Whiney voice: “But I want my workers to worship me!!”
– some boss, probably.
It’s not a show of courage to stay at a job you’ve committed to working, nor is it boot licking. It’s plain and simple economic necessity and whether you like it or not you’re going to end up working for someone else no matter what job you have, whether it’s in healthcare, education, science, or even as an independent artist.
It IS weak and soft to quit a job just because it places demands on your time and expectations that you’ll actually do the job during the required hours with the required professional attitude. You’re most likely never going to find a job where you have total control, can come in whenever you want, do whatever you want, don’t have to do anything to earn a paycheck… that’s a fantasy and not the reality of the world we live in.
what’s wrong witth being soft
Go ahead and be that way and see how far you get in life. If this was a fantasy world made of unicorn farts and marshmallow fluff, being soft would make perfect sense. But it isn’t, and the real world is full of demands, unfairness, and expectations. You don’t have to meet any of them, but don’t complain about your life in a cardboard box under the overpass - because that’s on you.
Go ahead and be that way and see how far you get in life.
Better things are possible. We create our world, there is no reason it has to be as uncaring as it is. And the only way to make a change for the better is to abandon your way of thinking.
The idea that your create your world with unfettered freedom and no restrictions is a false notion. This isn’t a world where you can do whatever you want however you want, and people will throw money at you for being that way. As nice as it would be to live a totally free life where you get paid just to be you - that isn’t the reality of human societies.
I’m not one to balk at the notion of rocking or shaking up the status quo - god knows I’ve done my fair share of that, just today I had a volatile (and very angry) letter printed in our paper condeming book banning and the idiots who condone it - not that that will change anyone’s mind.
But I’m saying you also have to be realistic and face the fact that no one is going to pay you to sit on your bum and play video games all day (in all likelihood). The world you want to live in is bounded by the stark facts of economic necessities and social pressures.
The idea that your create your world with unfettered freedom and no restrictions is a false notion.
Good thing I didn’t say that then.
But I’m saying you also have to be realistic and face the fact that no one is going to pay you to sit on your bum and play video games all day (in all likelihood).
Who said anything about that?
The world you want to live in is bounded by the stark facts of economic necessities and social pressures.
Except economics is not “facts”, it’s a way of organising that we have the power to change. Specifically referring to economics, the world is the way that it is because some people want it to be this way, it is not a fact of nature.
I really could not care less, you think whatever you want to. I’ve got better things to care about.
I really could not care less
Clearly, because you didn’t even care enough to read what I originally wrote.
I’ve got better things to care about.
Go do so then.
The ability to own a home
Ah yes, let me lick boots for the next 30 years to have enough to put down on a home and then continue paying off the mortgage until I die
That doesn’t show shit but the ability to take it up the rear for financial goals.
Yugopnik being based as always
So that they can take their kids to the doctor.
Medicare For All would go far to stop that.
It is time to stop letting your boss hold your child’s healthcare hostage.
Amazing how everyone gets so mad at the government providing it instead of only having it because your boss felt gracious enough to not provide the worst possible options for insurance
Or the insurance company fucks up giving you the wrong plan and do a switcheroo last minute. Right before the short enrollment period, your boss is looking into why they are paying more for employee insurance than expected and find out more than half of the staff is on the wrong plan. Then the insurance company tries to recoup the cost from providers putting the employees on the hook for the difference even though it wasn’t their mistake to begin with.
The problem here is that the employer somehow likes this specific insurance company(coughkaiser) and they seem to like punishing people going out of their network.
America needs to face the mess that is employer provided insurance.
Narrator: Nobody realized it WAS the worst insurance until they required it in an emergency
Nah they knew, just was their only option. At least aca forced them to actually cover things instead of it being insurance in name only.
Not that it’s better now but it was so much worse
I had a colleague who loved to opine on a bit of everything including “millennials”. He was talking about “soft resignations” and explained them succinctly as “it’s when you’re annoyed that you’re overlooked at work so you don’t put any extra effort in don’t work any extra hours and only do the minimum and then wonder why you don’t get promoted”.
