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I recently cancelled all streaming services I had.
I now use Plex / Jellyfin with Plex_Debrid & RealDebrid.
- Total cost - $3.00 per month (RealDebrid)
Good choice
Is there a good tutorial on how to set up plex? I’m so done with streaming services.
Ditto. I’m on Kodi / The Crew + Real Debrid. Such a pleasure to use.
Do debrid services even seed back?
From what ive been reading it seems that they just don’t.
That’s a great question. I believe it does
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Yes! Plex_Debrid is the automation component that will go and add the torrents to RealDebrid based on your Watchlist in Plex. The Plex_Debrid Github has a step by step guide on setting each component up.
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Does this stream the torrent or does it steam just from my debris account?
It downloads the torrent and then streams from the service. That way your traffic is clean.
What’s realbird? Like a seed box?
Yep!Correction. I guess it is a bit different than a seedbox (I’ve never used a seedbox)
Here is what I found online:
- A Debrid service has support for multiple premium file hosts, while a Seedbox does not
- A Debrid service, once it completes a torrent download, will stop seeding, while a Seedbox seeds a download forever until you stop it from seeding (hence the name).
- Some Debrid services, such as Premiumize, can seed for a certain amount of time.
- A Debrid service is usually cheaper than a Seedbox.
RealDebrid not only allows you to download but also stream directly from them. I use rclone to mount the drive to my media server and read the files with Plex/Jellyfin.
Ah ok so it’s a bit different setup but basically like Plex + seedbox and + rr suite
Sounds like a bad idea…
Looks like they’re trying the new twitter and reddit strategies. FOMO is real!
It’s like all the CEOs decided “we’re doing ok, but I want a legacy. Today’s the day I’m going to burn this place to the ground, and refuse to admit I was wrong”
Is a result of the massive shift in the economy over the last year. Lots of these tech companies were built on the back of the historicly low interest rates since 2008 meaning people saw better returns on investment than saving so there’s money at anything. With the interest rates shooting back up, it’s now the other way around so these companies need to be making much more profits and paying out much bigger returns to keep investors interested rather than just sitting on their hordes like Scroge McDuck.
I agree and I don’t think they are equipped to deal with the future economy. Web 3.0 is going to level these assholes and it’s going to be glorious. I see a future without these tech giants. I can’t wait to watch them all implode.
FOMO?
Fear Of Missing Out
How does this apply to this situation?
They mean it sarcastically. FOMO on fucking up spectacularly
They’re forcing me away everytime they make a decision. I’ll stick with paying for a plexshare, I know I can get it for free elsewhere, but I can’t be arsed messing about if there’s shit links.
Wasn’t plexshare that led to a lastpass employee getting keylogger on his system and then attackers getting the full download of vaults.
This is just going to push more people to piracy.
Already done it for me
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It’s funny how these things go.
Long ago, you would need to buy or rent your movies, because other options weren’t really very convenient or effective. Then the internet became fast enough for you to use DC++ and later torrents to get all the movies you would ever want to see. Next, streaming services became popular due to convenience, ease of use and affordable prices.
What’s going on today? Streaming services are increasing prices and reducing convenience. Seems like the balance of power is tipping again.
And meanwhile extremely convenient piracy options have cropped up, like, just as convenient as real services, if not more because all the content is in one place.
Hell many people even use paid piracy services.
Not me though, I’ll suck my dad before I pay for piracy.
I won’t pay for piracy as they if they share content they could share payment details.
Also volunteer to suck dad 👋🏼
They started to enforce the multi home rule on my account, so I cancelled my subscription. I think I had the account over 10 years. I was barely using my account anymore, so I don’t miss it that much.
Same here. I feel bad for my family who was using my account (and has less disposable income) but they have access to our Plex now so win/win.
Don’t you need a lot of upload speed for Plex etc to work?
If you have fiber, 99% of the time your speeds are symmetric.
Yea sadly I have fiber at 100down and 10 up. And from what I can tell, I need faster upload to stream anything to anyone. And yes, this is the best option available.
That can’t be considered fibre than can it? Fibre is generally 1gup/down atleast in my city.
Fibre is just the medium of transmission, the ISPs can throttle it however they want.
I saw the actual fiber spools they rolled out. It’s a fiberoptic cable. I just live out in the country and the other option is LTE4. The DSL company basically quit selling it, and it was slower than LTE4.
Depends. For example a large ISP will have generous up/down speeds within the same city for customers on its own infrastructure so maybe that helps. You can of course transcode to less quality.
All of these internet corporations really thought they were institutions that could not be rattled. They forget that in the grand scheme of things they have been around for no time at all and consumers will be happy to move to whatever comes along next.
They haven’t forgotten anything. What we are seeing now is simply the result of climbing interest rates and the loss of cheap debt forcing companies to actually become profitable by any means necessary.
I cancelled when they jacked up their prices and announced the ad-supported tier. They’ve been nothing but anti-consumer the last couple years and their product just isn’t worth the price anymore.
I hate Netflix as much as you guys do and I think their content is dogshit, but you’re naive if you think they’re going under any time soon. Their revenue increased from the password sharing ban crap, and it’s likely only like 1% of people used the 720p plan anyway. Netflix is ass but financially they’re chillin.
And what is the price? I think it’s like $16 CAD a month or so? So the price of a movie ticket and not even enough for a small popcorn. I find it a bit overreacting that people act like that’s way too expensive for what you get out of it. Used to be that I’d spend way more than that for a TV show season on DVD that I’d finish in a week.
I’m not saying this is a good move. But the folks vowing to only ever pirate because a month of content costs about as much as my local hourly min wage seems a bit much.
