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VC money very likely dried up and the IPO was the opportunity to raise more funding. all they needed to do was put ads in 3rd party apps and they take a cut of revenue…
I honestly thought that after all these things they would spring back but I honestly now feel like they’re going to go the way of Digg
Well you see, finding a way to reliably deliver ads via the API would have taken far too much developer brainpower for a company that can’t make a functional video player or a mobile app that doesn’t annihilate battery with ridiculously excessive cpu use and keepalive requests…
a mobile app that doesn’t annihilate battery with ridiculously excessive cpu use and keepalive requests
Speaking of which, how on Earth it’s such a slug these days? I pretty much quit Reddit when the protest started and moved to Lemmy. I never used any other Android app since I was reasonably happy with the official app. However, when I launched it to check how my old subs fared, I was quite surprised at how slow, laggy and bloated POS it had come.
I honestly don’t remember it being this crappy just a few weeks ago.
It’s some combination of developer incompetence- they’ve basically never put out any decent running code- and intentional resource use for the ridiculous amount of tracking they run. Reddit tracks everything about your browsing habits as well as actively loads ads in the background. It’s entire purpose was never for quality user experience, it was for revenue generation (which 3rd party apps get in the way of)
Well you see, finding a way to reliably deliver ads via the API would have taken far too much developer brainpower for a company that can’t make a functional video player or a mobile app
It honestly wouldn’t be that hard at all. You deliver ads via the API alongside actual posts, as if they are an actual post, and forbid altering them in the developer ToS. If you want to be anal about enforcement, run popular 3rd-party apps in an emulator to verify that the JSON returned by the site is unaltered when it’s rendered in the app. You could put this together in a weekend.
Which really just speaks to quality of talent at reddit, or the management at reddit suppressing that talent. Or both.
I’m pretty sure the real issue is the data collection Reddit wants about user habits. They can’t get thst from 3rd party apps, even if they make browsing habit data (scroll speeds, post linger time, ads displayed, etc) a mandatory part of the API they cannot verify what the 3rd party app is reporting and it becomes junk data that advertisers cannot rely on. They need complete ecosystem control to make the marketing optimizers happy. So, fuck the consumer!
They had a golden goose and rather than let it continue laying golden eggs, they cooked it for dinner.
Or just require an account to have reddit premium in order to use the API.
I mean I honestly don’t understand. I’m just going to assume that they aren’t actually retarded and want the best for the company, but this sounds like one person over there is making the decisions and everyone else is terrified of calling out the bad ideas. How else does a company just implode like this? I’ve worked in creative tech environments with super dominating bosses that was scary to even ask a question let alone call them out. So sad.
I was a daily (hours) Reddit user for the past 15 years and I quit…completely. I have not gone back. The hour Apollo shut down I was done. I said I would leave and I keep my word. Been here ever since. It’s taken some time but this is filling my Reddit need.
Only problem is looking up tips on video games always links to a Reddit discussion and I just refuse. Fuck u/spez
It’s crazy how easy this recent drama has made leaving Reddit for me. Saw all the user-hostile changes and just deleted my Reddit apps and have only been visiting it via google searches on very domain-specific knowledge.
I agree with everything you said. However, I almost couldn’t finish reading your comment because of your use of the R slur. I’m not reporting it or anything, just something to think on.
A week or so on Lemmy and I’ve seen this slur on like 3 different occasions. It’s disappointing. I guess I was just more familiar with what communities to avoid on reddit (wsb) if I didn’t want to see it.
Yeah, It’s unnecessarily cruel. Hits like a gut punch ever time I see it now. Thanks for saying something.
You know what, I appreciate your callout. As an 80s kid there was a LOT of terms we used and our vocabulary was quite robust when it came to offensive words. Although we never truly meant to hurt any person or group those slurs were associated with. I’ve done an incredible job of eliminating all that stuff from my lexicon, but this word in particular has been difficult for me and if I use it I’m always angry.
I’ll try and do better
Just keep in mind there are words you use today, oftentimes daily, that will be considered hurtful and maybe even a “slur” in a matter of years and at most a few decades. All we can do is try and be conscience of this and work hard to eliminate them from your vocabulary but it’s not easy when you’ve used a word or term for decades
Here’s a selection of words from a list that a Harvard group just recently deemed “harmful”:
American, You guys, Prisoner, Crazy, Victim, Karen, Walk-in.
The meaning of retard is to delay or impede the development or progress of; to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment
Just something to think on
Yeah, it was even a medical term and then a bunch of kids (and less gracious adults) went around using it as an insult and now it’s taboo. Welcome to living languages, they change. I said what I said, your “umm, actually” adds nothing to the conversation.
