?”
Because you don’t see the ones that don’t
Tbf yes. They do something good for the planet. But I wouldn’t say choosing a different OS isn’t good for the planet either. First, you aren’t supporting companies that will burn this planet down without a second thought for a few million dollars. Secondly there are a few things on Linux made to use less electricity than Windows AND the fact it can run on older computers just fine means that there is less of a need for constantly upgrading this creating less computer waste. (Which something I and many others advocate for and a very solid reason to use Linux) but also merely for the fact that it is by far more ethical in a multitude of ways…
In that same Linux I had to rack my brain and still failed to launch the game I want.
You mean like that relationship?
Sure Linux has its own pros, but not what I need.
I used to think the same and sure there are still definitely games that won’t work, but gaming on Linux has come a loooong way. And with the recent bullshit that Microsoft is pulling with Windows 10 and especially 11 I just couldn’t take it anymore.
I just pulled the trigger last week and took out my Windows 10 drive! Ironically, league of legends broke on Linux again the next day. But I’m sticking with it. Windows is just so slow, bloated, and hard to navigate. And all my games run fine on Linux. LoL will probably be fixed again soon.
I’d say Linux not running League is a feature 🙂 come play StarCraft and micro more than one unit 😁
Or Dota.
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If League is still broken by new years, I’ll learn DotA. It’ll be my new years resolution haha
Linux not being able to launch a game (that probably was not made for it) is not a relationship issue but a technical one.
Even if it is possible to run the game but you need to hack around your distro’s configurations, you can be certain the default configuration was not made with the specific intent of preventing you from running the game.
In the Windows case you are not hacking around with the json file to solve a technical issue.
Windows is not misconfigured, it’s Microsoft’s explicit decision to prevent you from removing some of it’s software even if it’s forced by law to do so for other people.
It’s ok if you don’t mind Microsoft’s behavior or you just find Linux’s technical issues more important in choosing an OS. But the issues are not similar neither equivalent.
Or maybe the one that I had to reinstall every other month because it kept failing to boot (probably because I broke something because I had no clue what I was doing and trying to get stuff working).
Or maybe the one that I had to learn how rollback graphics drivers because I bought wrong brand of graphics card.
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Maybe wrong terminology? Or hopefully not an issue.
Nvida released a new driver. The driver crashed my Linux every time put on load. Had to uninstall with command line. Install old instead.
With the replays on how that common with Linux and how I should brought amd. I assumed was Common frustration with new nvidia.
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Are you using Steam? What game isn’t compatible with Linux and/or requires significant user effort to run?
Doesn’t work with older videos cards.
I’ve spent countless hours playing a game called Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI with PUK, which comes with its own DRM (non-Steam). Despite its availability on Steam, I’m hesitant to buy it again for the same experience, especially since it doesn’t run on Linux.
Another game I enjoy, Dead by Daylight on Steam, consistently runs into issues such as severe memory leaks, unresponsive spacebar after alt-tabbing, random freezes, and occasional stutters no matter what troubleshooting I attempt.
Lastly, my wife and I frequently play Fall Guys. While it’s mostly audio-related, there are occasional random disconnects that never happen on Windows, which can be frustrating for a game meant for casual enjoyment
On Steam 60 000 games of the 70 000 are not compatible with Linux.
Honest question, what do you consider not compatible? I switched to Linux earlier this year and 100%'d Armored Core 6 (Verrrrry good game everyone should play it) and I’m currently playing through Cyberpunk 2077 + Baldur’s Gate 3 co-op with friends. If AAA games like these work pretty well I’d assume the vast majority of those 60k games work as well.
Skill issue
Says linux elitist.
These people are another barrier on the road to Linux adoption. I personally had an issue with Void Linux, a systemd free distro whose manual is seriously lacking and lots of what is in Arch Wiki may not apply there. I went to their support server, detailed my problem and said that I had done what their manual said. The first response, I get is read the manual when it is just a page long(for the specific issue I was facing).
