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Why Bother With uBlock Being Blocked In Chrome? Now Is The Best Time To Switch To Firefox::Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs.
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It motivated me to finally set up pi hole in my old raspberry pi I wasnt using, so there’s that
doesn’t help with youtube ads unfortunately
Generally no, but I’ve noticed a couple of times where it said “1 of 2 ads”, 1 ad played, there was a pause, and it went back to the content.
I try to use Libretube on mobile
A mix of things helps. For most, pi hole/adguard home covers you. For YouTube ads there are a large number of addons and extensions that still cover that. (I actually pay for family premium out of Turkey for various reasons.)
On TV you’ve got iSponsorBlock which can both mute and auto skip (when the skip button becomes available) the ads when they come up, with the added benefit of being able to skip in video sponsoring/ads. And it doesn’t even need to be running on your local network.
There are solutions, just gotta dig around a little bit.
I don’t want to
Man goes into icecream store, yells “I don’t want icecream” for no reason. More at 11
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Grow up.
I like Librewolf better
I.e. Firefox
Whatever forks you choose, they’d better be based off Gecko-based browsers, and the only one now is Firefox (and all that forked from it)
Librewolf is firefox without the bloat.
Yes, essentially. But that’s still Firefox, and it makes sense to refer to it as such when talking about global things like Manifest V2 support, adblocking, and other basic functional blocks from eagle view.
And then we can go into details and talk about differences between Firefox forks, Librewolf being just one of the most popular. This is important to talk about, just not in this particular context.
It’s like uniting and arguing in favor of Linux regardless of the distros - distro wars are still valid, but not something we should immediately load onto a Windows user. Heck, even if person goes for a goddamn Ubuntu, it will be an improvement. Same logic.
What is with the almost constant ads for Firefox on this platform? It seems every other day I’m blasted with some “Chrome bad get Firefox” article.
I get it, Firefox is great, we know. Beating a dead horse a bit at this point though.
The /c/technology community is the place for things like this. If you wanted to see less you could block the community.
it’s because it’s literally the only non chromium browser that’s a viable alternative. At this point there are literally just 2 options for browsers: chromium based, Firefox based. That’s pretty much it.
I’ve started making the switch. The only thing that’s holding me back fully is the google search function. I just don’t get as accurate results on Firefox as I do on Chrome
I switched from Chrome and it was seamless. After a few weeks I didn’t notice any negative difference.
Last I checked, Firefox had also been switching to Manifest v3 because they’re also combating the tide of add-ons that pretend to do something useful, but actually steal your information. They asked uBlock at least a few times how they could build Manifest v3 in a way that’d be compatible. Instead of the browser asking about each URL, thereby giving the add-on access to personal information, uBlock could tell the browser what to block. uBlock’s answer was always, “No. That’s not good enough. Give the add-on access to URLs.” It seemed to me like every time uBlock was approached, they turned to news sites to complain and IIR, the feature that would have given uBlock some functionality was removed from v3 because if nobody’s going to use it, why build it?
I wonder, now that uBlock has conflated the discussion of, “How much should extensions be able to see and modify URLs you’re visiting?”, with, “v3 is a war on ad blockers!”, how quickly Firefox will move forward with v3, if at all.
I think a lot of people don’t realize what a gaping security hole extensions can be. Back in the 2000s, I’d install almost anything that seemed useful without realizing the amount of data that goes through them.
i’ve been on Firefox in the last 8 years. i don’t even know what’s going on in Chrome and other browsers lol.
I mean I tried to download the official minecraft client for debian and was not able to on Firefox.
Microsoft disabled the site on non Chrome browser
Just tried it myself and it doesn’t have any issues at all. It seems like it might be an issue with something else on your end.
Though honestly I’d strongly recommend against using the Official launcher as it has been known to introduce bugs and in general has poorer support for mods. I prefer the MultiMC forks like Prism, which don’t have the bugs the official one does.
I wanted sth that is updated by my system and the flatpak I found logged me in as a unsecure user or I had to login at each launch
Are you sure? I just tested and after logging in, the option to download the launcher was there (popos/firefox).
Maybe my adblocker is the issue
user agent switching is fortunately not too difficult to do.
This sounded weird to me, so I just tried it. Running Firefox on Kubuntu, I just downloaded it with one click from here.
Well didn’t work for me on debian
Same… I don’t understand the appeal of Chrome. I think they used a new java engine like 10 years ago and beat Firefox in a handful of benchmarks, and then Firefox conclusively and irreconcilably trounced Chrome a few months later, never letting up a bit.
