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SADDAM HUSSEIN
Guy should have brought a fan
Are tight crannies like this not what drones were invented for? Do cavers not use mini robots to scout out ahead?
If you thought you knew the way I’m sure you wouldn’t use a robot. He took a wrong turn.
The word cranny sounds crass and vulgar.
I like it though lol
Some kind of endoscope would work, or hell, just a rock on a rope.
yolo
I don’t think those were widely used back in 2009 but he just accidentally went down the wrong pathway and he thought he was going into a chasm that opened up.
Fucked up cave stories? Fucked up cave stories.
This documentary by Internet Historian.
Someone hasn’t watched the latest hbomberguy video
I looked it up and it’s almost 4 hours long. I’ll be getting around to that I guess…
Yeah
He only talks about 3 youtubers in that video, no less.
4, if you can’t AVG,
Yeah, but AVGN himself didn’t actually plagiarize anyone, right? It’s the network in charge of his channel that did
Arguably yeah, but he’s still responsible for the content his channel produces.
most of the video is about someone else. the video is split into sections so you can get to the “cave story” section immediately if you’re curious about that part. that section is about 25 minutes and worth watching (although I’d say the whole thing is interesting anyway). the section starts around 1h25m if you can’t see sections for some reason.
if you still want a tldw: the entire “documentary” was plagiarized, almost word for word, including the narrative structure.
Here’s the original article he plagiarized. Definitely worth a read https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/544782/1925-cave-rescue-that-captivated-the-united-states-floyd-collins
Er… nope. The one on plagerism? YouTube has recommended it to me a couple of times. (I just watched the roblox off sound video the other day, though.) I guess I’ll put that on my short list. I assume I’ll find out that Internet Historian committed a lot of plagerism in creating that “Man In Cave” video I linked?
Well that sucks. Internet Historian’s entertaining, but I’m not going to be bale to feel good about watching his stuff if that’s the case.
Not just a lot of it: basically the entire thing was word for word lifted, followed by some really lazy find & replace
Pretty much that yeah
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Now imaging crawling into a cave, and being blocked by somebody else’s shoes.
Imagine dying in a place called Nutty Putty Cave.
Imagine your grave is named Nutty Putty Cave. They left his body in there.
Yoinky Spelunky
Cummy Caverns
This hole was made for me
That’s what she said
Just in case you’re not getting the reference, the full comic for your reading pleasure.
Keep that URL Blue. You will never be the same.
I’m not the only one who thought it was fucking hilarious, right? I know it’s supposed to be body horror, and I do generally find Junji Ito’s stuff goddamn disturbing and horrifying, but this is the first one I saw and it just looked so funny to me that all his other stuff caught me completely off guard.
Yeah, like all the elements are there its just doesnt hit the horror switch for me. Mind you im the type of person to be playing a horror game and my first reaction to a monster is to call it a bitch and hit it with a shovel.
In horror games, I always try to domesticate the monster by letting it follow me around the map without catching me. Then I have a buddy.
You know what weirdly does fill me with dread though? Space games. I played around with space engine and it doesn’t matter what I’m looking at or where I am, I am just super uncomfortable and want to stop. Those’re my horror games.
Of course this terrible thing again. Thank you anyway
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In fairness, after I got bottom surgery I got a lot of laughs with that line.
… drr drr drr …
Going spelunking? Whatever floats your boat
Crawling into a small crack? Dangerous.
But why the fuck did he go into it head first?
feet don’t have eyes
That was the only way.
He was trying to reach a particular place in the cave but wasn’t where he thought he was. Both the place he was trying to reach and the place he actually was, are extremely tight squeezes that are literally impossible to turn around in. The difference is, the place he thought he was, has a large cavern on the other end where you can stand up and turn around. Once he realized he wasn’t where he thought he was, his only real option was to move forward and hope it led somewhere with more room. Falling into the hole the way he did was largely an accident in pursuit of that goal.
If anyone wants some nightmare fuel, here’s what happened.