Ultimately, it was boiling down to a wrong flag attached to the command that was listed on the official website that was not solving my problem.
Support forums kind of suck all over. I’d imagine the systemd free distros are more elitest than the norm. Also jeeze, just meming on the internet, no need to “Those people” me sheesh.
Bruh, computers are tools to accomplish a task, if you wanna obsess over jack shit, then stare at the toilet, dont gatekeep a hobby.
Pick the tool without ads in your way then lol I’m not gatekeeping, simply saying get gud
Bruh, saying “get gud” to someone incapable of doing so doesn’t make you cool, it makes you an unempathetic asshole, and a bad software developer.
Whoa posting that comment made me a software developer?
If you need skills in order to use an OS, then that is a bad OS.
This is very true. There is a difference between being bad at using software, and software being bad. Linux just has an intrinsically bad desktop design.
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And if you use Linux you have to jump through hoops to install (non-steam) games. I know, just yesterday I had to search a working tutorial for installing Fall Guys.
BTW for anyone needing help in the future, this worked: https://youtu.be/X41PlQNx0vk
This isn’t much of a hoop, you install wine and run the installer with it, furthermore, I’d rather deal with the kind of hoop that isn’t actively harming you intentionally any day.
Any advanced user will face dozens of hoops a month on Linux
It’s never the simple things, nor the very difficult things. It’s small, niche workflows & use cases of your computer that you “sometimes” do, like, I don’t know, editing a PDF, installing shareX or an equivalent that can take a screenshot and upload it to imgur / run OCR on a part of your screen, running a Space Engineers server for your friends, running SSEEdit.exe to dump the contents of a potion overhaul mod in Skyrim and calculate which are the best ingredients to plant in your Skyrim greenhouse and garden for maximizing gold output.
No need to look up ways to do any of those, I’ll get different ones next week, and then more the week after.
You know, the millions of things that no one ever does except that guy in 2019 on StackExchange, but that you will have to do and then never again.
I face yearly hoops at most and I have supported many users, the vast majority of people have little to no trouble, and the cases you describe are either niche, one time setups, or bizarre things nearly nobody does.
I maintain that the vast majority of users will face fewer issues on linux than windows, these are all insanely edge cases.
It doesn’t matter that they are one time setups, the question is how many one time setups will you have to do in a year, year over year?
Same for “insanly edge cases” (editing a pdf, lol), the question is how likely are you to encounter an edge in your daily life?
When there’s a one-in-a-million chance to encounter a defect but there’s millions of them, it just becomes likely.
Turns out the world is made of a lot of edges for some advanced users.
Editing a pdf works perfectly, yes edge cases occur, but by definition they are not the norm, and edge cases would be resolved by more people using it anyway, and I can still easily recommend it for most people.
It was not easy. Other guides didn’t work, I had to find it, and also do or, so it took like 1 and a half hour.
My advice is honestly, just use steam, it’s largely a better experience anyway. I don’t think fall guys is exactly necessary. That’s a very self-imposed hoop, i’d get it if it was critical work, or if there were no alternatives, but, steam is a perfect experience.
It’s epics job to support linux, not linux’s job to support epic.
You ignore the reality though that even though it might be “epics job” to support Linux, it’s still the user’s problem right now if you want to play Fall Guys with your friends.
And you can’t just say “playing Fall Guys is not exactly necessary”. Social connections are very important to humans, being one of a group to not be able to participate in a shared activity can be socially isolating. Of course that’s a completely different topic you could argue about if it should be like this, but you can only dismiss it as not necessary for yourself, not as not necessary in general, for others.
If you use Windows, it works immediately, if you use Linux, you have to spend the time and do whatever that guy did. This is a very real cost for the user, time is one of the most precious things we have.
Of course you can argue about if it is worth it, but in the end people assign different value to things. If playing Fall Guys is very important to someone and it takes more time to do on Linux than on Windows, then Linux loses value. And this situation is not a single instance. People mostly only do what is the best for them in particular, and using less time to do the things they want to do is a prime example for this.
