[email protected] - Oh my gosh I just figured it out.
Okay, all you open source evangelist people: your knee-jerk reaction to come at people who are talking about a problem with whatever commercial software they use and suggest Your Favorite Alternatives™ is exactly like saying “why don’t you just buy a house?” to someone complaining about their landlord.
[email protected] - Actually, to borrow from @DoubleA, it’s worse than that.
It’s like talking to someone who is in a crappy apartment as though they have the agency and skills to stake out a plot of land and build their own home.
You have to be at peace with the fact that some people just want to exist and not worry about so many things. And they still have a right to complain about their situation.
Link to thread: https://mas.to/@TechConnectify/111539959265152243
That makes no sense. I think he should use home assistant for his home automation.
Are you trying to gather a lynch mob here? I think posts like these are quite bad taste. Most wont have a good understanding of the situation.
Does this really fit this community?
Is there a community where a take like this would be considered and welcome? Asking because I would like to follow that community…
same tbh
I agree. As inaccurate as Technology Connection’s statement is, this post here is kind of…distasteful.
I think it’s a discussion worth having, since it’s clearly a recurring problem.
with all do respect, what discussion can we have here other than dunking on technology connections with an out of context post that misses the second post that clarifies what hes actually saying?
When I say to my sister “I will literally buy the house for you, help you move in, and give you my phone number you can call any time you need any help with it” and she comes back with “I’d rather sit here and complain about my landlord” I think I have a right to get angry
you have to admit this is one hell of an edge case. the vast majority don’t have your sister’s ‘problem’
I think the majority of us also don’t want to play tech support.
the sword is double edged, the ones you neglect will come to you when it gets bad.
Which is why me and people like me don’t care much what our relatives use :D
You haven’t seen the FOSS community then
Also you will have to play tech support no matter what if you set them up
Or you will need help and ask questions and people will assume you are “lazy asking” and be toxic just because you are a beginner and don’t know stuff. Recently I’ve lost count on how many projects I joined some kind of communication space like Discord and left as soon as I saw how awful people can be when they want to gatekeep
I don’t like helping non-tech people because they don’t want to learn. They just want it fixed. I understand the mindset and I’m that same way on other things. But I don’t want to be their “tech guy”.
I do like helping in the FOSS community though because people generally do want to learn.
If I had you as a sibling I would use a lot more foss stuff then lol.
Yeah, and that is their opinion, which is as valid as yours.
They are the ones who will have to use the software day in and out, they should be the ones to decide which software they use.
okay but you still don’t get to act like i’m saying “just buy a house!”
@morrowind funny to find this here when I wrote my reply just a while ago:
“It’s like talking to someone who is in a crappy apartment as though they have the agency and skills to stake out a plot of land and build their own home.”
Maybe if you’re suggesting them to install Linux From Scratch, then yes, it is.
If you’re suggesting them them to install any of the many very simple (and very usable OOTB) distros like Fedora, then it’s not.
In that case it’s like the house is free, already built and furnitured, and right next to their own; but they have to move their personal belongings from one house to the other and learn a different room layout.
Sure, they still have the right to complain about how their landlord treats them like crap. But they sound pretty damn stupid if they do so while having an available free house right next door, and refusing to move because they don’t want to learn a new room layout.
It’s somewhere in between, you’re not building your own software, but oss software does usually tend to need more work. It’s like telling someone with a shitty landlord to move to a new house which they get to own, but it has no paint, or lighting, or flooring and they have to move their furniture and learn a different layout
Or even, just move to my building that has a much better landlord, but it’s a 5 storey walkup.
Some folks will be able to use that no issue, some folks might bitch but be happy in the end, and for some folks it’d be a nigh impossibility to do so.
And all of that, provided the house they have to be in, is within their control.
And If it doesn’t require more work, it requires different work. The beast you know is easier and more comfortable to understand than the beast you don’t know, even if it would be more beneficial to learn to deal with the newcomer.