It’s totally appropriate to use in that context e.g. retarding a fire or the brakes retarding a car, but OPs are clearly not using it like that.
In the 21st century the that word is widely understood to be a slur and thus violates rules 1 and 2 on lemmy.ml (where this community is hosted).
Also, you’re quoting the definition of the verb, which is typically not applied to people, while the (now deleted, on lemmy.ml at least) grandparent comment was using the word as an adjective… which is.
Thanks for pointing that out
Is Reddit the new r word?
There is still the free option of revanced, that patched the original reddit app so that you don’t have any adds… You can also change the icon of you want.
This won’t work on android because changing icon is trivial lmao
Assuming people know how to do that, this is preying on those who don’t.
It reminds me of all the nagging and lying that MS does, telling people who download other browsers that Edge is better for example. Almost everyone here with a bit of technical knowledge knows that is ridiculous. Now Edge already has 5% market share, more than Firefox though.
They should just buy the icons from Apollo if this is all their designers can muster up 😬
I‘m just glad seeing this place more and more active. Old stupid Reddit, you’ve made the Digg-move.
Insane that on iOS you can’t just change the icons to whatever you want
You sort of can.
While we all hate reddit, them changing the app icon to make a reference to what used to be a fun event shouldn’t be our main point.
Imagine spending money on reddit premium
Especially considering they’re removing all coins and awards. So you’re literally paying $60 only to make your home screen icon a little more pretty
And not view ads right?
For now. Just like coins and awards, that will probably be taken away soon too.
Just more subscription hell. It’s ridiculous anymore. I’ll need a subscription to flush my toilet at some point. I mean how much of this are consumers willing to put up with. Anyway Reddit is well on the path of monetizing themselves to irrelevance.
I’ll need a subscription to flush my toilet at some point.
It’s called a water bill. You pay it monthly, even if you don’t use any water!
Idk, I pay for my utilities based on usage, and there are fees too. The fees maybe could be argued are subscriptions, but they’re not the majority of the bill
I’m sure you get my point. Yes you have to pay the water bill to flush the toilet. There’s lots of other “subscriptions” for utilities like power, garbage collection, sewer. We call those bills not subscriptions and they’ve been around as long as modern society. I think we can take those for granted. Not in the same league as the subscription hell we’re seeing for online services these days.
To that point you already pay for internet in the same way you pay for water. Paying for a specific website is like paying to use a toilet.
Analogy stands.
I’m from NL… Would be better if there was a subscription to use toilets instead of paying 50c or more every time. Always have to carry coins around just incase you need to pee. Super annoying.
I forgot that in some countries toilets aren’t free to use. That’s wild!
There’s an app actually in NL to find toilets, and it tells you their condition and the cost, open times, etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nu.hogenood
And if you have IBS, you can get a yearly toilet pass (EuroKey)… That gives you quicker? And one time cost access to toilets.
Wild shit honestly.
I know the US is hella behind in payment technologies, but can you tap your phone in NL to pay for toilets? I haven’t carried cash for 15+ years in Canada. If so, I honestly like that system. At least I wouldn’t encounter a group of homeless people shooting up in the timmies bathroom at 8pm.
You’d think so right, and everything else here is super tap to pay oriented… Most toilets aren’t though, maybe the ones at the train station, but that’s a whole other kettle of fish. You pay for that, then they give you a voucher back to go use at a store in the station. Nobody uses them, so it’s just extra overpriced and hella dirty.
Honestly it’s a scam all round.
I mean you technically already do pay a subscription to flush your toilet by paying a water bill, just you get a lot more benefits
It’s more of an a la carte situation but ya
anymore
That’s not how that word works.
Edit: I didn’t say I I’ve never seen it used that way, i just find that particular use of it to be wrong.
Leave that grammar nazi shit on reddit.
Never understood why people get upset for learning. My sister is 33 and has her own business. Every time she writes emails or company ads, she types at a 3rd grade level.
She uses the wrong “there”, says “should of”, etc.
When I try to teach her, she gets angry. Why? Do you want to stay stupid?
I don’t believe it’s so much about the correction itself as it is about ignoring what the person said and only piping up to correct. Imagine we are having a conversation and you spend 3 minutes telling me about how you struggled to get the lug nuts off your tire this morning while changing it and when you finished, all I had to offer you is “they’re on the rim, not the tire” and nothing more. It can come off as a bit rude.
It’s all in the way the person points it out.
Time and place. Quite arrogant to assume someone isn’t just using local phrasing, as is the case here. People talk differently all over. The official use of English is simply official. How people actually use it in their communities is correct. Hope I’m being clear with my sentiment here.
Please sir, the only English I use is the Queef’s English.