Fall guys is not the only game, nearly all of steam works flawlessly. So meh, and it is epics job to fix that. Play any other game on steam, fall guys isn’t important at all for the vast vast majority of users.
You do realize how much money Microsoft spends to make games work well on Windows, right? It is absolutely the responsibility of the OS to ensure smooth experience across many apps and services. This attitude right here is why Linux plays second fiddle to Windows still.
and yet nearly everything on steam works flawlessly.
It is absolutely the job of app devs to support the platform, I have no idea why you would believe otherwise, and as far as gaming is concerned I genuinely believe the only place linux loses on steam is anticheat, which isn’t a matter of linux side support. Do you have an example?
Harming you intentionally… This is rich.
Do you actually believe windows doesn’t harm users intentionally? Wait until you hear how they spy on you.
Don’t care, I block it. Doesn’t mean it’s not superior to Linux for a gaming platform.
Linux in a huge number of cases performs better than windows, and the only place where windows seems to win these days is anti-cheat, which is malware. Windows is certainly better when it comes to allowing users to install malware, but that’s really about it.
“I have to guard against my partner hitting me, doesn’t mean they’re not better at playing tennis”
As a user who bought FG on steam, I had ZERO issues whatsoever getting this to run on my Walmart laptop. This is an Epic issue. Fuck Epic. Ran Fall Guys into the ground before laying off basically all of its creative team. It’s just a grind now…
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Anyone who makes a stand to defend Linux as a gaming platform over Windows is righteously impractical at best, and a principled idiot at worst. It’s simply not there yet.
Listen, I probably one of the most hardcore linux propagandists out there, which spells disaster when I confess I’m anything but a tech guru, but even I am aware some people are too off the deep end to swim back and move to another OS.
Windows is locked in a dominant position and regardless how bad their solutions are in fact, not enough tech/privacy aware high level managers exist to push windows off the corporate shelf.
The alternative is to spread Linux and FOSS to kids and incentivize the use and exploring of technology because it is simply fun to do it, not shotgun proseletize and hope something sticks.
Your intention is good but the method, which I often use as well, needs a lot of refining.
Ableton Live and plugins don’t work on Linux, and I’d rather run it on my own build, so I have to use Windows. That’s also the machine I game on. Everything else is Debian.
You could try Bitwig. I have a friend that prefers it over Ableton even on Windows. And Windows-only VSTs work with Yabridge
Thanks for the Bitwig suggestion, I’ll look into it.
I’ve tried to set up multitrack recording a few times on Linux and regularly run into configuration issues. It is clearly not at parity with Windows. And even when one flavor of software does work, that’s not the same as someone’s chosen software working.
Some people have a workflow where they need to share stems and settings with collaborators or for mixing, which requires a specific program. And there’s still a fair amount of personal investment in learning the power features of a given DAW.
I’m using Linux as a daily driver and would like to see wider adoption. Unfortunately this is an area where I can’t recommend it.
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Wouldn’t it be nice to not have an adversarial, abusive relationship with your OS?
The whole point of computers, as far as I can tell, is to be that abusive relationship we never could perfect with humans. Linux is no exception, it’s just more passive-aggressive and better with gaslighting.
“You see, if only you’d installed this dependency, which I showed you so clearly in the error logs all along - and I categorised them so nicely - but you never like to look there, do you? - I mean, I understand, and that’s why I mentioned it - not too strongly, because I didn’t want to upset you more - in the terminal output…”
Package managers have become so much better with dependencies. It’s been a while since I’ve encountered an issue, with yay it very usually works out of the box.
Agreed. Though I do have recent experiences of dependency troubles. I really should get better at reporting them to the proper channels, but by the time I’ve worked out how to fix, I usually don’t have the energy left… 😕
My stint with Ubuntu… 16? Did not end well.