It’s like telling someone with a shitty landlord to move to a new free house which they get to own
How many times have you setup Fedora or any other Linux distribution and have every single thing working from the get go?
I’m talking drivers, audio, networking, libraries, DNF, repositories, plugins, runtime dependencies, …
- That house isn’t furnished.
And don’t forget, plenty of popular software isn’t even compatible. Meaning you got to use alternative software that doesn’t always do what you want it to do.
- So buy a new couch, cause that one isn’t getting in.
How many times have you setup Fedora or any other Linux distribution and have every single thing working from the get go?
“Every”
I think you are talking about the situation that might be true 15 years ago, vut right now you’ll be hardpressed to find anything that doesn’t work out of the box on any modern distribution. I don’t know what plugins and dependancies don’t work on your machine, but I assure you it’s not a universal experience, far from it.
Also, most of the software that you use on Linux is free, so you don’t “buy” new couch if your old is built specifically for your old house, you learn to sit on any of the new ones that you can get for free at any momentDraugerOS wouldnt even boot from the thumb drive for me. Garuda sort of worked, the live boot was damn near perfect, from a stability and basic performance perspective, but after a basic install there were some annoying artifacts like a block behind the cursor on some windows, steams store page would flash rapidly and performance was trash in any game even on low settings. A Logitech mouse scroll wheel was hit or miss working. I mean like you spin the wheel and while the wheel was free spinning the browser would start and stop responding to it. 8 hours of messing with kernels, drivers, and settings it I threw in the towel. Not worth the effort to just get it to run normally let alone
Arch was similarly poor performance. Mint was also poor performance. Im not a fan of the PopOS style, but it actually ran great on my machine so, I’ll take it.
Point being, I tried 4 different distros before finding one that worked mostly well out of box.
Edit: wrong name for draugeros
Where the fuck have you found whatever weird esoteric distribs you are talking about, and why on earth did you went with those? Depending on the answer to the question, I kind of understand how you managed to make Arch “perform poorly” whatever that means in that regard, you need to have at least basic understanding to use Arch (or treat it as an opportunity to learn).
But you don’t start your experiments with something from third page of Google, at that point you’re an alpha tester.Google best gaming Linux distros. DraugerOS, Garuda, and popos are all prominent distros focused on gaming.
DraugerOS is Ubuntu LTS based.
Mint, not gaming focused, has been around for ages and is Ubuntu based. I’ve used it previously on older hardware with no issue. Just apparently doesn’t like newer hardware.
Garuda is arch based, probably why it was such a pain.
Popos is Ubuntu based as well.
I’ve also tried KDE plasma, ubuntu based, and man was that slow as hell. Works great on some hardware not on the hardware I tried.
I’ve installed Ubuntu in the past and had WiFi driver issues.
You mentioned any modern distros should work out of the box. The only one listed that mostly worked out of the box with semi reasonable performance was popos.
if someone is looking to install a distros to play games, theyll probably google “Linux for gaming” install one of the prominent distros listed above geared toward gaming then bang their head against the wall and quit.
We may understand arch is a full time job, but when Joe from sales builds a new gaming rig and took someone’s advice to install Linux and save money he doesn’t know all Linux distros are not created equally. Maybe he gets garuda or draugeros and bangs his head against the wall then goes back to windows.
There are a million different distros and yes some of the major ones work fine, but not always and if you run into issues it can be exponentially harder to fix the issue especially if you have no IT experience. Making it even worse is toxicity in forums or other support places where people treat you like you should know better because they have of knowledge of Linux and forget that we all have different levels of experience, many people have no experience.
I say this over and over again, but I’m going to say it again. I disagree firmly with the second point because there is such a lead and usability and ease of use for popular commercial software such as Microsoft office and Adobe software. It’s available in so many languages, it has so much functionality, and yes, both surpass FOSS solutions by a wide margin in functionality.