It was hilarious but sad how he could just so utterly fail to grasp the point that to me was just staring him right in the face as he struggled to explain. He’s an okay guy really, and it’s just a shame that his penchant for everything to fit in to nice neat stories with conveniently stupid straw men to beat in each of them really gets in the way of him having any more than the shallowest understanding of the people and world around him.
Some people just don’t want to climb the ladder anymore. I’m not soft resigning or quiet quitting by doing exactly my job description and nothing more - I’m settling and content.
I wish this wasn’t such a foreign or bad concept to those in business.
i’ve never understood the corporate ladder, my goal in life is to work as little as possible while having enough income to live as enjoyable a life as possible.
I wouldn’t put it that way. Seems overly pessimistic. I enjoy my work. That’s part of the reason I don’t want to climb the corporate ladder. It doesn’t take long before your day is less work than meetings.
But if you don’t set some boundaries, they’ll gladly consume your entire life and not even notice. If you have to tell them a reason you can’t be available at 6pm today, there’s already an issue.
You don’t climb the ladder by working hard these days.
Honestly, this is just contracting 101. If we squint really hard and imagine our W2’s as 1099’s, the problems practically leap off the page.
My experience in the corporate world has been that working hard, overachieving, and putting in long hours only results in getting more work assigned and those extra hours to become expected. No rewards or recognition or anything beyond more work, and getting negative reviews scores when you stop putting in extra hours and just work 40 a week.
My wife and I were discussing how she has worked hard all her life and tried to be a model employee everywhere only to be accused of embezzlement when others stole from her till (and were eventually caught) and casually dismissed and insurance cut off after a lifetime of paying into it. I have dealt with the same sort of treatment when working for others. We’re both honest people and naively thought that work was rewarded. It is not.
Either work for yourself or dont work at all. Also, disability insurance and SS are a fucking farce so cover your own ass and quit giving the government your money.
Either work for yourself or dont work at all. Also, disability insurance and SS are a fucking farce so cover your own ass and quit giving the government your money.
How is any of this optional?
I think they assume that you follow their advice and are now “working for yourself”, which I assume to mean create your own business such as a consulting company, a store, etc. With that assumption, and this is obviously not legal advice, I believe, in the US, you don’t have to contribute to social security if your business has under a certain number of employees. I also think not all states require disability insurance under similar business size limits (this one I am less sure of).
the real solution is to unionize
Also, disability insurance and SS are a fucking farce so cover your own ass and quit giving the government your money.
Yikes. For anyone looking into it. https://ssabest.benefits.gov/
In 2023, an average of almost 67 million Americans per month will receive a Social Security benefit, totaling about $1.4 trillion in benefits paid during the year.
PDF Warning: https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factsheets/basicfact-alt.pdf
Yikes Fun fact: not enough to survive, and applying without being denied and being forced to hire law firms is the norm, not the outlier. By contrast that same government blew nearly 20 trillion on principle and interest for wars with no benefit to any American people. Meanwhile one party is actively working to eliminate all SS and disability insurances since it’s already crippled this far.
Yikes Fun fact: not enough to survive
It was never meant to be. It’s supplemental income. The government has always expected people to be able to ‘save’ somehow or also pay for injury insurance. Hence supplemental income. Unfortunately the vast majority of disabled people often never had great resources to begin with.
The maximum payout is also loosely scaled to Federal Poverty Levels which can be woefully low depending on the Cost of Living in most areas. It was also not meant to support an entire family, it was meant to support 1 person.
In 2023, the estimated average Social Security disability benefit for a disabled worker receiving Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) is $1,489 per month
One day, our whole economy is going to collapse, and we wont have anyone to blame because everyone was just living their best life. Smash that like button if you are fighting for 8 hour work weeks, unlimited PTO, free housing and no taxes.
Only dumb people want no taxes. The rest like their society to be non-anarchy thank you very much.
Good fuck the economy it only serves the rich
Boomers say that shit because back when they were young, you could actually advance by working hard in a shitty job. Of course, they pulled the ladder up once they got to the cushy positions.