You realize that 16 means 2016, right? That’s almost 8 years ago. And even as someone who uses Linux I don’t like Ubuntu. I highly recommend trying Mint, Fedora, or EndeavourOS (Arch)
Most Linux developers don’t include anti-features on purpose, but Windows developers do.
I think dependencies have gotten simpler on Linux with flatpak. The fact that the command-line is still sometimes needed on Linux is just a fact of life. Nobody is forcing users to use it out of any sort of passive-aggressive distain for users, but just that it takes less time out of volunteer developers’ schedules to buold command-line tools.
I think one thing to note in the CLI-GUI debate though is that Windows pushed hard against CLI interfaces from day 1. Even starting with Windows 3, there were a lot of things you couldn’t do with CLI easily, while Unix has always had full CLI support. Users being unfamiliar with CLI interfaces is a symptom of Windows dominance.
I use command line by choice on Linux, but find myself forced to use PowerShell to make a windows installation that is somewhat bearable.
any sort of passive-aggressive distain for users,
Yeah, I don’t mean from the devs - though part of the community can be a bit like that sometimes. But the computer itself…
I may have been anthropomorphizing, with a touch of experience-induced poetic imagination.
Or Windows dominance is a symptom of the average computer user struggling with a cli
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That’s like saying Windows does… I.e. it’s not true. Maybe if you go back to the Win9x and DOS days.
I don’t think you’ve seen the number of power user articles these days that give you two options :
- Wade through 27 levels of keys and subkeys in regedit, create this dword, then stop and start this inscrutably-named service, or
- Run this one line command in PowerShell.
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It’s was definitely one of those “seemed like a good idea at the time” kinda things, but now they’ve realised they’ve created a monster.
I mean it’s so logical, I have real troubles figuring out why so many people don’t get it.
You can’t immediately see what options you have in a command line.
In a UI, you see the “menu” button right there.
If you have no idea about anything, in a UI, you can still click on the menu button, and are presented with more options.
In a command line, if you have absolutely no clue, what do you need to do? Honestly, you have to ask someone who knows (be it a friend, a manual, or web search). You can randomly start typing or press keys, but the chance to get to something useful is very low.
There’s a difference between feeling abused from intentional mistreatment and then there’s frustration from miscommunication or inadequacy from either partner.
It’s not Linux or Windows. For example Gaming and everyday Tasks I use Windows because Games I play run much better on Windows and I like to use it more. But for things like programming I will use Linux. I’m just beginning learning to code but I already made the painful experience of trying to get compiler, debugger etc. running on windows.
Linux and Windows are Tools. You can’t use a Hammer for every Taks, sometimes you need a Screwdriver.
Some tools are easy to repair but some tools detect if replaced parts are not from the manufacturer and refuse to work, or even require a subscription. You may say you really need a “screwdriver” but that doesn’t negate the criticism it requires being shoved up your fucking ass to work.
Bruh. In which Industry do you work? Don’t act like using Windows/Linux is causing you physical Pain.
I believe proprietary software gives unjust power to the creators/owners over the users and that most people being taken advantage of is detrimental to a free society.
At this point it’s literally just easier to use any Linux distro
I just installed Ubuntu (the more mainstream ofnlinux distros) to replace my windows OS. I was greeted by a cryptic error. After a quick search for some tecno bable, i had to start on safe mode and install the video drivers.
Do you think a “regular user” would be able to do this?
Don’t use Ubuntu desktop, it’s really buggy and full of snaps. Please try Pop OS and you will come back and say how smooth it is, and how you loved it.
Yeah, i belive you (despite the ltt fiasco), but to say that any distro is ready for the average person is just wrong. Thats just my point
but to say that any distro is ready for the average person is just wrong.
Would an average person install Windows on their machine?
Is your video card Nvidia by curiosity?
Yes, thats was the issue. I know about the proprietary drivers and the typical NVIDIA bullshit.
I’m amazed it took to the second comment to mention Linux.
No. Not really. But it’s fun to toss that out there, isn’t it.
Eh, I switched last year and it’s really not that different.