If you don’t need Excel, I think Linux and libre office might work fine for a lot of people, but there are still gaps in usability and accessibility. I don’t really see the same for anything Adobe does in the Linux space however.
Linux is like 90% of the way there, but these are people with jobs and families and shit. You can’t expect them to spend time having to overextend themselves with technology.
I wasn’t saying that we have everything available for Linux. Not yet, anyway. I was saying that whatever we have there is usually free and very customisable.
People committing from Windows and especially Mac infrastructure think that since they spent hundreds of dollars on software they use, they will have to do that again if they will swith to Linux. For a lot of people the thought of free software just never crossing the mind
How many times have you setup Fedora or any other Linux distribution and have every single thing working from the get go?
I’m talking drivers, audio, networking, libraries, DNF, repositories, plugins, runtime dependencies, …
Is proprietary software any easier than that though? Don’t you have to put in much more time removing all the spyware and bloat they put in and then spend all your time perpetually fighting against forced updates and applications being installed without your permission?
Whereas with Fedora my experience is more or less install it and forget it.
The “it’s easier” argument for proprietary software I think died at least 15 years ago.
Choice of applications is a different argument.
That is the thing, the software will function even with all the spyware and bloat.
Doesn’t bother a non-tech person.
Or could it be that it might bother them but they just keep quiet and put up with it, assume that it’s part of owning a computer and feel powerless to change anything?
Is proprietary software any easier than that though?
Yes, take nvidia drivers for example, on windows I just download the installer and run it and done.
Last time I tried to move to Linux desktop (attempted Fedora and then EndeavourOS) about a year ago, none of that worked properly. Installing drivers was not in any way straightforward, needing CLI commands and google, where every guide I found seemed to have a different method used to install them, I kept getting outdated ones, and I had no idea what I was doing.
At the end of all that I still didn’t have HW acceleration in my browsers, my desktop had screen tearing, gsync didn’t work properly in windowed apps, the GPU wouldn’t downclock fully at idle like it’s supposed to, I couldn’t figure out how to get shadowplay working, and so on.
And yes I do know this is technically mostly nvidia’s fault for not having as good quality of drivers on linux. But as an end user all I care about is that my stuff works properly without googling things, needing the CLI, and spending a lot of time on it.
Don’t you have to put in much more time removing all the spyware and bloat they put in and then spend all your time perpetually fighting against forced updates and applications being installed without your permission?
Definitely not, I don’t really spend much time at all. I haven’t experienced forced updates, my apps just update through winget manually when I want to. There are a few extra apps I don’t need on windows but those take a minute to remove, I can’t say I’ve ever experienced an app being installed without my permission other than edge I guess, but that replaces IE for embedded browser stuff so it’s kind of needed.
Most of my ‘admin’ time is spent on the opensource apps I use, generally on my self hosted stuff. But also just on basic things like backup software, Veeam is my primary backup which is basically a 1 minute set up with a few clicks through the GUI, but I’ve been trying out Restic too which requires writing my own scripts to handle backups, more scripts to handle pruning and such, manually installing them as services so they run properly, and writing my own notification system on top of that just to get an email if something goes wrong.
Opensource is great, but it’s usually extremely time intensive to get the same results, with lots of documentation, google, and just wasted time trying to figure out the basics.
Admittedly I do have the bias of experience which could blind me to the difficulties, when I phrased my first two sentences as questions they were genuine questions. Between work and personal life I must’ve installed Linux in some form at least 200 times over the last 20 years, so I’m not most users.
I’ve also not used Windows in many years, the last I think was when I had to use Windows 7 for work about 10 years ago and I found it extremely difficult to get it to do what I want. If it’s improved then it’s improved.
On the other hand a novice user can ask somebody to install Linux for them, what about that? That’s what my non-techy parents have done, and it’s easier for them to use Linux (they say so) and easier for me to provide technical support for them.
Also yes, avoid Nvidia.