I searched for an watched a YouTube video about it…and I regret it immensely.
I can’t wait for someone in 2077 to make a documentary about this by plagiarizing an article that goes hour by hour.
That wouldn’t be very nova, choom.
I have a feeling that someone will later make a 4-hour-long video essay calling them out for it
Okay this is clearly referencing something. Who is it
Hbomberguy called out Internet Historian for blatant plagiarism.
Internet Historian of all people? Well damn :(
To his credit, this was the only found bit of plagiarism on his channel. The other channels he calls out are wayyyy worse. But it’s blatant word for word plagiarism.
Yeah, I was really disappointed to learn it too. It was blatant – the entire script is ripped from a well-written article about the experience, verbatim except for a few words swapped around.
So sad they were so close to saving him.
I know, if that rock hadn’t crumbled, he would probably have survived.
Here is a WTYP pod episode about caving in general, with a part on this accident in particular.
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TL;DW: Don’t go in the hole. When there’s a hole, don’t go in it
Thank you for making me claustrophobic in my biggest room.
Well then you dont wanna hear bout my recurring dream about being burried alive unable to move my arm enough to protect my face from the rats gnawing at me
This is reminding me, a few days ago I read an article telling the story of this guy who was trapped in a cave in Kentucky after rubble fell on his leg. This is the story: https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/tragedy-at-sand-cave.htm of Floyd Collins, though the article I read earlier was more engaging. Oh, may have been this article: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/the-1925-cave-rescue-that-captivated-the-nation/ar-AA1kZ7Es
YouTuber HBomberguy just released a video on plagiarism. Another well known YouTube video about that caving incident was wholesale stolen from an article about it (but I don’t think it was either of your articles.) Must be the “vaguely related to caving” time of the year!
Hey, you can name and shame, it’s alright. The video was the wildly popular Man In Cave, by the wildly popular youtuber Internet Historian. He wholesale ripped off Lucas Reilly’s Mental Floss article about the incident, pretended the video was taken down because of youtube’s famously awful copyright strike system, and then re-uploaded a hastily edited version that less obviously (but still obviously) rips off Reilly’s article.
Not surprising. I’ve been watching various relationship and psychology videos on YouTube and ran into a few which seem really sketchy… they’re very well written in English, all the imagery is people in Malaysia or something, it seems to be read by an AI, and there’s no writing attribution. Kind of suspicious.
The plagiarism case hbomberguy exposed is about a good production channel with millions of subscribers in collab with other larges channels
So specific it might be a past life/death experience.
Oh now why did you have to make that an option😭
Well. If it was and you are alive now. Perhaps this will help you let go and the dream will eventually stop happening.
God I hate the idea of that being your last days… Why do people just purposely wander deep into caves?
Honestly, they’re pretty neat. I’ve gone through tours of Mammoth Caves that require waivers, and they strongly recommend that you not take that tour if any part of you has a circumference of more than 42", because you won’t fit. There was a spot that was about 12" high, and 72-ish wide that you had to crawl through that took a sharp right; you had to take your helmet off to get through. But then you get out into this enormous cavern filled with rock formations that are seen by less 100 people/year.
But if I didn’t know that that crack was passable, that I’d be able to get through or get back out again? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck no.
Maybe it’s because I live in a place with a lot of earthquakes, but I think I’m good off putting my head between rocks that could slightly shift and obliterate me.
But I’m glad you enjoy it!
The Appalachian foothills in Kentucky are pretty geologically dead; there aren’t any fault lines anywhere close by. It’s about as safe as any cave network can be.
I do recommend going to that are and taking some tours, especially in the middle of summer where you can see the inversion layer where the air goes from being 95F to 60F. Even the fully-accessible tours that don’t go through any tight spaces are pretty cool.
I don’t mind going inside caves, I just won’t be squishing myself into any crevices that require me to take off my safety gear to get through.
Granted, if it shifts your safety gear likely won’t do shit but still. I’ll stay in the bit of the cave where I can stand, or at least crouch/crawl.