I remember when they released Firefox Quantum. Too many tabs was never a problem again.
If you are concerned about things like PWAs like I was, try it out anyway. PWAs require a bit more setup, but are a lot more flexible in Firefox. For example, PWAs with http connections have a huge banner in Chrome, and just an icon in Firefox. Everything I’ve noticed is that firefox is just as snappy as Chrome
I thought PWA’s didn’t work on Firefox. That’s good to know, because I’ve been using chromium specifically for PWA’s.
Same here, I tried the PWAsForFirefox extension a few years back and found the setup to be too much of a pain in the ass compared to the Chromium forks. I tried again around 9-12 months ago when Manifest V3 drama was making the rounds and found the extension had been overhauled and that’s no longer a problem. As a bonus each PWA is a self-contained browser instance, so performance is improved when only the PWA is open, and extensions are per-PWA. So I can run only Purple Adblock on my Twitch PWA, or only uBlock for Youtube, etc.
Any idea how to get links clicked in a PWA like Google Messages to open in a normal browser tab? I’ve tried nothing.
Go to the PWA settings and enable “Open out-of-scope URLs in a default browser” and restart your PWAs.
I’m using them heavily as well. Mostly good. Painful though when moving between computers as you have to set them up on each one. If they can get it to sync eventually that’d be handy.
What PWA do you use? I think they’re a neat idea but I haven’t come up with an actual use case yet.
Gmail x2. Pulse SMS. Keep. Calendar. Whatsapp, Facebook, Messenger. All as task bar icons.
I used to use Chrome for this but every now and then it’d break and they would either open in the wrong profile, or they’d add a tab to the main browser rather than opening as a window.
I just use it for any tab which I always have open, so they’re organised on my taskbar. That way I don’t end up with 40 tabs of like 5 different websites that I just pathologically open up a new tab for each time I revisit, having to scan through them all each time I want to switch to find one from before. That’s an ADHD thing though. Effectively for some websites I want the tab to always be pinned and easily accessible with a large icon for a visual cue, and this way that all happens automatically
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Aesthetic and productivity. Which are good reasons.
Let’s say you access your company ERP system through a PWA, or the HR system. You want to alt tab back and forth to it like a regular app. You’re checking supplier data on the web and entering it on the system. It’s a lot easier to do so if your ERP is an app. But if it’s not available as a native app, PWA is a good alternative.
I mainly use them when I want something windowed but without tabs taking up space. Like monitoring my solar panels
thank you comment section, lemmy is so obnoxious when it comes to firefox ill be going with something chromium based soon now out of spite
Enjoy your ads because adblock on chromium fails
my man, not only have several forks got inbuild adblockers that wont be affected by manifestv3, ublock origin already got a working version for a long time
Say that to YouTube when they tell you “UwU please turn off your Adblocker”
That’s the problem with Chromium based browsers.
your own fault for watching youtube directly and i never had that on a chromium browser, only ever on firefox
Yeah, lets switch to questionable ethics company number 2 and shady finances.
- https://12bytes.org/the-mozilla-monster/
- https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla
I used to use Firefox as my primary browser and sometimes even recommended it, but after all those articles I started digging a bit and doing research on what the browser calls and does and I was bit horrified. What I really don’t like about this Mozilla situation is that tech people tend to see them as the “all savior Mozilla” while, in fact, they’re full of shit.
If you do care about freedom and your privacy use LibreWolf or Ungoogled Chromium.
If you do care about freedom and your privacy use LibreWolf or Ungoogled Chromium.
Neither of which are mentioned in the article, for some reason.
Neither of which are mentioned in the article, for some reason.
What’s your point? The articles are about why you should avoid Firefox… not about suggesting alternatives.
That is exactly the point of the article
Today we will go ahead and take a look at a number of privacy-oriented web browsers outside those provided by Big Tech, which treat you like a human being and not a bullseye for targeted advertisement revenue.
What are these sources, but yes, LibreWolf is the way to go
Why settle for less anyway, Firefox all the way
Why settle for less
Because I’m a tool.
The people who know what UBO or a firefox even is is the vast minority. Google could single handedly completely fuck over the free internet and a majority still wouldn’t give a fuck as long as they get that sweet sweet one click convinence. The average consumer who plays on their phone and tappy taps on their laptop have zero clue how their devices actually work, or that there are more privacy friendly options. They just want their shit to work, privacy and daddy google violating their basic human rights be damned.