It’s colloquial to the USA, it’s an expression. My grammar is usually good except when I bastardize it to make a point like, “I aint gonna take that crap” or “grammar corrections are getting ridiculous anymore.” In the USA you’d have to live under a rock to have never heard that expression.
The positive sense usage of anymore is a regional thing: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anymore
It’s jarring nevertheless
But the previous poster didn’t use it in that way.
at the present time : NOW, NOWADAYS Hardly a day passes without rain anymore.
That’s not how they used it though. Grammatical construction matters
Just more subscription hell. It’s ridiculous anymore.
“It’s ridiculous these days”
“I don’t go out any more”
It’s ridiculous nowadays. Have no idea how you’re still not getting it, it’s actually impressive.
I understood perfectly and I bet a lot of others did too. I bet you understood it. So, mostly or completely successful use of the word to inject the desired thoughts into others’ heads. So, the word works that way, even if it sounds awkward to you.
This is getting so stupid, it’s beginning to sound like The Onion. Why don’t they just start charging for reading posts.
Here’s an idea: Every day you get 5 Reddit Emeralds for free, and you can use them to read 5 posts. If you want to read more, you can get more emeralds from Common Reddit Loot Boxes. You can buy those boxes with Reddit Rubies.
You can get Reddit rubies from Rare Reddit Loot Boxes, and in order to get those, you have to use Reddit Diamonds. If you have 19 Common boxes you can also craft 1 Rare Loot Box. Doing so will also require 10 rubies.
You can also buy Reddit Diamonds with Superior Crypto-Augmented Money (SCAM), and getting those coins requires real world money.
Ok, so now that you have all these gems, you can put them to good use. Emeralds are used to read posts. When you comment, there’s a 50% chance that it will be deleted within 30 minutes, but you can improve your odds by spending 1 Reddit Ruby. For each Ruby, the odds improve by 10%. Posts have the same mechanism, but you need to spend Diamonds instead.
Be careful or you might get a job offer from reddit
Or EA.
too late, Twitter has got OP to sign a contract already.
Meh, Twitter doesn’t take contracts that seriously under Muskrat.
/u/spez is violently taking notes.
Too plausible!
Dear God they’ll have this implemented within a week. Why did you do this?
Some men want to watch the world burn and use the resulting embers to make some popcorn. 🍿
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Same reason why Raid Shadow Legends and Destiny make so much money.
See also: different types of deceptive designs
While working on a software project, you could turn that job into mini-game where you try to squeeze each and every one of those tricks into the app. Who knows, there could be a secret achievement for that.
The onion wasn’t wrong. He is ahead of it’s time.
The onion wasn’t wrong. He is ahead of it’s time.
Why don’t they just start charging for reading posts.
They’re already discussing this, believe it or not. I saw an announcement about it a few weeks ago.
Going crazy with that scenario wasn’t enough since reality has already caught up with it. Need to up my game…
Twitter only lets you read so many tweets without paying, so this is entirely possible
OMG it happened again. Just say the stupidest thing you can think of, and you’ll find out that thing was already made reality some time ago.
Write that down! Write that down!
Got half way through your post and started to feel sick. Not because it’s ridiculous, but because it sounds like actual other apps and this is our reality now.
Sorry about that. That’s what tends to happen with literary naturalism, a style I find my self gravitating towards every now and then.
Joke’s on them I like retro logos
That is genuinely funny.
haha jokes on them, I never used the app, I just used the web view which also blows.
strong willed…
You showed them. Keep it up
I saw this way before Reddit went batshit. I had the pride doge one, it was one of a couple of free ones.
Yes, Reddit is a shit show. But this isn’t a new thing they’ve just done. So I don’t know why it’s being brought up as ammo now. It’s been around for ages. Reddit are assholes, but bringing old stuff into this as if it’s brand new, not cool.
This is new because they removed the regular free icon and replaced it with an ugly pixelated one.
Wasn’t the original icon free though? Now you only get the pixelated one.
Yeah that’s the main thing, the original icon is now paywalled, with the idea being you get this crap looking one until you pay
If you told me reddit was just funded as a giant psychological experiment to see how much shit people will put up with to stay on social media, I might believe you.
Anyone brain dead enough to continue using that awful app is probably brain dead enough to pay for an icon.
What’s crazy is that there are hundreds of 5 star reviews for it on the Play store. People have no standards and obviously don’t understand that you can pick a number of stars in-between 1 and 5.
I think it was already confirmed that reddit paid for five star reviews a couple of weeks back.
Google when someone pays for good reviews: 😴
Google when people are upset at change and rightfully give a negative review: 🤬❌ (mass delete all negative reviews)
Oh I love that every lemmy post is about reddit it’s so new and cool to be part of this (NOT)