Yes we do get sort of blind to what the average non-tech person wants out of their computer, I certainly have plenty of Linux experience on servers, but that just doesn’t seem to translate across to being able to easily troubleshoot desktop Linux issues. I think because a server is a ‘set up once’ type thing, whereas running linux on my desktop feels like a constant battle with installing programs, and driver updates or new versions of a game breaking things.
IMO windows has vastly improved since W7. I can’t even remember the last time I had to troubleshoot a game or program not working properly. I have W11 on 3 PCs and it’s been extremely stable, almost every program other than games is installed via the winget package manager which also handles updates, and it doesn’t get that ‘windows slows down over time’ feeling that used to happen on 7, vista, etc… Obviously there’s some bloat to remove when you first install it, and a few annoying settings to change, but that’s not that big of a deal to me and I spend just as much time on a fresh linux install getting things how I want them.
As far as the GPU choice, right now nvidia just makes a better GPU IMO, with their DLSS and frame-gen that AMD so far can’t compete with. Shadowplay also works a lot more reliably than ReLive in my experience. I briefly had an RX 6700XT for a few weeks before returning it due to driver/software issues.
I spend enough time fixing IT things at work and on my selfhosted server stuff, I just want to get home, hit the power button on my PC and play some games or work on some code for a project without anything getting in the way.
Yep, got the same experience as you. Not with nvidia drivers bit my huawei laptop had a broken audio driver where only half of the speakers worked… Unless you plugges in a headphone… Then the headphone and the other half of the speakers worked… All in all, it took me at least a da to get that working
Also, still no fingerprint support…
You can do a lot with opensource and tailor it to your need, but you have to invest a lot of time… And that’s what a lot of people don’t have
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With 0 experience with linux i installed nobara without any problems. I didnt need to install anything else(edit: excluding the software you can install in the “welcome” app), to change something in the settings etc
The only “hard” thing i had to do was to disable secure boot in the BIOS
Isn’t the point that you don’t have a choice to just buy a house, because there are obstacles that prevent it. In the same way, I don’t have a choice to use Linux or whatever other foss alternative to the stuff I use daily because my laptop is owned by the company I work for and their policies dictate that it runs windows etc.
Well. And maybe the new house doesn’t support their bed.
i mean yeah but they can just dual boot to metaphorically keep the old house too
Or you can just keep your old house where everything works, and the only annoying thing is the landlord.
Just gotta figure out if you’re ok with your landlord reading your diary.
Most people are completely fine with it.
sleeping and living in different houses, with your original house able to “accidentally” blow up your new one at any point.
It’s more like telling someone “Why don’t you just build your own house?”
That was true in 2000. The situation had improved a lot by, like, 2005, but it was still pretty rough. You were still likely to have to drop to a console at some point even in 2010.
These days there’s 20 distributions that are easier to install, use, and maintain than Windows, and you don’t even have to know
lsto use it.That is great!
And how many of those work out of the box on every type of hardware including new laptops without having to look up compatibility?
I’ve installed Linux on at least 20 laptops & desktops in the past decade, many for first-time users. I generally go with Mint or ElementaryOS for newbies. I can’t remember ever having a compatibility issue. I’m sure they still happen sometimes, but when people talk about it they act like it’s still 2005.
No operating system meets those criteria, open source or commercial.
brb recompiling my porch
Recompiling my foundation and hoping it still holds the house up when I’m done.
Who is this and why should we care about his opinion?
He’s a very good YouTuber who seems to have a side-gig shitting all over the Fedi, fedizens, and generally anyone who holds a different opinion.
Maybe if fedizens would stop trying to convert everone to their tech stack they would be less obnoxious.
Maybe he could be less obnoxious by just leaving?
And this is the reasons why the fediverse has such a hard time reaching mainstream adoption. Because people like you can’t let others live their life. Maybe people don’t want to spend time to switch to linux.
The Fediverse has no intent of reaching mainstream adoption.
If the way you “live your life” is by being a toxic asshole, you’re gonna have a hard time no matter where you go.