I’d assume it’s actually easier now by comparison seeing how Windows has kept shoving in ads
Good for you. You represent the entire computer user base, then?
Now tell the millions of people that don’t want to screw around with different distros, broken repositories, software that doesn’t work on Linux, proprietary drivers, etc. etc.
I like Linux a lot, but don’t make it something it isn’t. But this is Lemmy, so yay Linux.
different distros
Isn’t that a benefit of Linux, having all kinds of different distros and different options available? There isn’t a “one size fits all”. Just find the one you like and go from there.
broken repositories
How often does this actually happen? I can’t think of a time I encountered broken repositories within the last few years of using Linux as a daily driver, I feel like you’re exaggerating this. I think the repository system in general is amazing and installing software on Linux is so much better than Windows in about every way really.
software that doesn’t work on Linux
This is a fair point, it depends on your use case. If anything you need is only tied to Windows, then yeah you don’t have many options unfortunately. But I think for average people its probably fine since basically everything is on Linux nowadays, I guess biggest exceptions are like Microsoft Office and Adobe’s suite.
proprietary drivers
I assume you mean NVIDIA? You can just get a distro that includes them already installed and ready to go like Nobara, or just use one that makes them easier to set-up like Pop OS, if you’re uncomfortable installing them on a regular distro. (Though it really isn’t that difficult).
Overall Linux isn’t for everyone, but I do think it’s improving more and more and about at a point now where average users could probably get away with using it instead of Windows in a lot of cases. But it does depend on your use case for sure at the end of the day. Hopefully I’m not out of touch here though lol.
Computers are like cars. People want a car that goes from a to b, like every other car, with no fuss. If you’re really going crazy maybe you look for a manual transmission. They don’t want to mess with computers. They don’t want to know what’s under the hood. They don’t want to have to understand how the CVT works, or how to update a broken repository link via command line. That’s 99.5 of people.
How often do broken repositories happen? Often enough. Biggest reason would be not updating systems and the old repository closed. “BuT WhY wOuLd AnyOnE NoT UpDAtE!!?!” You might ask? Because updating breaks shit. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve had a distro set up exactly how I want, apt-get, now my gnome desktop isn’t working. Or Wine doesn’t work. Or whatever.
Only thing you use is tied to windows… See, that’s the thing. You just tossed that out there like all the windows software has a direct and equally capable equivalent on Linux. That’s not true, and I refer back to my car analogy that 99.5% of people don’t want to screw around with trying to sort out workarounds.
As far as drivers go it’s not just NVIDIA, but everything from touchpads to Bluetooth to fingerprint ID unlocks don’t all have Linux drivers. I actually find NVIDIA to be fairly well supported and haven’t had too much difficulty with it since Steam and gamers have decided that maybe Linux isn’t so bad and have made a lot of effort to keep things updated and compatible.
Out of touch… maybe. Take a trip through the Ubuntu forums some time. Probably the most popular and relatively easy distro to use. There are a ton of posts that just don’t get answers, where people just give up, or have multiple command line entries suggested that deal with everything from permissions, different command modifiers, and extremely basic stuff that doesn’t work like config or make. Again, think about that 99.5% that simply doesn’t want to deal with that shit, much less open a terminal window. They probably don’t even know how to open an admin level CMD window on Windows or even the task manager. Think how computer illiterate most people are where even changing a setting in their cellphone is too much trouble.
Look, we could discuss this all day. One of my chief complaints about the Linux crowd is that they just toss out that everyone should switch while completely ignoring the qualifications of the user base they’re asking to switch and putting that up against the thousands of choices and ways to break Linux that exist. That’s why people like Apple products. They’re hard to break by messing around with settings because Apple won’t let you do anything with the OS. You can still break windows, not as easily as one could before, and linux still breaks itself whether you like it or not.
This is why I use ArchI used to recommend Apple over Arch too for the exact reason, but then Wine and Proton drastically improved, especially GE. The only app I use that I can’t get to work or find a very good alternative for on EndeavourOS is
Roblox
(and my fingerprint driver, like you mentioned)
though I don’t speak for all industries of course.