I still pay for NF and will probably keep paying for it in the foreseeable future. There is some local (Thai) content on it that my partner wants to watch. Content on any of the other services is too little to even bother with.
I pirate whatever looks interesting and isn’t on NF.
Yeah I don’t think anybody knows, but I think it’s only a matter of time and you can only rely on brand recognition and momentum for only so long before people realize that there are better services for them that don’t actively strip away the shows and films you love while treating you like an asshole. There’s just too much competition and it’s not stopping any time soon and a ton of people are actually paying a closer attention to their monthly fees and tightening the purse strings.
They probably won’t go out of business tomorrow or a year from now, but maybe 5 years and likely in the next 10. They just don’t have the same cultural cache as it did even a couple years ago. What did they even release that everybody knows about past The Tiger King and Squid Game which was years ago at this point other than like Wednesday. Better Call Saul ended last year. What do they have? Korean soaps, The Witcher without Henry Cavill and a creepy French movie about little girls twerking?
They have a ton of reality tv dogshit content that a ton of female subscribers love lol. Personally i hate it but i bet all of our gfs/wives love that shit. Unfortunately you should expect all of the streaming platforms to lean into that bullshit, especially with the writers strike. It will be interesting to see how many people cancel their plans once all of the good shows dry up due to the strike. We are going to be in a content desert for like 2 years at least.
Edit: lol why the actual fuck was I down voted? For criticizing Netflix? Huh??
I’d say a great time to catch up on older shows, but I know that’s both not popular and for some reason streaming services are removing older shows.
Netflix has some GREAT older shows. The problem is I have already watched most of them. The good thing is that I probably will watch many again (and again) every so often. They do still trickle in some new content worth watching. The very best thing about netflix and the reason I really hope they stick around is that the interface and presentation is totally USER oriented. Subtitles and skip intro/recap are top-notch (compare with amazon :/) and there are ZERO ads before/after/within the content. When I am already paying $, I hate being blasted with ads for other shows but it really burns my biscuits when I can’t skip that crap!
People probably didn’t like your reality TV comment but it’s true my wife watches that shit lol
Why are people upset with that comment? A lot of girls and women watch reality TV. I thought that was obvious…Reality TV’s main target audience is females. I’m not trying to be disrespectful or anything lol. It’s just an objective fact.
Because this site is full of people who are very left wing and get upset at the most minor things lol it’s pretty funny, I get downvoted a lot it assures me that my opinion is correct and these idiots in here are living in la la land
It was inevitable after the response to Netflix’s crackdown on account sharing and progressively higher prices.
That was a critical moment for the users to exercise their leverage against a new, worse direction in the value of streaming offerings, but the general user lacked the foresight to understand that.Now that it’s been proven that the general user will maintain their subscription even after such drastic changes in value, the trend of a loss of flexibility in tier options, the inclusion of ads in more, if not all, tier options; multi-month subscription requirements, and the complete loss of account sharing will all continue, not only in Netflix but accross all the streaming industry as a whole.
Ads is my line in the sand. They bring in ads on my tier (HD 2 connections) and they’ll be dropped in a flash.
The streaming market was good when Netflix were pretty much the main game in town and had most of the content.
I don’t want to pirate. But I also don’t want a huge monthly bill for multiple services with multiple interfaces to get still less content. I kept Netflix around but any shenanigans that effect me and I’m out.
For those looking for alternatives, I would only suggest Plex if you’re OK with hitching your wagon to a different company with interests possibly competing with your own. Its great software and easy to set up but they can remove features you like and use at any time. It may be a risk worth taking for you but go into it with eyes open. I dropped them when they removed photo sync and started getting more aggressive about their content offerings.
Jellyfin is my current home and I like it a lot but I recognize that not everyone wants to deal with the setup and troubleshooting.
For some middle ground, there’s also Emby which is a commercial version of Jellyfin.
I like Jellyfin but I do not like the way it shitted up my media directories. I have them meticulously sorted. I don’t want images and database shit in them. I much prefer how Plex keeps its database and metadata separated and in its own directory. I would otherwise love to switch.
You should use jellyfin in docker and mount your media files without write permissions. It’s exactly what I do partially for this but more to ease maintenance and reproducing my server.
My media box runs Windows 10 but I’ll be converting it to Linux eventually. My main PC is Linux but I am a newbie. If you could, tell me what docker is.
Docker is a container framework. Basically a recipe for a piece of software or a service. All you have to do is download a docker container image (there’s numerous one pre prepared for stuff like qbittorrent or sonarr or jellyfin) and you need to mount (basically reference) your media or configuration directories into the container. By default each container is basically it’s own self contained os (like a vm, but much more efficient). This prevents services from stepping over each other and aids composability because if you’re interested in something new like bazarr literally all you have to do is pull an image and configure it. There’s also something called docker-compose which let’s you put all that configuration for your services into a readable yaml file and then you can just move it from machine to machine to setup or transition.
Note. You can use docker on windows but it’s much more efficient on actual Linux. Windows just runs a pseudo Linux VM for docker support. The real thing is always better.
+1 for Jellyfin. GPL licensed software so nice.
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Looks like the basic tier was already shrinking anyways as people were opting for the ads option more and more, so they decided to nix it anyways to make their own lives easier.
Makes sense, its 1 less “mode” to support and that is a big deal for QA testing.
Aye ye scallywags! T’night we sail the seven seas!
Seems like all these companies are following the airlines model to becoming profitable. Make everything as miserable as possible for all your customers, and make them pay extra for a basic experience. Things that used to be included like meals or being able to sit with the rest of the people you are flying with are now exorbitantly expensive.
That’s cool. I’m happy to never use these services ever again. I cancelled my sub years ago and so far I’ve had zero reason to return. Shit like this is just validation.