Oh and also some websites make it a huge pain in the ass if you aren’t using chromium. I think its a bit of a conspiracy but could be wrong.
Also stop shilling firefox and start shilling Librewolf
The average consumer who plays on their phone and tappy taps on their laptop have zero clue how their devices actually work, or that there are more privacy friendly options.
Doesn’t this apply to most things? Phones, laptops, desktops…and cars, refrigerators, garage door openers, light bulbs, etc etc
is librewolf on mobile?
Nope only desktop. FF on mobile does have UBO available to install and I hear they are making plans to have all desktop addons be available on mobile at some point. I use kiwi browser for mobile. It is unfortunately chromium based but lets you install all the desktop adds from the chrome store including UBO
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It blows my mind how many people do you not understand how essentially useless Chrome is now and how much it has changed.
What about chrome is useless? What makes chrome so useless that a normie would want it to change? In the end both let you browse the internet just fine. from work i use Firefox and at home i had chrome for years. I did not recognise any diffrenses except ram usage and it beeing a Google product. I changed to firefox at home a few months back so it is the same at work and at home. Can’t say it feels any snapier or whatever. For a normie Privacy is no reason to change. They don’t care. Ram, they probably don’t even know what that is. You have to search for new extensions in the mozilla store if the same one you used does not exist there. That is the reason firefox will not dominate Chrome in my opinion. For a normie there is absolutely no reason to change and normies are the majority of people. Some anecdotal story. At work i installed for some colleges Adblockers because the said some of the ads where anoying and after i did in the following months one after another wanted me to deactivate it again because they could not figure out to visit some websites. As i offered them to show them how they could get around it they just denied. “that is to complicated for me.” So yeah. Normies do not care and even worse adblock blockers work.
Not to mention that Youtube and Chrome are run by the same company.
there are many reasons to prefer chromium based browsers, security being one of them
am not saying that firefox is inherently bad, but that there are valid reasons to use something else. I know that this is considered a hot take on lemmy but it needs to be said
They said Chrome specifically, not Chromium as a whole.
by Chrome they usually mean chromium and all of its derivatives since those will also get mv3 unless they specifically opt out
On balance, though, since most people go almost exclusively to well-known, uncompromised websites that are legitimate and also trying to harvest data, privacy protections are more important. Defend against the attacks you know are happening and all.
Besides, most attacks are social engineering these days, and even the most secure browser on earth won’t defend against that. The recent flurry of high profile YouTube account hijacks was accomplished via malware that stole session tokens from both Chrome and Firefox.
both privacy and security are important and neither one is going to save you from a social engineering attack.
and besides, trusting on your users to only go to well known websites isn’t something you should rely on.
but yeah, I totally get your point
Agreed all around.
In my book, nothing changed because I refuse to run anything closed source on MY computer.
Very Stallman of you, unfortunately for many people’s use cases they will want at least proprietary video codecs or drivers. You could even argue using most websites with minified JS is closed source.
Whatever you’re willing to be exterminated for.
Edit: All you fucking morons come here and downvote me but fact of the matter is you will all die and there will be zero reproduction of humanity in far less than a decade from now.
Only Free and Open Source AI Software will save you. Only. But go on, like your vote makes any fucking difference.
Why’re you so angry over this?
You read emotions in words written down. You a fishing. You are ignorant.
I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying. I’m genuinely curious as to why you’re getting so angry over this, that’s all.
There’s no angry. You’re reading shit. Not observing a person.
I’d mark this comment to return to in 10 years, but I have a sneaking suspicion you won’t be around to answer me when I point out that we are all neither dead, or sterile.
So I’m just gonna say, 10 years early: Lol
If it ain’t global soaring, it’s viral (synthetic or genetic, don’t matter), or war & tyrrany, pollution & poison, I’m only saying probably within a decade but I guarenfuckingtee it won’t make two.
We need a remind me bot. I’ll make one in 10 years when I have the time.
Well, that escalated quickly.
You’re missing shit. Like, the fact that you and everyone else will die for ignorance of the only survival possible on this planet being FOSS.
Neither I nor you escalated shit. The patriarchy in its attempt to murder everyone already did that. You’re just ignorant of that and misread that happening here and now.
The… patriarchy.
That was an unexpected addition to your disassociated rants.
Dissociated? Just exactly what do you draw that from? I ain’t chugged in months…lol.
What I don’t get is that my browser experience is legitimately better overall, I don’t know what was keeping me from switching all these years. Familiarity perhaps.