My repositories have never broke for me, thanks to Arch, probably. If you’re really that worried about updates, you should probably use one of these
dirtyfixed-release LTS distros.I also have no idea how the kernel works.
I don’t know what half of that is, and frankly I don’t care lol
Obviously.
This whole platform is just Linux and Trump I swear
What else do you think the world runs on? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not Trump.
I adore Linux but it is not able to do everything I need for my job. I hate my dependence on Windows, but this is the real world.
My media server runs on Ubuntu, and I’d have it no other way
And communism.
Socialism, but yeah. That’s the decent side of the platform
They’re the same thing for most people on here, and it’s based
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Suuure, let me know when Revit, Civil 3D, ArcGIS, OpenRoads Designer are operable and supported on Linux.
I knoooooooow. I know arcgis is working on it at least. I’m a geologist, a ton of our geospatial programs require windows.
But I’m about ready to experiment with a dual joot for my home set up! I really never need windows for that anymore
Postgis and Qgis don’t require windows. ArcGIS is such bloat ware. They live by the cult following rather than merit.
I mean yeah, same with adobe and loads of other enterprise software suites. Unfortunately, most of us have no way of convincing our enterprise to move off of their shitty suite. I personally use open his for as much as possible, but professionally I’m stuck with what my work makes me use.
How did you get arc working on Linux?
See @applebusch@lemmy. world’s comment in this same chain.
Portal isn’t ArcPro :s
Only these? What about league of legends, valorant and Visual Studio?
Not many users need those.
I have 800 users at my work that would say otherwise. Those are software that the entire civil engineering, geospatial, and architectural world rely on to make infrastructure. So, I’d say many users need those.
A professional environment will certainly have requirements that differ from the common people.
Yep. From my point of view, it would be nice to at least have to option to switch users over. Tired of Microsoft’s shit.
Yes but it’s relative. I have 800 users right here that doesn’t use any of that stuff. Just saying it’s not really a block for 99% of users because all they do is surf the web and play games.
Over a hundred million people use Autodesk products; Bentley systems is around the same size. Entire essential industries are built on these software. Pinning that all on 1% is disingenuous.
My overall point is that until Linux or the software developers do something about the incompatibility/nonsupport, Windows is here to stay. Some of us have no choice.
Does Wine not work for those tools?
Good luck getting support for commercial software if you’re running it under wine.
Exactly what I was wondering. I main Linux since 2019. A buddy of mine sent me a unity demo game that he made ( basically a hello world ). I just did
wine hello-world.exeand it ran just fine ( auto downloaded .net runtimes and everything ).I don’t expect everything to run flawlessly, but wine has come a long way. Especially with valve support and investment into proton for gaming.
Every person with a job needs some kind of app which doesn’t work on Linux. If you’re a teen still studying in school, then yeah, use Linux.
I use Windows at work (it is a corporate laptop) but I don’t use a single app which is Windows-only and irreplaceable. My current job isn’t technology-focused, and I don’t really use anything except standard office-related software.
In my previous job I was a software engineer and also used Windows (same reason; corporate laptop) but again everything I used would have worked in Linux.
People should use whatever platform works best for them. I’m a Linux user at heart, but I’m all for using Windows if that’s the right tool for the job. But it’s not a “grown ups need Windows only teenagers can use Linux” thing. Most working people would do fine with Linux or Mac.
The future is now old man.
Looks like the other three aren’t natively supported though.
A bunch of our civil engs happily use qGIS.
I’ve noticed Ala lot of the features on ArcGIS actually originate from qGIS after having built some mapping tools.
Ah, I didn’t know that about ArcGIS!
Still, the others are arguably more important to the civil industry as a whole. I personally don’t believe Autodesk or Bentley will ever support Linux, so us civil folks are stuck.
