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I guess they’re giving up on convincing people to download their launcher.
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Just Overwatch 2?
Looks like it’s a start of a selection of games. Given that they only make a few games, I read that as all our games.
Nah
People love a monopoly when it suits them
People love things that benefit them as consumers and hate things that don’t, end of
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“Steam should be the only game launcher I use”
I feel like a game being made available on an additional platform is like the opposite of monopoly. If steam paid Blizzard for exclusive storefront rights and you could only get the games on PC from Steam id be inclined to agree.
I’m ambivalent on console exclusives for this reason. It certainly drives sales for a console, but it’s so anti consumer
Apparently Steam is being sued for being a monopoly and abusing it, which is probably why they have to allow other companies games now.
Valve has like five games, and the hundreds of thousands of other games on Steam are from other companies, and they’ve had 3rd-party games since 2005.
Activision/Blizzard didn’t put their games on Steam so they can push their own store, it was to not make payments to a third party, and have high visibility of their own products (e.g. advertise CoD to Diablo players and vice versa). Of course, they miss out on the visibility of being on the largest game marketplace.
Correction: Activision)blizzard COULDN’T put their game on steam with their own store because of steams monopolistic TOS: which is what they got sued over.
EA have their games on Steam and Origin and have for years, Blizzard could (and will) have their games on Steam and Battle.NET. I’ve seen nothing to suggested they were unable to put their games on Steam, but rather decided it wasn’t in their interest, given Steam’s TOS and/or what they could gain from having their own marketplace.
Steam is being sued by Wolfire for antitrust, but there is no outcome in this suit yet. Unless you’re referring to a different suit I don’t know about.
Even if Valve loses this lawsuit, it doesn’t meant they have to allow any specific products from other companies on Steam. It just might mean a reduction in fees, or an inability to sign exclusivity deals (which are common across the industry, weather you like them or not, and I know I don’t). The Wolfire antitrust lawsuit is because they sell other companies games on Steam, to the point that they dominate the marketplace, not because they were stopping other companies from selling games on Steam.
It wouldnt be so notable if they just let me download the game by itself. If I have to download a fucking launcher every time then I want the games to be centralized atleast somewhat.
Seriously every fucking conpany a fucking launcher for a while there, even fucking bethesda had one.
I’m permanently annoyed with the launcher thing, too. I wish someone would come up with a software store app that 1) installed all the right crap so the game works right and 2) didn’t require you to open the app to open the game. Steam, for example, lets you install the game with a start menu shortcut, but if you don’t have Steam open, clicking on the start menu shortcut opens Steam first, then Steam launches the friggin’ game. Then there is the Bethesda launcher. Then Blizzard’s Battle.net launcher. There’s an Xbox launcher. Yadda yadda. I don’t know if their primary goal is monopoly as much as it is forcing you to open a program with a store in it so you see stuff to buy when you want to play a game. I think having a monopoly is secondary. Primary to them is forcing you to see that they have more shit for you to buy. I’m pretty sure Apple’s iTunes is the one that started it all. Let’s integrate shopping for music into the computer. Then, the phone. Now it’s not just music. It’s every friggin’ thing. People with shopping addictions must have a hard time if they’re also gamers or fans of other digital media.
I think you can choose your library as the startscreen when steam opens.
But I think you are right that the game should open without starting steam. I would guess it has something to do with DRM? because with GOG you can just download the game and start it from desktop without launcher.
Yes, your library can be the start screen when it opens. But first you must see the other window (that I always close without reading) telling you about today’s “special deal” or some game you might like to buy.
I doubt anyone will complain if Blizzard’s games are brought to other storefronts too.
I like Steam. Steam has the best features, best UI, good sales, and while they are not without faults (systems can stay unchanged for a long time!), they are run by a company that by and large respects its userbase.
I don’t mind if games are brought to Steam and any or all other storefronts. Put it on GOG, Windows Store, EGS, Itch.io, battlenet, Origin, Uplay… You name it, I approve of it going there also. If those other storefronts want me to use them, they need to provide a comparable or superior experience. GOG comes the closest, but its inability to get games in a timely or predictable manner, if at all, is too much of an obstacle for me.
best UI
Steam has one of the worst UIs I’ve ever seen lol. It looks and feels like a website from the early 2000s.
Functionality over form. This ain’t Apple
I find it infinitely more usable than all of the other storefronts I’ve used or seen. Interacting with my library is easy and straight forward. Buying games is easy and straight forward. When it opens I’m not inundated with ads for games I don’t care about, or ads at all.
Showing you games that are available on the store isn’t an “ad”. This mentality needs to go away. If you walk into a store, everything on the shelves isn’t an “ad”, it’s a product.
