Okay, we all need to prepare for the day that he escapes from hell. You know what’s going to happen, it’s been foretold. We need to get one of those books from Myst
No Thatcher? Come on, OP
Wait nvm she’s behind adolf
Thatcher was responsible for many societal ills, but she did at least provide a public, gender neutral toilet for all to use.
who is kissinger and why are all memes about him
He was the US secretary of state in the 1970s who finally died today after far too long living free. The 3 page rolling stone article is about as quickly as somebody could summarize his more notable war crimes. Admittedly the article is pretty biased, but also fuck hearing the other side of the story about a man responsible for so much death and pain.
Tldr: he extended the Vietnam war for about 5 years because it benefited him personally, he convinced Nixon to bomb Cambodia and laos which were not involved in any combat with us, he was involved in the coups that overthrew the democraticly elected governments of Peru and Argentina, he encouraged the use of nuclear bombs in battle on numerous occasions, and that’s just for starts. The rolling stone article claims he is indirecty responsible for about 4 million deaths. They don’t list the directly responsible number, but its likely in the one million range.
He committed war crimes and there are still people who look up to him
I don’t know how in the fuck people can look up to a war criminal
Society is fucked
I’ve already had to unfollow this account on Instagram
Also the entire “terrorists in the middle east” thing is on him.
Ehhh that’s kind of a stretch. Blaming all the shit in the middle east on one person or country really ignores the century+ of bullshit western powers enacted on that region
There’s much more to this ugly story, all available at your local library. It can’t be said to be the worst thing that Kissinger ever did — but as you remember the extraordinary bill of indictment for him, make sure to leave a little room for it.
https://theintercept.com/2023/11/30/henry-kissinger-israel-egypt-soviet-union/
Kissinger was deemed a controversial figure in the Arab world for his role in shaping US foreign policy, particularly towards the Middle East. For many, his actions fuelled instability, favoured strategic interests over moral principles and left a legacy of geopolitical manoeuvring at the expense of justice and human rights.
https://www.newarab.com/news/why-was-henry-kissinger-hated-arab-world
You are right, that it is not on him alone. But he still played a significant role
Oh yeah, he’s a massive chunk of the reason that almost everything is as fucked today as it is, I just think trying to pick a singular villain to blame any thing this big on ignores the systemic issues spanning decades that enables this
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Yeah it really makes one wish there really was a hell and not just total oblivion.
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Where’s Rush Limbaugh?
And reagan
Are you blind?
Apparently I am.
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Woah wait… Why is Confucius there?
Genuinely want to be informed here.
Genghis khan
Confucius is usually depicted with a black beard, that’s Genghis Khan.
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??? That would be more accurately describing Lao Zhu if you’re really willing to stretch your interpretations. I’m not sure how you get Machiavelli, Confucius is about as far away from realpolitk as it gets.
because Confucius isn’t as good a person (or ideology) as people seem to think, unless you are the current ruler, then it’s amazing
Have you read any of Confucius writings? Rulers actually have higher expectations for them than common folk. If a ruler doesn’t act properly and conduct the proper rituals, then their people can’t be expected either. I’m not sure how familiar you are with Confucian thought, I’m struggling to understand what you are basing that statement on.
“The Master said, "If the people be led by laws, and uniformity sought to be given them by punishments, they will try to avoid the punishment, but have no sense of shame.
“If they be led by virtue, and uniformity sought to be given them by the rules of propriety, they will have the sense of shame, and moreover will become good.”
“If they be led by virtue, and uniformity sought to be given them by the rules of propriety, they will have the sense of shame, and moreover will become good.”
I have no real context other than what is here, and maybe Frogfucius, and I’m not great at reading between the lines so bear with me, because that doesn’t seem so awful for medieval philosophy. Lead by virtue rather than punishment? Sounds almost enlightened.
I mean with the part about rules and propriety, it sound a bit like the Broken Window Theorem which has been shown to be a cover for racist policing, but it also came out in the 80s.
Anyway, I’m not Staning Confucius
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Not medieval, Confucius was writing in 500 BCE. I’m not staning Confucius, but he was far harsher on rulers than he was peasants. Rulers are supposed to act like rulers, if they want their people to follow. There are more restrictions on them - a bad ruler (not just bad as in ineffective or cruel, but sexual deviance or drunkeness) can cause droughts or other disasters.
and the joke is, who sets these traditions and rules? go a bit farther, and you learn the justification of these rules is “there wasn’t a natural disaster recently”
like sure there are stringent rules the leader must follow, but whatever the leader decides the rules should be is what even these rules are
Where is mother Theresa?
She’s taking the photo
The cheeky cunt! I hope she enjoys suffering. I’ve heard it’s beautiful.
I don’t understand how Henry Kissinger was left to live peaceably and undisturbed his entire life when he was committing such atrocities for decades. Why were the masses not tar-and-feathering him and harassing him with a bounty on his head, trained assassins not pursuing him all these decades?
Because those are the types actions of people who use hate as a tool (same as Kissinger did). You can ask the same about Trump and why he hasn’t been assassinated yet (I know, apples and oranges). But what I’m trying to say is that people who are against such attrocities usually don’t prefer violence as a means to any end. Just my opinion on the matter.
Who’s the bowl cut guy on the right? I recognize everyone but him (sadly)
Also damn, did not know about Confucius
It’s the piece of human excrement that killed my friend and nearly all of her 1st grade students at Sandy Hook Elementary.
I remember hearing about it on the news and I was in just… total shock for at least 10 minutes. I just stood there after hearing it on the news. It still spins my brain round how someone could be such an evil fuck.
Is that ajit pai? Lol
Scum of the earth
Who are the two youngsters behind him?
Sandy hook shooter Columbine shooter
It’s real fucking reddit brain to group all of these people together as equally bad.
I don’t think they’re all equally bad. They all just happen to at least have met the minimum requirements to rot in hell.
Did anyone say they were equal?
I would say killing net neutrality was easily as bad as what pol pot did /s
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I think it’s implying that his spot is ensured
It should be.
Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost
I would say I will be your guide, but I can not be fucked to do so.
Also I don’t give guided tours to alchemical white powder, don’t got the nose for it.
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What’s up with people on Lemmy describing everything they don’t like as Reddit or Reddit related?
Reddit is full of neolibs
I can’t think of anything more specifically “reddit brain” than lumping Ajit Pai in with Hitler and of the hundreds of school shootings including the one shooter that happened to be trans.
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I can’t think of anything more specifically “reddit brain” than lumping Ajit Pai in with Hitler and of the hundreds of school shooting…
Nobody said they’re the same, just that if hell exists they’d all be there. They’re all just famous horrible people that are popular to talk about online, that’s what they have in common.
… including the one shooter that happened to be trans.
You have a point there, that was certainly a choice.
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Communists describing liberals.
Who’s the guy on the left that looks like Asian Elon?
i have no clue what pol pot looks like but im going to guess pol pot
You got it. According to Google images, I’m not the first to make the resemblance.