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IntregratedServicesRegionPolicySet.json
{ "$schema": "schemas/IntegratedServices RegionPolicySet.Schema.1.0.0.json", "version": "1.0", "policies": [ { "$comment": "Edge is uninstallable.", "defaultState": "disabled", "guid": "{1bca278a-5d11-4acf-ad2f-f9ab6d7f93a6}", "conditions": { "region": { "enabled":["AT", "BE", "BG", "CH", "CY", "CZ", "DE", "DK", "EE", "ES", "FI", "FR", "GP", "GR", "HR", "HU", "IE", "IS", "IT", "LI", "LT", "LU", "LV", "MT", "MQ", "NL", "NO", "PL", "PT", "RE", "RO", "SE", "SI", "SK", "YT"]} } }, { "$comment": "User can disable web search.", "guid": "{6002ce31-b807-4f82-820c-2b92e716ab76}", "defaultState": "disabled", "conditions": { "region": { "enabled": ["AT", "BE", "BG", "CH", "CY", "CZ", "DE", "DK", "EE", "ES", "FI", "FR", "GF", "GP", "GR", "HR", "HU", "IE", "IS", "IT", "LI", "LT", "LU", "LV", "MT", "MQ", "NL", "NO", "PL", "PT", "RE" "RO", "SE", "SI", "SK", "YT"] } }
It took me embarrassingly long to figure out how to read the title correctly. Like, you need a json file to enable Edge and Bing??
No, you need a JSON file if you’re not in the EU but still want to be able to disable the integrated crap
That seems like standard options why would they be disabled?
Does this work for non EU?
That’s literally the whole point, but right now only in preview versions.
Just install Linux already. Have any inevitable windows requirements? Run them in a VM until you can get rid of them. Fuck Microsoft and their bullshit
Running Visual Studio in a VM? No thanks, it is heavy enough as it is. And don’t say use VS Code or Rider. Saying “Just use some other software, so you can use Linux” defeats the entire argument that Linux can be used in place of Windows.
Discord with virtual backgrounds for video calls? Yeah that’s not supported on Linux.
I mean, you should be using Rider anyways.
I dunno man, I recently put Mint onto my Lenovo and… the refinement just isn’t there STILL. dual monitor management isn’t very good, even mouse acceleration doesn’t play well when you go from the touchpad to an external mouse. Sure, many things have improved, but the fit and finish just isn’t even where windows was a decade ago…
We’re you on Xorg? I think Mint still is by default?
Recommend trying Fedora proper (with Gnome).
Everything works perfectly except HDR (next release).
Even multi monitor and hidpi. It’s polished and cohesive in its design. And if you want the windows 7 look you can use the dash to panel extension.
Is it not good or is it different from your habitz? Haven’t had issues with those points on my Linuxes.
Try Fedora with KDE.
In my opinion it’s the best one for having the most ease-of-use hardware support out of the box, as they’re backed by IBM, which used to own Lenovo.
I will never install Linux because I’ll never trust that it’ll be easier to use than windows, and that’s all I want.
I can’t count the number of people that have told me I should be on Linux and that if I use Mint it’ll be a piece of perfect cake, despite me also seeing comments like this on a pretty regular basis.
Why is it that so much of the community REFUSES to acknowledge any shortcomings? Almost like it’s their child and you’re personally attacking their parenting by suggesting its not flawlessly simple.
You know what, you’re absolutely right. I’m pretty steeped into the whole linux thing, but it really isn’t going to win any prizes for usability. If I need shit to work, I’ll boot into my windows partition. When I’m up for some tinkering fun, my GRUB defaults to Tumbleweed. It is not for everyone, despite what some neckbeards or snobs would lead people to believe.
Try bodhi the advanced hw version.
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The person you replied to provided real-world and relatable examples. What do you have other than durr linux good windows bad?
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I have dual monitors with different scaling and refresh rates, both work perfectly. Even VRR works as expected. I’m using Manjaro KDE with Wayland, Intel CPU, AMD GPU.