I like snuggling up with a good book
its fun
Who knows? Some people would crawl up their own colon if they could.
I know lots of people who crawl up their own ass
At least from this diagram it looks like he managed to get to the end.
That is not what it looked like at all, really. But yes. Dude super fucked up, and got an entire cave permanently shut down.
Well, the important thing is that he ruined potentially dying for nothing for everyone.
I mean, we do have an overpopulation issue… what’s a little bit of death by being trapped in a hole going to cause, really. They are helping us all!
Id rather solve the overpopulation issue with the forbiden fireworks.
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He most likely pissed himself on his face.
Who hasn’t been waterboarded with their own piss?
Ah but what if a nervous stomach (from being trapped upside down in the dark near death) provided some extra liquid for the water boarding
Clothes probably soaked most of it up.
Exploring a cave is great, but I sure as fuck wouldn’t try crawling down a tiny hole going down at a 70 degree angle. Some spelunkers are straight nuts though, like they get to the end of a cave and say “wow, the wind is whistling through here!” and try expanding small openings with a hammer and chisel or even explosives. I went caving one time in a well known but very long cave, with experienced people, and that was really interesting. When i got back I read my friend’s cave incident journal, which details all the rescues and deaths that happened in the last year, and it was… interesting. Shit like “oh, jimmy got stuck, so we had to break his ribs to get him out”. Great.
I’m slightly claustrophobic, but it has never impacted my life. Elevator? Fine. Tiny closet? Fine. But a cave where you have to crawl for more than a few seconds? I’d die right there.
That’s what Alice from Alice in Wonderland did.
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According to Wikipedia:
Jones and three others had left their party in search of “The Birth Canal”, a tight but navigable passageway with a turnaround at the end. Jones entered an unmapped passageway which he wrongly believed to be the Canal and found himself at a dead end, with nowhere to go besides a narrow vertical fissure. Believing this to be the turnaround, he entered head-first and became wedged upside-down.
Yeah…I’m OK with going my entire life without doing any of that.
We had some interesting times on the one expedition I did. It was fascinating and I would recommend trying it at least once… doesn’t have to be dangerous. Even going to Carlsbad Caverns, which is a National Park and while not the real spelunking experience, pretty cool. I went to Wolf River Cave in Tennessee. Most of it was just like mountain hiking, but with a ceiling. Questionable parts included crawling in light mud on our hands and knees for 600 feet through an area where the ceiling was about 3 feet high. Also one part, you go through a ‘door’ and have to drop down ~5 feet onto some rocks… people told me “be sure to go left when you land!!” and wtf was to the right? This giant dark pit of rocks at least 20 feet deep. Okay… then at the very bottom, there was this area with a bunch of trickling water and awesome stalagmites where you could sit on rocks by this weird little stream and ponds. We split up and sat in different rooms… the guy from Kentucky I sat with, who I’d never met before, told me “sometimes when I’m down here… i listen to the water… and it sounds like people talking…” Uh, okay.
But anyway it was an amazing experience and profoundly strange… the ‘rooms’ and ‘hallways’ are oddly reminiscent of human construction. And if you get stuck or hurt, if you’ve done things properly and signed in and people know you’re there, experienced cavers will come and rescue you.
“sometimes when I’m down here… i listen to the water… and it sounds like people talking…” Uh, okay.
This is perfectly normal when you’re alone in a quiet place.
“sometimes when I’m down here… i listen to the water… and it sounds like people talking…”
He probably has MES, Musical Ear Syndrome. I got it, it’s really not as scary or weird as it sounds. Basically our brains mistakenly interpret some white noises (running water is a big one) as faint music or voices. But it’s not really a hallucination, because at the same time our brain is aware it isn’t real and it’s just coming from said noise. It can actually be quite pleasant, beaches often sound like a quiet symphony. Only occasionally will I hear voices and mistake it for my girlfriend or something before realizing it.
My brain starts playing the theme to Super Mario Bros when I stay up really late.