Steam is the best platform by far, and the only one with Linux support. It’s not Valve’s fault if other publishers aren’t even trying to make a good product.
Indeed! Monopolies are great. Why have five stores when you can have a one-stop-shop?
It is the capitalism that is wrong.
You could stop at five or six stores… or just one.
Just stop already with the “capitalism bad” shit. The only negative thing about Lemmy so far. In all systems its the people who ruin it. End of story.
But that’s the point…? Pretty much every economic or political system “works” In theory. Capitalism, Communism, Democracy, Dictatorship. What goes wrong is always the people.
Therefore, one should aim for a system where people have the least possible ways to screw everything up (not that I have a suggestion, sadly)
Pretty obviously trying to pull an “Apex Legends” to try and save the flailing Overwatch 2.
Link to original news source on Blizzard.com https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23982127/overwatch-2-coming-to-steam-on-august-10
Link to the Steam Page https://store.steampowered.com/app/2357570/Overwatch_2/
Finally, so much people will join, that I’m sure someone will fix the Proton bug where the mouse pointer loses focus and you have to tab out and back in to regain focus after respawning. Hell, there are so many heroes that don’t require precise aiming, that it would even make it a playable game on the Steam Deck.
It has been fixed in protonGE
Does valve ever merge commits from PGE ?
Glad they made this decision right after the worst patch in Diablo history
What happened with this Diablo patch? I’m skipping D4, but I love me some drama.
Same old story: buffs for the already-strong, nerfs for the fun stuff, kneecap progression and loot. All the stuff that pisses players off.
Diablo 2 is tied with “my favorite game I’ve ever played” and everything I hear about D4 makes me happy I skipped it. :c
Diablo 2 is my least favorite Diablo game, and you are right to skip D4 if you’re a massive fan of D2. D4 is much more like Diablo 1 and Diablo 3 had a baby.
Path of Exile may be up your alley tho! I strongly recommend that game for any D2 fan.
I’ve tried PoE! It was pretty good. Didn’t really scratch my itch, though. D2R was insanity good. I enjoyed D3 well-enough, but mainly at launch. Without trade and economy, I’m just decked out immediately and it gets boring.
Desperation
I love this! Finally there’s going to be actual statistics to see how much their games are actually dying.
You still have to use Battle.net, so that’s an absolute no-go from me.
Glad they’re giving folks options though.
You need a battlenet login, but not the launcher
Doesn’t the launcher also double as their anti cheat system? I thought the launcher also managed Warden
I don’t think so, but also I thought most of ow2 anticheat was serverside
Warden works on Battle.net the server not the launcher. Very few games have Warden.
The company that makes Doom lets you use steam and allows you to transfer your data.
Microsoft.
i’d be okay with having diablo on my steam library. too bad i bought them all on battle.net…
If it goes how Bethesda did you’ll migrate your library over
That’s what happened to Destiny 2 from battle.net to steam, expansions and all.
But different sitch I guess, Activision was selling the IP
Will it keep blocking Linux / Steam Deck users from playing, though?
Battle.net works pretty well in Linux at the moment.
What are you having issues running on Steam Deck? I got the Blizzard launcher working and have played OW1 and 2 successfully
I was under the understanding that Overwatch 2 had an anticheat that prevented Linux players from playing.
Not to my understanding. I was able to get it working just fine once Proton had a patch for it. There are a few guides out on YouTube, it’s not a terribly difficult process! Go 4 it :)
I wonder how this decision relates to the Microsoft acquisition.
Microsoft did go on the record saying that pulling Call of Duty from Steam was a mistake. Given that they also release their own exclusives on Steam, it’s clear they understand that, even if Valve takes a 30% cut, not releasing on Steam is almost as bad as not releasing your game at all.
Never touched my Blizzard Account again after the sexual harassment and paygap scandal.
I’ve put 15 years of lifetime into my druid… It still hurts a little because I’ve loved WoW for a long time.
So Blizz switching to Steam couldn’t interest me any less.
Same after they kowtowed to China about Hong Kong and Taiwan.
Ditto. I won’t even give them usage stats on games I had previously purchased. Nothing to take to the board and say “we have returning users that we hope to convert into sales!”
I’m not a hardcore gamer but I’m a fan of cloud gaming, first Google Stadia (rip) and later Gforce Now. And Gforce Now supports Steam games so the more games available in the Steam-catalogue, the better.
Well, not all Steam games. Funny thing is, launcher isn’t even totally the barrier to getting a game in GFN; UPlay and Epic have games available in GFN as well. Whenever I’m away from home and decide to use cloud, I mostly end up playing Ubisoft games through them.
Only OW2 for now, hopefully HS soon though.