Linux Mint hasn’t finished their work on Wayland and thus, the things you are experiencing are unfortunately expected. So you might want to try with another distro with GNOME or KDE.
When people suggested you Mint, they were wrong in ignoring your setup.
That’s another issue with Linux: one thing works in distro X and another thing works in distro Y. OS should just work. Linux doesn’t.
Linux works. It’s only a Kernel.
Android is also a linux distro. To you, it might seem as another OS. So from that point of view, each distro would be a dIfferent OS. So you should judge each distro as such.
That’s not what people mean when saying “switch to Linux”.
They mean a Linux based OS, and say Linux for short. They could also say GNU/Linux, but chose not to. I do it every single time, but its for convenience, but technically imprecise.
When we are talking about distributions being different, that’s their whole purpose, since their only common denominator is the underlying kernel.
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Installed Mint. I needed quite a lot of work to make for example IDE configured CORRECTLY. (VSCodium on flatpak is a pain in the ass, don’t recommend). But aside of that, after small tweaks and customizations and I like it. I’ll make a point that I kad previous experience with Linux (PopOS/Mint/Ubuntu), although not a positive one. Now I’m seeing that being here is vastly better than windows, and ofc more concise. The backup system is nice, allows you to revert for example an update (which was important for my case cuz after major system update, fingerprint authentication on login screen was borked, and needed reinstall). Overall nice experience. It’s not perfect, but nothing is.
Nothing works under Linux. And the list just just keeps growing.
Anti-cheat is still a major issue. Even in a VM with GPU pass-through, anti-cheat will still prevent some popular games from running.
As an artist, the hassle of running a VM can actually kill creative flow. Same with alternatives.
People underestimate how much such a tiny can completely disrupt flow of thoughts, esp for creative works.
It’s not even laziness either. It just “feels wrong”
I’m honestly surprised that I’m going to say this, as I have not used this term and over a decade, but there’s a lot of FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) going on in the comments on this topic, trying to shape a certain narrative.
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I disagree that that’s much of a problem. Notepad’s just a low footprint plaintext editor, period. It’s good enough for what it does. If you want something more advanced (with more footprint and start time), just use <insert editor here>. I never saw anyone hating on echo and cat…
I refuse to believe anyone ever opens microsoft notepad on purpose.
Depending on the system you’re on it can be all you have. It’s like Microsoft’s vi, just so much worse
I use it as a temporary text storage since my browser search bar copy and paste stopped working
Best plain txt viewer
It is worth mentioning that changes you made to the IntegratedServicesRegionPolicySet.json file won’t have effect in stable versions of Windows 10 and Windows 11. Microsoft has to roll out this new capability to the stable branch in March 2024.
It’s annoying that this is all the way at the bottom of the article. Good to know I can do all this, glad I didn’t attempt to change any of this now, because it’s pointless until these updates hit stable
came here to complain about this. BTW, found a more complicated way to remove edge on Tom’s. makes linux howtos look preschool
Just a JSON file in Windows 11 enables you to dock the fucking taskbar to the side of your screen.
I’m just a simple girl with simple desires.
Sweet, even less garbage to clutter up the ol gaming rig.
Maybe one day game devs will enable anticheat on Linux so I can finally uninstall the shit OS.
Maybe one day game devs will enable anticheat on Linux so I can finally uninstall the shit OS.
EasyAntiCheat is already there.
I think whatever Valorant has is the main issue. Back 4 Blood also doesn’t work for some reason, nor does it work in a Windows VM.
GIVE IT TO ME YESTERDAY
Christmas came early this year
The headline is misleading. This Json file is staged but not ready until Microsoft actually releases the changes in March 2024
Yup.
These changes have already been integrated into Windows 10 with KB5032278 and Windows 11 with KB5032288 , but have largely not yet been activated.
Guess just need to wait till they do.
Aw man. I’ll plug in the PiHole again T_T
None of these settings should be controlled by Microsoft. It’s my computer, Satya.
