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I’m fine with three! Tent, Flashlight and Camera. That way I’ll have the easiest way out by being the sidecharacter who gets murdered during the exposition before it all goes to shit.
So many questions like is the bullets in the gun and gasoline in jeep and batteries in flashlight? Also if yes are there any sources for more consumables?
I mean it’s irl so whatever you think you can get
LOL, imagine thinking a motorcycle or jeep would do you any damn good (especially after the gas you can siphon from abandoned cars has gone bad), when what you really need is a bicycle. Bikepackers and touring cyclists will be the kings of the apocalypse.
I’d still say the Jeep is better shelter than the tent, though not as portable.
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The earlier in the apocalypse, the more panicking humans running around, so you’re absolutely correct there. Unfortunately, depending on where you live and how early you realize what’s happening, the roads might be utterly jammed with no hope of getting away from population centers. The bike would be less of a tank, but you’ll almost certainly make it farther - but is that any good? Unless you’re confident in your ability to go full bear grylls, it might be best to just hunker down and make as little noise as possible for that initial pandemonium.
I’d probably stay clear of basically anywhere that you’d wanna go in an apocalypse for those 72 hours, because everybody else has the same idea. Find somewhere with a second story, block or preferably destroy the staircase, and stay as quiet as possible while scavenging what you can.
Assuming best case scenario (a new jeep is shat into my driveway with a full tank of gas) I think the jeep is a MASSIVE boon. It increases movement ability and hauling capacity, and can be used to clear many obstacles you’d otherwise have to go around. Is its life finite? Yes, but it’ll give you that leg up at the start of the situation that may very well set you up for success long term.
and can be used to clear many obstacles you’d otherwise have to go around.
I’m having trouble imagining any obstacle a Jeep could clear that a mountain bike couldn’t, but no trouble at all imagining the opposite.
Anything blocking paths. Can’t move broken vehicles, downed trees, etc with a bike. Sure a bike can go around, but with a jeep, I can go through, and have space to haul a bike back.
There are diesel Kawasaki KLR motorcycles that will run on literally anything, not that they’re very fast but they would at least preserve your stamina for when you need it.
They’re also extremely robust and simple to repair.
The Jeep will break down before running out of gas anyways
The only correct answer here is:
- Jeep (mobility, storage and sleeping). Also height for scouting/shooting
- Machete - very useful for close combat and as a survival tool if you know how
- Ak47 (assuming ammo also provided). Excellent weapon, great range, stopping power and reliability, decent accuracy.
- Night vision - if you’ve used these you know they provide an immense tactical advantage and can act as a flashlight too.
All the rest are superfluous or easily buildable by yourself (eg water filter)
The only item here that will be remotely useful longterm is the machete. All the other items will run out of gas, ammo, and battery quickly.
An axe is more useful than a machete.
Sure. But they didn’t pick an axe, they picked a machete.
After 500km the Jeep is useless for mobility
Siphon petrol. Any tube will work for instance the wiper tube
Why not just take the vehicle you’re siphoning from then if they’re available?
For as much shit as they get, jeeps are designed to be more rugged than most cars. Probably trade it on once you find an actually rugged vehicle, but it’ll be a better choice than most cars you’d find, i imagine.
Ok then, six months max if you always manage to find gas (you’re not the only one around siphoning it)
If you are in a highly populated area, without a support group, a 500km drive may be just the ticket to get to a safer location.
You may also be shot up driving around, but we don’t know the details
Why? There’s effectively infinite cars and gas tanks are sealed.
I think an ev/solar setup would be better though. Use the jeep to find a house with solar and a battery then all you need is an ev and you’re laughing
Gas doesn’t keep, it turns to varnish, that’s why starting a weed eater after winter is a pain, the carb is clogged from old gas turning to schmoo
Nothing lasts forever. The utility you get short term from having transportation able to haul more than just yourself is IMMENSE for getting established.
Pistol.
End of list.
Jeep: unparalleled utility. It’ll die eventually, fuel is finite, but it’ll let me establish.
Shotgun: need a weapon, and while not the strategically beat weapon, I have an image to maintain.
Water purifier: water.
Machete: backup weapon, infinitely useful tool, more rugged than the katana.
I think this combination gives me a good shot at establishing a base of operations, securing the area, and settling for long-term. Between the jeep and the machete, most obstacles can be overcome, and scavenging is easier and quicker. Strategically, the crossbow is probably the best weapon just due to the reusability of the ammunition, but it’s not infinite and what you gain in that, you lose in ease of use, which is paramount in a stressful situation. Opting purely for usefulness, the pistol (assuming subsonic rounds and as quiet as possible) probably offers the best balance between reliability and forgivingness, but I like shotguns.