My view is that snark attracts snark. I love this guy’s videos and how thorough he is in his research and his occasional snide humor is fine, sometimes getting the YouTube comments in a frenzy.
On Mastodon it’s harder because that kind of take invites a bunch of replies back, which regardless of how right or wrong you are, engaging in 20 arguments consecutively gets annoying. And being snarky about FOSS stuff on Mastodon stokes massive flamewars if not put under control or not being level-headed.
Being snarky is fine. Turning around and complaining about “harassment” from people after you posted a shit take is not.
Having as many followers as he does on the fediverse right now is difficult. There aren’t any tools or options to reduce the flood of notifications you get or do do any sort of sane filtering (especially on mastodon) so i totally understand why he often reacts the way he does. You cant feasibly block or de-federate when your reach is so large.
He’s a pretty awesome educational YouTuber but this is a dumb take. To be fair, he’s not a programmer or software guy. I believe his background is in engineering.
Even without being a programmer, associating Free Software with a MASSIVE purchase is bonkers.
It does require a massive amount of time
I know a lot of people (even people who work in IT) who automatically assume free=shitty. It’s hard to appreciate just how effective and influential FOSS has been as a business model unless you are immersed in the world of software.
Classic example of judging a book by it’s cover I guess. The fact big tech is embracing open source software more and more, you’d think this assessment should no longer be the case.
Valid question. After reading his opinions, why would anyone follow his mastodon?
If he’s a good YouTuber, it’s like following a footballer who has shit opinions. I’ll watch you play football, but screw following your nonsense stream of consciousness.
Normally, I would reply to the guy, because, you know, he’s a human being, but there’s so many replies, I doubt, he can actually read all of them and potentially someone else has already made that point.
Anyways, I feel like something he kind of misses here is that many of us do it from a heartfelt place. Like, we’re all techies. We’ve all used commercial software to a point where we’ve grown so frustrated with it that we decided it is a waste of time.
So, it’s not us saying “Why don’t you go and just have more time/money?”.
Rather, it’s us saying “This thing is wasting your time? Here is a solution that I felt wasted less time in the long run.”.Yes, sometimes that does miss the mark, because not every complaint is looking for a solution. Or because we may be frustrated with restrictions of commercial software, which are not a problem for less techy people. Or even because we’re embedded in this tech world and are hoping to make it a better place, which someone just quickly visiting may not care about.
But other times, I do just happen to know a lot about technology and a non-techy genuinely did not know about the solution I suggested and is actually really appreciative of me bringing it up. It does happen. And it’s not easy to discern who would appreciate a suggestion and who won’t.
I actually did jump into the replies and went back and forth with him a bit and I do think he (finally) understood the FOSS perspective. I think a lot of people get very hung up on this concept of a customer-product relationship and for some people it’s a very hard mindset to break out of. I often forget that while “FOSS” is software, the “free software movement” is not really about software, it’s political.
The political aspect is especially true. The FOSS confusion is often similar to the communism confusion, especially when it comes to small-scale things.
Take the concept of a neighborhood garden that no one is expected to pay money into, for instance. “Wait, so the people here who like gardening don’t expect me to pay or provide labor unless I’m able to? What do you mean i should take only according to my needs? What about Jimothy, he never helps but he takes way more than I do! What do you mean Jimothy contributes as he is able or in other ways? How can i trust everyone to be fair?”
Take the money for goods/services exchange out of the equation and it can really throw people off.
If buying an house was free, you can be sure I would definitely tell that to every fucking anyone.
is exactly like saying “why don’t you just buy a house?” to someone complaining about their landlord.
What an idiotic comparison.
Buying a house costs so much money and time that most people cannot afford to, and those who can generally must go into debt for most of their remaining lives in order to do so. Suggesting FOSS to replace “whatever commercial software they use” is the polar opposite, in that it’s literally free (usually in both senses of the word). It’s more like suggesting that someone consider a new route to commute from home to work.