Yup. The guy who came to america to mow lawns is definitely killing it because he had it easy. Or maybe the guy who came to work in a field… or in a car auto manufacturer… wait that went out of business… hmmmm oh yes the guy who is now a manager at your local burger king, yeah he had it easy. Fuck him. The median wage across the US is 54k though so maybe its only some select people.
54k is barely a living wage these days. You CAN live on it, but you can’t expect to start a family or buy a house or achieve anything resembling The American Dream.
Im replying to your blanket comment that boomers in general have it easier which they absolutely dont. You like to cherry pick the happy ending stories where boomers sit on their manegerial high chairs like crying babies and choose to ignore that MOST people are struggling right now, boomer or not. Dont discredit hard work.
The boomers had everything easier than we do today aside from the ability to gather information. This ability, by the way, is how we know they had it easy. They’re the true participation trophy generation, and honestly it’s hard for me to tell the difference between a boomer and a high end projector, since they both only do the same thing, it’s just the projector has inherent value.
You want to live the official lifestyle your grandparents had? Move to Mozambique and dont look at the internet for 30 years. They are just starting to move to first world status (50 years ago) can get that good old fashioned projector/participation trophy you dream of. I am sure you can easily work your way to the top.
Oh, Mozambique? The Mozambique that is “disappearing” journalists who try and investigate the dirty “counter-insurgency” operation happening in the north of the country because the Moz government is intent on allowing Total to loot it’s energy reserves at the expense of the local populace?
Yeah, Clyde… that sounds totally 1st world to me. Totally not a country still at the beck and call of the Global North’s exploitation at all.
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Thanks for the advice. I actually have low sodium so my doctor prescribed the opposite of this already. Suck my dick bud, you can get your low sodium that way
I’m sorry did I miss the headline where Mozambique’s previous generation came out on top after a globally devastating world war, and they had a bunch of fat happy peacetime babies, propelling their now-boomed population to an economic superpower status where there’s so many jobs and hard work is rewarded with fair pay for a balanced family life? Are they about to invent another Internet?
Are their families just trying out and starting up businesses? Can their kids save up for a brand new car by working at the local factory or restaurant?
Wowee it’s amazing the gems you can find on this planet if you look hard enough!
The only notable Mozambique that comes to mind is the one that would make sure these neo-gilded-age crapbags stay down after selling all of us out, generation after generation, including poor boomers who didn’t get so lucky.
Im replying to your blanket comment that boomers in general have it easier which they absolutely dont.
Maybe some boomers don’t now, but relatively speaking they absolutely DID have it easier when they were my age.
Dont discredit hard work.
I’m not discrediting hard work. I’m simply stating the fact that “hard work” 50 years ago was apparently worth more than “hard work” today.
The person you’re replying to used to be named PatFussy.
I wouldn’t engage with them if I were you. They cleaned up their act a little bit with the new handle, but they still just routinely say dumb shit.
Lol wow i say things not in your dickass b cluster club and so i should be avoided. Congratulations, you have officially had your first dialogue with someone outside of your bubble. I bet you would rather I name myself xXx420KillAllPolice69xXx am i right? Smash that bell icon for more racist bullshit takes.
Depends on where you live. Some parts of America are dirt cheap, including housing. Although those areas typically have shit wages too.
Dirt cheap places have dirt cheap wages.
Shit wages, shit school systems, shitheel neighbors. Like I said, far from the “American Dream”.
Yep you definitely answered it right there.
Sure it’s cheap, but there’s no local opportunities and might be a desert for quality food. Much of rural United States is still not covered by (reliable / affordable) broadband, either.
Back then it was called “a fair days work”.
It hasn’t been “fair” for a long time.
What’s that I hear, you don’t want to be on call after hours for no extra pay?
Sounds like you’re not much a team player. And only team players get to work here.
We’re a faaaaaamily here.
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“We WoRk HaRd AnD pLaY hArD”
Where does the play ever come in and wtf does this even mean.
Being on call with a random schedule AND winning the company softball game? No can do, chief.