Water purifier is a pretty easy one. Gotta have water, and while most of that will come from rain or scavenging, there will inevitably be periods of literal draught. Finally, the machete. A knife, a backup weapon, a crowbar. Good for clearing small-medium vegetation. Honestly, the uses are limitless, perhaps second only to the jeep.
Honorable mentions:
Dog. If it’s pre-trained, top tier. If you have to train it, mid at best plus another mouth to feed.
Any other firearm: mostly preference, each has pros and cons
Body armor: depending on the zombies, top tier (walking dead style, feral gonna bite you zombies) or reeeally not useful (anything spread by spores, fumes, fluids, etc.)
Gas mask: invert the body armor.
Motorcycle: quicker, less utility than Jeep. I wouldn’t say it’s the worst pick
Everything else is either marginal utility at best (cb radio, NV goggles) or easy enough to scavenge (flashlight, first aid supplies, tent, honestly everything else on the list.)
Bro, it’s a zombie apocalypse, you can just walk outside and steal any car you feel like
It says outbreak, not apocalypse. They’ll still expect you to come in to work.
You will still need keys or a really old car that you can actually turn on with wires
Crossbow, respirator, fire axe, water purifier.
Crossbow can reuse ammunition as long as you can find your bolts, and improvising shitty bolts is simpler than anyvother ranged weapon.
If zombie plague is airborne, full mask respirator is gonna be essential.
Fire axe is a decent survival and breaching tool, not really considering it a weapon.
Water purifier essential so you don’t die of dysentery, or if the zombie plague is waterborne.
If it’s airborne you’re toast, you gotta remove it eventually
It being airborne doesn’t mean its in all air everywhere all the time.
Right but you don’t know the patterns, incredibly variable. Taking the mask to win on that condition is a total dice roll
Its a contingency, but if you need it, you really need it. I think I’d otherwise be fine with the other 3. My next choices are probably tent, body armor, first aid kit, flashlight, then NVGs.
A tent would be useful, but tents are super common, I can probably loot one from somewhere. My current neck of the woods it wouldn’t really be necessary though.
Body armor might help if I get surprised by one or two zombies and let me get away, but I reeeeally don’t want to be in melee with zombies. Even with body armor that could easily be a loss, especially if its not just one or two.
First aid kit is useful, but unless a tourniquet can prevent zombification, its mostly gonna be for mundane stuff, blisters, scrapes, strains, and sprains. They are also commonly available and should be lootable. If not, most of its contents are probably improvise-able.
Flashlight, genuinely useful but probably lootable, reliant on electricity, probably draws unwanted attention.
NVGs, are cool and probably slightly useful. Going on the offensive against either zombies or other survivors is not in my game plan, I guess they could help hunt.
All these seem to be somewhat limited in their utility. Whereas the respirator is either vital, or a light encumberance.
Machete, Water Purifier (provided it does not need electricity to work), German Shepherd and the tent. If the water purifier requires electricity, I’d opt for the body armor.
Stuff that requires fuel, electricity or ammo will become obsolete after a certain amount of time, so the flashlight, crossbow, motorcycle, chainsaw etc. only have limited use and become dead weight eventually. The first aid kit might help with “regular” injuries, but is likely useless against zombie bites getting infected with whatever virus is responsible for their mutation. The respirator mask is only useful if there’s something dangerous in the air, and will only stay useful until the filter gets too dirty / too old and needs to be replaced.
The reality is that every item is finite if you can’t maintain it. Some are naturally longer lived than others (machete, fireaxe) but require sharpening and will eventually break. The better metric is what kind of utility it provides during its life, with a second metric for how easy it is to maintain. Something like the Jeep may only get you a week of functional time, but it’s going to allow you to set up so much easier.
Probably the handgun, body armor, jeep, and flashlight. On the first few days the jeep will offer mobility and storage, while the flashlight is necessary for maximizing the search for gear. Handgun and body armor to give you an advantage over your fellow survivors. Then acquire a boat, food, containers, and other resources and become a pirate. I might consider a fire axe or crow bar necessary if everything wasn’t glass doors and easily breakable locks.
Machete
crossbow
body armour
night-vision.
Stealth, protection and silent defence.
Which four will I be least likely to kill myself by tripping over in the night?
Difficult to trip over the tent if you’re in it
I read Max Brook’s “Zombie Survival Guide” and “World War Z”. The choice is very clear for me. Armor, suppressed pistol, machete, purifier.
Is the German Shepard a rescue? Anyway that and the camcorder. I’m making cute dog videos
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Fast zombies or slow zombies?