Also, this opening…
Okay, all you open source evangelist people: your knee-jerk reaction to come at people
…is incredibly reductive and combative. The world needs less of that, not more.
The cost isn’t the software, it’s the time, energy and risk involved in using it.
The combativeness was deployed to fight off combativeness.
Buying a house costs so much money and time that most people … Suggesting FOSS to replace “whatever commercial software they use” is the polar opposite, in that it’s literally free
Suggesting people ‘just’ buy a house is unhelpful, because it assumes they have enough money to do so.
Suggesting people ‘just’ use FOSS is often unhelpful, because it assumes they have sufficient computer abilities and/or have the time to learn how.
Some kid who’s just started writing his thesis and enjoys fiddling with stuff? Sure, recommend LaTex.
Some overstretched parent of two, who gets home at 8 and just needs to edit a powerpoint for a presentation at the end of the week? No, suggesting they install a piece of software, something they’ve never done before, and learn to use this piece of software they’ve never used, to finish something that needs to be done by the end of the night, and that they’re almost certainly going to be using in an office (ie. windows/office) environment? Not helpful.
“Suggesting people ‘just’ use FOSS is often unhelpful, because it assumes they have sufficient computer abilities and/or have the time to learn how.”
I mean, it took my parents in law 10 minutes to learn and they’re almost 80. Realistically, if you’re using a computer, you have sufficient computer abilities and time to learn Linux.
If they are almost 80, they have plenty of time on their hands.
Thank you for proving their point.
And no, it didn’t took them 10 minutes to learn a whole new OS, that is just dishonest.
some people don’t know about FOSS alternatives, i dob’t think i need a PHD in computer science to idk try kdenlive intead of sony vegas
The difference here is mountains vs. molehills.
And in most cases, they obviously do have sufficient ability to learn how, because they were able to learn the commercial software they’re currently using.
As for time, yes, learning always takes time. (Thus my comparison to learning a new commute.) But suggesting that someone learn something new is not stupid or unreasonable, especially if the thing they currently use is not serving them well.
- In response to that paragraph you added after I replied:
I don’t know why you would think that cherry-picked and extremely specific scenario is somehow representative of the general subject we’re discussing. Of course situations exist where learning alternative software isn’t the best answer. That doesn’t make it wrong for people to suggest the alternatives. Quite often, they’re perfectly viable, and it’s perfectly reasonable to try to help by making someone aware of them.
You should just learn Chinese.
You have a sufficient ability to learn Chinese, you learnt how to speak the language you’re currently using.
Learning takes time, but me suggesting you ‘just’ learn Chinese isn’t stupid or unreasonable, especially as your inability to speak Chinese is limiting your audience and career opportunities, and not serving you well.
You should just learn Chinese.
That’s disingenuous. I wasn’t complaining about English not serving me well, now was I?
Also, once again, mountains vs. molehills.
English isn’t serving you well. You should learn Chinese.
Are you having a problem learning Chinese? You chose Cantonese? Wrong dialect. Should be learning Mandarin, that will solve your issue.
What an idiotic comparison.
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…is incredibly reductive and combative. The world needs less of that, not more.
Be the change, homie.
In any case, do recall that many of us are in enterprise environments where we’re not the only decision makers. Plus, FOSS without reliable support contracts isn’t workable for many use cases. If something in FOSS goes tits up none of my customers will be satisfied with the great discussion I had with the devs about it and how they’ll totally get to it after Furrycon.
You might not be paying for software in money but you’re going to pay for it, one way or another.
Be the change, homie.
When someone claims two obviously different things are exactly the same, pointing out that the comparison is idiotic is not combative, homie.
Edit: More to the point, defending one’s community by pointing out the idiocy of an attack is not combative.
You might not be paying for software in money but you’re going to pay for it, one way or another.
Indeed. As I hinted in my comment, and stated more clearly in another one.
Cool, I’ma go tell my wife something we disagree on is idiotic and we’ll see how it goes. Should be fine, right? It’s not combative!