We should change the saying to “Work hard, Pay hard”
If I get a PhD (which I have to pay for) and work for twenty years in my job, my salary caps out at ~60k.
What field? That’s wild to me, and horribly unjust.
Teaching.
I’m sorry to hear that, education is absolutely criminally undervalued by society.
And boy oh boy, does it show. :(
If you’re that qualified you should look at immigration as an option. Where I live, the base salary is $78k for a bachelor degree qualified teacher and goes up to $140k if you take on head of department roles. If you don’t it caps out at a few grand less. We’re currently in a teacher shortage too.
Be warned though, this is in Australia so the cost of living does suck a bit. You still are probably not affording buying a house on this.
There are some people complain, very loudly, when others fail to validate their life choices.
I’ll add that the pandemic did a lot to change baselines, priorities, long-range thinking, and more. Basically, a watershed moment for millions of people. The kind of thing that causes a lot of change, social, economic, and otherwise. The kind of thing that scares people who can’t cope when society seems to change shape overnight. The article is one of those things.
They say that with the same energy that a slasher villain has when he cusses you out for hiding from him
Resilience is an attribute. Salf-sacrifice for the kids or the home is admirable.
Did you just not make that leap?
I think that if the kids love their parents, they would want them to be happy, and they would want to be able to see them and spend time with them.
I understand breaking your back to put your kid through college, but if your work-life balance is so bad that you never get to spend any time with them while they’re growing up, how much are you actually helping them? That’s not even going into the resentment that the parent builds up for all of the sacrifices that they feel they have to make.
I can see where you are at. For those who have kids.
Salf-sacrifice for the kids or the home is admirable.
“Hey kids, aren’t you so proud of your old man? Look at what a shnook he is, breaking his back so his bosses can pad their accounts?”
Self sacrifice? For what? There are no homes, sant even afford to feed ourselves currently. Millennials are the largest working generation and yet the poorest working generation since 1920.
Sure. Every kid needs a parent they never see because they work all day in a minimum wage job
are you that short sighted to believe that ‘sucking it up for the kids’ is really going to be better for the kids in the long run? or do you still believe trickle down economy is gonna save the future?
did you just not make that leap?
As unfortunate as it is, some people really don’t have a choice. My dad, for example, gets paid something like 30 an hour, but his job absolutely sucks. He wants to quit, but he knows he can’t find a job that will pay the same, especially with how old he’s getting.
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Unionize, don’t be alone, get support, and be supportive
This is where I am in life also. Trust me, it sucks.
Lol, Ok Zoomer! By that rationale I guess being a slave back in the day was not “tough”.
As if compensation has to do with whether a job is tough or not.Just because leaving a job shouldn’t be considered soft doesn’t mean people with no choice but to stay with a job are soft.
It also doesn’t mean people who stick with a job because they consider the benefits and risks of quitting soft.
Exactly, I’m glad you get it. Op, and anyone whinging about, “…oh no a Boomer said I’m soft!” is in fact, who soft. Everyone else doesn’t sweat such viral, divisive, Facebook catch phrases. They just get on with their lives.
You could stick around and try to start a union at your job
Weird fantasy I have is joining a really crappy job and just causing trouble.
Like I have a full time job. But I wonder if I should apply to Walmart, work incredibly half-asssd, and then just actively push a union.
There are unions that have hired folks in the past to do exactly that. I believe it’s called “salting.” Either way, it’s doable.
As unethical as that sounds, it also sounds amazing.
Less unethical than the union busting. So I wouldn’t worry one bit.
Ok c’mon let’s have some fun.
How would you cause trouble and balance it in a way that doesn’t get you immediately fired (or arrested)?
I share the same idea hahaha. If only you weren’t forced to keep it up for entire 8+ hour shifts…
I wanted to do this, but they literally kept me so separated from coworkers, we barely knew each other. The only other person in my dept was my supervisor, and across the room you could feel him tremble at the mention of “management”, and could smell the boot polish on his breath.
Tell me THAT wasn’t on purpose.