Did your wife go on social media to pick a fight by stereotyping and publicly scolding a large community of people, and justify it with an obviously false claim? I hope not, but if so, then I wish you the best of luck working through that together.
That’s use FreeLord the OSS landlord alternative
It really isn’t though.
A day or two or even a week to get the hang of something isn’t a 40-year mortgage
Open cad just isn’t the same though
yeah, freeCAD is kinda crappy compared to even F360
Does Fusion 360 have a free version?
meh, yes and no. typical auto desk shenanigans. free for personal use.
So is it free free, or is it free* for personal use?
As in, can I as an amateur use it with all the functions enabled for an unlimited time without spending money?
Because I can with FreeCAD.
Yep
Poor people don’t have time above all else. A lot of times they are working 2 jobs, sometimes with those jobs doing shady scheduling where you are essentially on call without being paid for being on call.
Also tons of people just aren’t as smart as you are at computer things. Guess what? If they were you wouldn’t be as cool as you are for being able to do it.
I’ve found everyone has something they can teach me, whether it’s how to be or how not to be.
A great way to use your talent would be to assemble the resources that made you good at something and post it online so others can be lifted up by your knowledge.
Everyone in this entire world’s life is at minimum as complex and nuanced as your own. It’s kinda rough to assume laziness of people you don’t know well.
I’ve been up and down, and I ain’t better than anyone on here, I’m just trying to add a little of my perspective.
Ahhh… i suck at computers. Nowadays anyway.
But FOSS generally has the tech nerd I wish I was going over it, finding and squawking loudly about vulnerabilities, instead of quietly writing backdoors in.
No, it’s not as stable and easy out of the box, but it’s less likely to turn you into ICE because your name is half mexican
This is actually my argument for general consumer AI access. That person you’re describing already wouldn’t be able to pay an artist for a commission, but they can take 15 minutes to generate some images that make them happy. People deserve anything we can get that brings us joy in this time sensitive world.
This feels like gossip and I wish that Lemmy would let me mark this post as hidden.
Mastodon, like Twitter is a gossip platform, as far as I can tell. Too bad you can’t filter out screenshots of other social media posts en masse.
He’s still being a dick about this?? Thought he’d chilled out a bit but now he’s lost all damn sense about the matter. Maybe he’s at least gotten past insulting all Linux users in his videos and will be keeping this crap to a somewhat more appropriate environment.
I and a few other people kinda chatted with him a while and the reality kinda seemed to click with him? He was very stuck on “it is a product and I am the customer” mindset that is very ingrained into so many people. He said filing a bug report felt “dehumanizing” and we tried to illustrate that it can actually feel empowering if you view yourself as a collaborator, not a customer. I think he’s coming around.
At least I hope he is because (opinion on FOSS aside) he really is one of the all-time best creators on YouTube right now.
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Not to buy a house but to get a house for free?
In this thread, everyone getting caught up on the first toot and not the second where he clarifies his point.
If you step past the initial investment of buying a house, the analogy makes perfect sense. When you rent an apartment, your landlord (the provider) takes care of all the maintenance; you just live there and you get what you get. When you own a home, you take care of all of the maintenance, but you get to set the place up however you like. This isn’t that different from a lot of FOSS out there.
So why didn’t he include the second part in the first post? Almost send like he WANTS people to misunderstand. I can’t understand why he’s even on fedi when all he ever does is try to stir the pot
Doesn’t Mastodon have only 300 characters like old Twitter?
your landlord (the provider) takes care of all the maintenance
this is a dirty lie :P
In this thread, everyone getting caught up on the first toot and not the second where he clarifies his point.
To be fair, the second part is not included in the image.
Lemmy doesn’t allow for multiple images as far as I’m aware, so I did the next best thing: put it in the description
Not saying I blame you; you’re bound by the limitations/restrictions of the platform.
I’m just saying it’s not as obvious and so others may not have noticed it. :)
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